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ME
william roger clemens unretires and signs with the astros on a one-year deal.
bad news for cubs fans
January 12, 2004 at 06:51PM View BBCode
but good news for astros fanswilliam roger clemens unretires and signs with the astros on a one-year deal.
Smocko
I say the Cubs and Astros could each win 95-100 games.
January 12, 2004 at 09:56PM View BBCode
Although I am a Yankee fan and sad to see him pitch for another team, I am very happy for Roger Clemens. It is just hard to imagine someone as crazy dedicated as this guy to enjoy sitting around until he absolutely has to.I say the Cubs and Astros could each win 95-100 games.
sycophantman
Now management knows they need to counter the moves the Astros are making.
How will they do it?
Greg Maddux returns to Chicago to finish his career and disspell the bad vibes his leaving in the first place caused.
I hope it works like that, what a great story that would be!
(yes, better than Roger 'everyone look at me! it's my last game! NOT!' Clemens signing with the Astros)
Can't wait to see Clemens lead the league in times being hit by pitches, though. :)
He's going to get brutalized...
January 12, 2004 at 10:08PM View BBCode
It could end up being good for the Cubs.Now management knows they need to counter the moves the Astros are making.
How will they do it?
Greg Maddux returns to Chicago to finish his career and disspell the bad vibes his leaving in the first place caused.
I hope it works like that, what a great story that would be!
(yes, better than Roger 'everyone look at me! it's my last game! NOT!' Clemens signing with the Astros)
Can't wait to see Clemens lead the league in times being hit by pitches, though. :)
He's going to get brutalized...
JulioF
Glavine looks in for the sign from Piazza... Piazza calls for a heater, and sets his glove behind Clemens' right ear... Glavine kicks and deals... THUD! :spin:
January 13, 2004 at 02:13AM View BBCode
... especially when playing the Mets! I can see it now:Glavine looks in for the sign from Piazza... Piazza calls for a heater, and sets his glove behind Clemens' right ear... Glavine kicks and deals... THUD! :spin:
happy
January 13, 2004 at 03:50AM View BBCode
No one would hit Clemens unless they want to be hit back.
sycophantman
Good luck to him though, surviving I mean :D
January 13, 2004 at 04:15AM View BBCode
Clemens is going to get hit a lot, and he's got it coming...Good luck to him though, surviving I mean :D
JulioF
:lol:
January 13, 2004 at 04:17AM View BBCode
uh... like... Clemens would never hit anyone, unless he wanted to be hit back.:lol:
ME
it used to be, you hit one of ours, we hit one of yours, now its hard to do that cause of the stupid warnings and ejections.
January 13, 2004 at 04:22AM View BBCode
bean ball wars are cool.it used to be, you hit one of ours, we hit one of yours, now its hard to do that cause of the stupid warnings and ejections.
sycophantman
January 13, 2004 at 02:06PM View formatted
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Clemens will probably come out with a news conference apology before the season for all the people he's beaned. It'll be a tearful thing, but he'll still get pummeled...
Schef33
January 13, 2004 at 02:56PM View BBCode
I wish he retired. As I watched his "last game" I thought of his career and was touched inside. He loses some creditbillity for losing that. I was never a fan of people who did their "last event" more than once. (cough cough* Barbara Streisand). Of ocurse I will still remain a Rocket fan and will try to catch his new "last game." Maybe the Yankees will tee off against him in the World Series
skierdude44
January 13, 2004 at 07:59PM View BBCode
he obviously can still pitch and i think that if he feels he can still pitch than go ahead. but i think that going out in the world series is one of the best ways to go out, the only thing better would be to win it. and how he wuz applauded in florida was really nice and i think that it does take something away from that. if at the end of last season as "im debating whether to retire," it would be fine. obviously he still has a shot to win the world series and go out on top with that astros but it isnt as good a chance as he would have with the yankees. and if he hadnt officially announced his retirement he may have ended up back with the yankees, which i would like. ill still be a fan of his too and if his last game is broadcast on a channel in my area i will watch it.
ME
January 13, 2004 at 08:04PM View BBCode
If he is good enough, and wants to still play, he should. Jordan did the same thing and it made watching the Wizards bearable (even though they didn't make the playoffs).
happy
Clemens is an asshole, screw him, i hope he gets injured and has to retire.
January 13, 2004 at 09:46PM View BBCode
but jordan retired and didnt think he was coming back. i think Clemens was thinking about the Astros the whole time.Clemens is an asshole, screw him, i hope he gets injured and has to retire.
sycophantman
I don't blame him at all, I'm a life-long Cubs fan first, but my second favorite team is the Astros. I lived in Houston half my life, so it will be a good year for me, two good teams to root for.
But when they play each other, I'm all Cubs....:)
January 14, 2004 at 01:56PM View BBCode
Nah, he probably really meant it when he said he was retiring. But then his best bud goes to Houston, his hometown, and then his family asks him to play so they could see him be the hometown hero, plus the Astros being a team with a chance...I don't blame him at all, I'm a life-long Cubs fan first, but my second favorite team is the Astros. I lived in Houston half my life, so it will be a good year for me, two good teams to root for.
But when they play each other, I'm all Cubs....:)
happy
some days i think he is a total asshole
some days i think he is awesome.
right now i think he is cool because he throws at people, and stuff.
i wish more people would throw at hitters, like in the old days, and these assholes would stop whining
i think the beanball is like the whole political correctness thing. before it was fine to hit someone, now it gets all personal, just like when you say a racist joke or somehting, next thing you know it is all personal.
January 14, 2004 at 07:56PM View BBCode
i actually go back and forth for clemens.some days i think he is a total asshole
some days i think he is awesome.
right now i think he is cool because he throws at people, and stuff.
i wish more people would throw at hitters, like in the old days, and these assholes would stop whining
i think the beanball is like the whole political correctness thing. before it was fine to hit someone, now it gets all personal, just like when you say a racist joke or somehting, next thing you know it is all personal.
skierdude44
January 15, 2004 at 12:16AM View BBCode
i think that it is fine for pitchers to hit guys as long as it is not intentionally for the head which i know clemens has been guilty of. i dont think that he wuz planning it the whole time i think pettitte had a big influence on it and his family did to. i heard they gave him an astros cap for christmas to persuade him to sign with them. it feels really weird talking about pettitte as an astro.
nextyearcubs
Meanwhile, the worst news for me, the Cubs fan? Is this going to provoke us into signing Maddux, who's 38 and not invinsible anymore, to be our #5 starter at 7 million per, making him the highest paid on our staff? I know Maddux would make us much better, but I hope that the Cubs won't overspend and not have the cash to be able to sign Wood to an extension, or upgrade at SS next year.
I just hope we don't make a bad move because we have to do something to counter the Astros. I love Maddux and would love to see him back in a Cubs uniform, I just don't want them to overpay and screw the future of this team up.
January 15, 2004 at 12:45AM View BBCode
I'm a Cubs fan, and I gotta admit, I'm not entirely worried about Houston. I mean, Clemens will be 42 next year, pitching in a new league, and maybe a little more hesitant to throw inside. This move is more PR than anything else, Clemens did sign a 10 year personal services deals as well. No doubt, Clemens could be great one more year, but I'm not so sure about that, he very well could struggle.Meanwhile, the worst news for me, the Cubs fan? Is this going to provoke us into signing Maddux, who's 38 and not invinsible anymore, to be our #5 starter at 7 million per, making him the highest paid on our staff? I know Maddux would make us much better, but I hope that the Cubs won't overspend and not have the cash to be able to sign Wood to an extension, or upgrade at SS next year.
I just hope we don't make a bad move because we have to do something to counter the Astros. I love Maddux and would love to see him back in a Cubs uniform, I just don't want them to overpay and screw the future of this team up.
sycophantman
January 15, 2004 at 04:29AM View BBCode
That is the most important thing. You can tell the Cubs are scrambling to answer this new move by Houston, but I hope that Maddux isn't the only move they make. It would be great, I'm a big fan of Maddux, but they need to worry about more than that. They have a team with a MUCH brighter future than the Astors, so they better not blow it!
ME
a move even dumber would be for the mets to sign maddux. that would give them 3 35+ year old pitchers on a team that will finish no higher than 3rd in the NL East (and that's only if they play really well and one of the top 3 teams gets hit hard by injuries). realistically, they could even finish behind the expos for the 3rd straight year.
January 15, 2004 at 10:05PM View BBCode
signing greg maddux would be pretty dumb for the cubs. if they have money available they should put it all towards getting pudge, since now they have a shitty catcher. or as someone said save that money to resign people next year.a move even dumber would be for the mets to sign maddux. that would give them 3 35+ year old pitchers on a team that will finish no higher than 3rd in the NL East (and that's only if they play really well and one of the top 3 teams gets hit hard by injuries). realistically, they could even finish behind the expos for the 3rd straight year.
sycophantman
January 16, 2004 at 02:22PM View BBCode
Nah, let Pudge go to the Tigers like they're saying he might. He's a pretty greedy player, he only wants the money. He never thought he was going to win in Florida, they were the only team dumb enough to get suckered by Scott Boras.
Bengals
January 16, 2004 at 10:17PM View BBCode
I'm not a fan of the Yanks or the Astros (go Reds), but after doing all the retirement jazz, I'm sad to see him back. He could have retired in his glory. Oh well. :(
fana28
January 16, 2004 at 10:25PM View BBCode
How old is the guy? 39 or something? And he already pitched 20 W seasons for Boston, Toronto, NY and now Houston? Just overwarming!!!
happy
anyway, the cubs should sign Maddux for 1 year for the same reason i think the orioles should. Maddux is a veteran pitcher, and the Cubs staff is all young guys. A veteran in the staff could teach them a thing or two. and then after the end of the season, you could resign him, or not resign him or whatever.
January 19, 2004 at 11:08PM View BBCode
he will NOT pitch a 20 win season for Houston.anyway, the cubs should sign Maddux for 1 year for the same reason i think the orioles should. Maddux is a veteran pitcher, and the Cubs staff is all young guys. A veteran in the staff could teach them a thing or two. and then after the end of the season, you could resign him, or not resign him or whatever.
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