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CaseyStengel

Proposed Rule Change

December 02, 2008 at 05:24AM View BBCode

[size=4]Current [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/oldforum-viewthread.jsp?tid=30287]Orlando Cepeda League Rule[/url] No. 17[/size]
    Teams must carry at least 2 catchers on their major league roster at all times. [color=red]This means that when one looks at the Depth Chart, there are 2 catchers listed.[/color] Catchers on the DL or Resting are not considered on the major league roster.

[size=3]Rational for Rule 17[/size]: The Catcher Rule was made in April 2004 to insure that teams carried at least 2 catchers on their ML rosters. It was possible in 2004 for any player to catch even if they had zero skills as a catcher.

[size=3]Changes Programmed by Tyson[/size]: A couple of years later, Tyson reprogrammed Sim Dynasty that prevented anyone playing the catcher position unless they had 50% or better skills as a catcher. In addition, Tyson programmed the system to prevent an owner from setting their lineup unless they had at least 2 catchers on their roster with 50% or better skills.

[size=3]OCL Catcher Rule Violation Issue[/size]: Under the current OCL rules, a team is in violation if they do not have 2 catchers with 100% skill as catcher. Often it meant that a team was in violation when they played their catcher in a different position and that player's primary role changed from catcher to another position. It seems that every other season or so, one or more teams would be in violation and would require Commissioner (me) intervention to bring the teams back to compliance.

[size=3]Proposed Change:[/size] [size=4][color=red]Get rid of Rule 17.[/color][/size] The OCL Catcher Rule is now programmed into Sim Dynasty. All teams must have at least 2 catchers on their major league roster with 50% or better skills to be able to adjust their lineup, make roster changes, or control their team. Rule 17 is redundant in my opinion.

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Discuss this proposed rule change in your Division forum. We will implement this rule change if the majority of owners agree with the change.
nimzovich

December 02, 2008 at 02:02PM View formatted

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How recent was this adjustment? My primary catcher, Larvell Cree, played 3B enough to turn into a 3B about three seasons ago and I had to be advised that it happened as I was in violation of the rule. It took about a quarter of a season to play him back into being a C again. I like, from an aesthetic perspective, whatever we can do to compel people to play real baseball. There are a lot of Bill Veecks around here who would play a team full of midgets if they could, and there are rules that are somewhat arbitrary (like the name change rule). So I don't know what I vote for, yet. I will keep looking at the thread. I like two catchers, but I don't need redundancy.
pockets

December 04, 2008 at 12:22AM View BBCode

Cool with me ...
CaseyStengel

As of Wednesday, December 3

December 04, 2008 at 03:42AM View BBCode

Division: Majors
    Delete Rule: 6
    Ambivalent: 1
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 9
Division: AAA
    Delete Rule: 4
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 12
Division: AA
    Delete Rule: 4
    Keep Rule: 1
    No Response: 11
Division: A
    Delete Rule: 4
    Keep Rule: 1 - if there is a reminder and penalty
    No Response: 11

Comment: No clear majority to change rule with 43 owners not posting their opinion yet.

Please comment in your division (not in this post) ... I will update totals periodically.
Radium55

December 04, 2008 at 11:44PM View BBCode

I vote to DELETE rule 17.
ugliest

December 05, 2008 at 12:58AM View BBCode

Its ok with me if its deleted.
CaseyStengel

As of Saturday, December 3

December 06, 2008 at 04:06PM View BBCode

Division: Majors
    Delete Rule: 7
    Ambivalent: 1
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 8
Division: AAA
    Delete Rule: 10
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 6
Division: AA
    Delete Rule: 6
    Keep Rule: 1
    No Response: 9
Division: A
    Delete Rule: 6
    Keep Rule: 3
    No Opinion: 1
    No Response: 6
GRAND TOTAL
    Delete Rule: 29
    Keep Rule: 4
    No Opinion: 2
    No Response: 29

Comment: Over 50% of OCL owners have voiced their opinions. However the issue is still on the table until there are at least 35 owners stating they would like to see the rule changed.

Please comment in your division (not in this post) ... I will update totals periodically.

COMMENTS POSTED ON THIS MESSAGE THREAD ARE NOT COUNTED. Ugliest - post your comment in your division.
RichNYC1

December 06, 2008 at 05:00PM View BBCode

I vote delete rule 17
thefixx27

December 06, 2008 at 06:09PM View BBCode

Change the rule...bringing up C+ catchers or picking up guys off the WW just to be in compliance is annoying.
Dogbelly

December 08, 2008 at 11:36AM View BBCode

Delete it
CaseyStengel

As of Thursday, December 11...

December 12, 2008 at 12:51AM View BBCode

Division: Majors
    Delete Rule: 8
    Ambivalent: 1
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 7
Division: AAA
    Delete Rule: 11
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 5
Division: AA
    Delete Rule: 8
    Keep Rule: 2
    No Response: 6
Division: A
    Delete Rule: 6
    Keep Rule: 3
    No Opinion: 1
    No Response: 6
GRAND TOTAL
    Delete Rule: 33
    Keep Rule: 5
    No Opinion: 2
    No Response: 24

Comment: Over 50% of OCL owners have voiced their opinions. However the issue is still on the table until there are at least 35 owners stating they would like to see the rule changed.

Please comment in your division (not in this post) ... I will update totals periodically.

[color=red]COMMENTS POSTED ON THIS MESSAGE THREAD ARE NOT COUNTED. Dogbelly, Ugliest, thefixx27, and RichNYC1 - post your comment in your division.[/color]

[Edited on 12-12-2008 by CaseyStengel]
CaseyStengel

As of Tuesday, December 16...

December 16, 2008 at 07:25PM View BBCode

Division: Majors
    Delete Rule: 8
    Ambivalent: 1
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 7
Division: AAA
    Delete Rule: 13
    Keep Rule: 0
    No Response: 3
Division: AA
    Delete Rule: 8
    Keep Rule: 2
    No Response: 6
Division: A
    Delete Rule: 8
    Keep Rule: 3
    No Opinion: 1
    No Response: 4
GRAND TOTAL
    Delete Rule: 37 = 58%
    Keep Rule: 5 = 8%
    No Opinion: 2 = 3%
    No Response: 20 = 31%
    Total Voted = 69%

Comment: Over 66.7% (2/3) of OCL owners have voiced their opinions. Of those voting, 89% have voted to delete the rule. Therefore:

[color=red]OCL CATCHER RULE (Rule 17) HAS BEEN DELETED. Teams must now field at least 2 catchers with 50% skill level or better on their major league roster.[/color]

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