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dirtdevil
April 29, 2010 at 01:01PM View BBCode
remember when you said you weren't ever going to respond to another of my posts? like 11 times? me too.
thatrogue
*Read: continued to doctor/scuff baseballs without getting caught.
April 29, 2010 at 01:27PM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
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I love Nolan as much as anybody, but ummmm... done wonders?
Compared to what? Dumass Tom House?
They were 8th in ERA in 2009, and 6th this year.
I'm not being contentious here, but what exactly are these wonders?
Ryan was a conditioning nut, still is, and I imagine instilling discipline in a staff to stay in shape is a good thing. He always said Mike Scott could have been a great pitcher, longer, had he stayed in shape.*
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*Read: continued to doctor/scuff baseballs without getting caught.
thatrogue
Just got through the whole thread...
April 29, 2010 at 01:41PM View BBCode
As a reminder, this is the Sports Talk forum, not the OGL. Some relatively interesting baseball discussion just got derailed by the last two pages, and that didn't need to happen.
tm4559
We see your Mike scott, Nolan ryan, and Scuffed Balls, and raise you Doc Gooden, Len Dykstra, Gary Carter, Keith Hernadez, Mookie, The Straw, and mojo.
April 29, 2010 at 01:43PM View BBCode
mets to the astros:We see your Mike scott, Nolan ryan, and Scuffed Balls, and raise you Doc Gooden, Len Dykstra, Gary Carter, Keith Hernadez, Mookie, The Straw, and mojo.
khazim
The big question is where does Gonzo end up batting by year's end? He's okay as a lead-off hitter but as a #5, he's been really good. Depending upon how the power numbers start coming in, I could see either a 3,4,5 of Helton, Gonzo, and Tulo or Helton, Tulo, Gonzo.
There are also starting to be tiny rumblings of Hawpe trade rumors. This happens whenever he misses significant time, however.
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In an odd way, thsi is a successful April for the Rockies. Playing basically .500 ball considering we have been without the services of Jeff Francis, Huston Street (we've really missed him), Brad Hawpe, Carlos Gonzalez, and Jason Hammel for portions to the entirety of the month.
The big question is where does Gonzo end up batting by year's end? He's okay as a lead-off hitter but as a #5, he's been really good. Depending upon how the power numbers start coming in, I could see either a 3,4,5 of Helton, Gonzo, and Tulo or Helton, Tulo, Gonzo.
There are also starting to be tiny rumblings of Hawpe trade rumors. This happens whenever he misses significant time, however.
Tyles
Oh no you di'n't!
April 29, 2010 at 06:36PM View BBCode
Originally posted by thatrogue
As a reminder, this is the Sports Talk forum, not the OGL. Some relatively interesting baseball discussion just got derailed by the last two pages, and that didn't need to happen.
Oh no you di'n't!
dirtdevil
true enough. funny how it seemed to start rocketing downhill right about here though...
April 29, 2010 at 07:24PM View BBCode
Originally posted by thatrogue
As a reminder, this is the Sports Talk forum, not the OGL. Some relatively interesting baseball discussion just got derailed by the last two pages, and that didn't need to happen.
true enough. funny how it seemed to start rocketing downhill right about here though...
Originally posted by shep1582
that's easily the dumbest thing you've ever said, tyles.
and you've said many many dumb things.
tm4559
(i mean, we definitely used up some space on the rockies, for christ sake.)
April 29, 2010 at 07:31PM View BBCode
did we even get to talk about the astros yet? because the whole world is dying to discuss the astros.(i mean, we definitely used up some space on the rockies, for christ sake.)
dirtdevil
April 29, 2010 at 07:37PM View BBCode
until you mentioned it i wasn't aware that the astros still had a team, actually. does craig biggio still play for them?
tm4559
April 29, 2010 at 07:40PM View BBCode
they wheel his corpse out to second base, yes. it (the corpse) makes all the plays it (craig biggio) always did there. a few more errors.
spiderrtp
April 29, 2010 at 07:56PM View BBCode
Can Atlanta get a mulligan for the offseason of thinking that Troy Glaus and Melky Cabrera were the answers to the lack of offensive production and power...
khazim
The O's, however. The O is for, "Oy vey, this team really is this bad!"
The scary thing is the Dodgers are just as bad. I mean painfully bad.
April 29, 2010 at 08:09PM View BBCode
To be fair, the Astros have actually won games.The O's, however. The O is for, "Oy vey, this team really is this bad!"
The scary thing is the Dodgers are just as bad. I mean painfully bad.
albiez
[Edited on 5-1-2010 by albiez]
April 30, 2010 at 01:40AM View BBCode
The Orioles are fine. They are the team tanking it up while the OS22-25 things improve. Then they will be all ready to own third or fourth place for a good six year run. They're Daren, basically.[Edited on 5-1-2010 by albiez]
shep1582
April 30, 2010 at 10:16PM View BBCode
oh, dike, isn't there a rock you and your OGL cohorts can crawl back under?
happy
Oh no, I never said dont use pitch count, I just said let them pitch longer. You dont let the guy out there for 160 or 180 pitches or something crazy like that, but you can let him go to 140 when he is throwing a shut out or one run game against a division rival and he says he is feeling good still, and no veteran ever needs to be taken out before 120 pitches because of pitch count. This day in age, a guy who finishes an inning at 96 pitches gets taken out before the next inning starts because they dont even want him to break 100. Thats silly, and thats why teams have 7 relievers on them, which means the reliever quality goes down, which means that those back of the bullpen guys really shouldnt need to be there, and then you can have a deeper hitter bench, and then maybe you wont need to put your backup SS/2B/3Bman in at DH when your regular DH is taking a day off.
May 01, 2010 at 02:03PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
You're being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Yes, occasionally a coach go too far in the direction of yanking a pitcher early based on an arbitrary number, but the idea that we've gone so far that there needs to be some sort of pushback against pitch counts is just deeply, deeply reactionary (so it shouldn't be a surprise coming from you, I guess). This is the story you read every single year, "managers are babying pitchers, they can throw more pitches," some nonsense like that. Because the idea of pitch counts upset the natural order of things, and old men like Nolan Ryan take offense to it. And the worst thing in the world is to have a freak of nature like Ryan tell guys why they shouldn't worry about pitch counts. It's a truism of life - when something first begins to change, that's when the hardest push comes from those opposed to the change. A few teams instituted pitch counts and the old fuckers screamed bloody murder. The more and more teams adopt them, the less you hear from those old bastards.
[Edited on 4-28-2010 by FuriousGiorge]
Oh no, I never said dont use pitch count, I just said let them pitch longer. You dont let the guy out there for 160 or 180 pitches or something crazy like that, but you can let him go to 140 when he is throwing a shut out or one run game against a division rival and he says he is feeling good still, and no veteran ever needs to be taken out before 120 pitches because of pitch count. This day in age, a guy who finishes an inning at 96 pitches gets taken out before the next inning starts because they dont even want him to break 100. Thats silly, and thats why teams have 7 relievers on them, which means the reliever quality goes down, which means that those back of the bullpen guys really shouldnt need to be there, and then you can have a deeper hitter bench, and then maybe you wont need to put your backup SS/2B/3Bman in at DH when your regular DH is taking a day off.
dirtdevil
May 07, 2010 at 03:39PM View BBCode
saw a great weird stat on the blue jays last night. 1st in the AL in extra base hits, last in the AL in singles.
cubfan531
Jamie Moyer became the oldest man to ever throw a complete game shutout, Starlin Castro became the first player to record 6 RBIs in their major league debut.
May 08, 2010 at 04:42PM View BBCode
Here's what happened in baseball yesterday:Jamie Moyer became the oldest man to ever throw a complete game shutout, Starlin Castro became the first player to record 6 RBIs in their major league debut.
tm4559
May 09, 2010 at 12:34AM View BBCode
i think it is time to face the fact that is just can't be a conincidence all these amzing pitching feats happen against the braves. they can't hit. they just can't.
Tyles
May 09, 2010 at 12:36AM View BBCode
Jason Heyward is the tits, though. (Your wife's tits.) ((With the brown nipples.)) (((Wait that's my mom.)))
barterer2002
May 09, 2010 at 12:48AM View BBCode
Heyward didn't play nor did McCann. You thought the Braves offense was bad with those guys in it, without them they get two hit by Jamie Moyer (who is 2 home runs shy of becoming the second member of the 500 home run club)
tm4559
(yeah, tyles, watch it. they.....are.....spectacular though, truly).
May 09, 2010 at 12:52AM View BBCode
if he could go against the hayward-mccannless braves every time out, i guess he might not ever get there.(yeah, tyles, watch it. they.....are.....spectacular though, truly).
dirtdevil
to be fair, moyer is about 75 years old, so he's only given up 10 or so a season.
May 09, 2010 at 02:16AM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
Heyward didn't play nor did McCann. You thought the Braves offense was bad with those guys in it, without them they get two hit by Jamie Moyer (who is 2 home runs shy of becoming the second member of the 500 home run club)
to be fair, moyer is about 75 years old, so he's only given up 10 or so a season.
Jon
(At least Andrew McCutchen is also the tits.)
May 09, 2010 at 03:48AM View BBCode
God, I was so set on grabbing Heyward with my next pick before Tyles cockblocked me.(At least Andrew McCutchen is also the tits.)