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skierdude44
funniest pro athlete
March 06, 2004 at 03:31AM View BBCode
im gonna say its yogi berra. he said some pretty funny things. mostly because they make no sense. for example when he moved to the outfield during the end of his career he said "boy it gets late out here early." refering to the shadows in the outfield. another great quote is "nobody goes there anymore because its too crowded."
sycophantman
March 06, 2004 at 03:42AM View BBCode
David Cone was right up there, what a goofball...
hobos
A nickel aint woth a dime anymore
The other team could make trouble for us if they win
It's never happened in World Series history, and it hasnt happened since
It's deja vu all over again
It was hard to have a conversation with anyone, there were too many people talking
If the world were perfect, it wouldnt be
I usually take a 2 hour nap from 1 to 4
Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they wont go to yours
Pair up in threes
I knew the record would stand until it was broken
You can observe a lot by watching
The future aint what it used to be
It aint over till its over
These arent even half of the good ones
March 06, 2004 at 03:46AM View BBCode
I agree. Some of his good quotes:A nickel aint woth a dime anymore
The other team could make trouble for us if they win
It's never happened in World Series history, and it hasnt happened since
It's deja vu all over again
It was hard to have a conversation with anyone, there were too many people talking
If the world were perfect, it wouldnt be
I usually take a 2 hour nap from 1 to 4
Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they wont go to yours
Pair up in threes
I knew the record would stand until it was broken
You can observe a lot by watching
The future aint what it used to be
It aint over till its over
These arent even half of the good ones
jojo888
March 06, 2004 at 03:58AM View BBCode
If you havn't you should read Yogi's book. It's called "If you come to a fork in the road, take it" (another of his quotes). It's full of his nonsensical words.
jojo888
March 06, 2004 at 03:59AM View BBCode
I have also heard that Jimmy Piersal was pretty goofy, but it seems to me that he was also a moron.
nextyearcubs
I'm gonna have to read Yogi's book!!!
March 06, 2004 at 03:03PM View BBCode
I think what was cool about Berra, is that his quotes weren't really as nonsensical as they sound. I mean, they are, and then they aren't at the same time. There's some wisdom there, he just had a memorable way of expressing it. He said things that would get you or I made fun or of worse, yet it worked for him. Maybe he is made fun of a little, but he's pretty well respected at the same time.... He's like an oxymoron.I'm gonna have to read Yogi's book!!!
happy
March 07, 2004 at 01:21AM View BBCode
they laughed at what he said, but they knew what he meant.
skierdude44
March 07, 2004 at 01:54AM View BBCode
he isnt stupid its just his way of expressing himself. im definetly gonna read that book.
farfetched
March 07, 2004 at 07:55AM View BBCode
Curt Schilling has a pretty dry sense of humor that I admire. And an attitude toward that whole Questec thing I share whole-heartedly.
happy
March 08, 2004 at 05:30AM View formatted
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probably some british guy is the funniest guy ever. Yogi wasnt trying to be funny. Every british person i ever hung out with made me laugh. I love dry humor.
Duff77
And I thought it was funny that while Schilling was stinking and blaming Questec, the guy he was pitching against was throwing a shutout...or something like that.
March 08, 2004 at 06:21AM View BBCode
Not to turn this into a Questec debate, but I like it. I admit there's a part of me that considers it an affront to the game, but I'm sick of watching the strike zone change every night, and every era. Tom Glavine got away with pitches three feet off the plate for a decade. If Questec can put a stop to that nonsense, so be it. Someone needs to remind these sluggers that a fastball belt high on the inside corner isn't a purpose pitch--it's a strike.And I thought it was funny that while Schilling was stinking and blaming Questec, the guy he was pitching against was throwing a shutout...or something like that.
farfetched
But I for one love the human flaw of the game, and even the drama that has arisen among certain superstars as of late. Almost a Shakespearean tragedy, you could say. But I digress..
My point is... Computerized analysis of the game? Sure, let's see what the numbers say. Computerized broadcast of the game? Sure, I'd like baseball to be as accessible as possible to as many people as possible. Computerized control of the game's officials? No.
March 08, 2004 at 06:28AM View BBCode
Good point, Duff.. Yes, that was pretty funny when he lost his cool and punched out that little radar gun as he was pulled from the game. :lol:But I for one love the human flaw of the game, and even the drama that has arisen among certain superstars as of late. Almost a Shakespearean tragedy, you could say. But I digress..
My point is... Computerized analysis of the game? Sure, let's see what the numbers say. Computerized broadcast of the game? Sure, I'd like baseball to be as accessible as possible to as many people as possible. Computerized control of the game's officials? No.
Duff77
March 08, 2004 at 06:52AM View BBCode
I say yes. Hell, I'd like to see replay instituted. Too many playoff games have been decided on blown calls. The purpose of officiating is to assure that the rules of the game are enforced and that the outcome of all plays is judged accurately. In the old days, four umpires was about as accurate as you got. Now we can do better, and I think we should. Throwing all our eggs in the Questec basket is no great answer, but if a little Questec can stop umpires from inventing their own strike zone and changing it every third inning, I'm all for it.
farfetched
Ever notice how much less emotional you get the more time you spend around a computer? :lol:
March 08, 2004 at 06:56AM View BBCode
I'm not playing the Devil's advocate here as far as arguing goes, but I like to see tempers flare every now and then on the field. It lets you know the game of baseball is alive, and a lot of that is hostility towards the umpires for making a call that one of the two teams or both teams didn't necessarily agree with. Questec would take away a lot of that along with the 'invented' strike zones that do seem a little loopy from time to time.Ever notice how much less emotional you get the more time you spend around a computer? :lol:
farfetched
I can't tell you how many gray hairs this damn Compaq has given me already, and I'm only 21.
March 08, 2004 at 06:57AM View BBCode
That is, if the computer is functioning properly.I can't tell you how many gray hairs this damn Compaq has given me already, and I'm only 21.
Duff77
And personally, I hate watching managers and players scream at umpires like a bunch of children. I'd be happy is Questec stopped THAT, too.
March 08, 2004 at 07:08AM View BBCode
Get a Dell.And personally, I hate watching managers and players scream at umpires like a bunch of children. I'd be happy is Questec stopped THAT, too.
farfetched
March 08, 2004 at 07:18AM View BBCode
You don't think it's funny even in the slightest bit? Reminds me of how I was as a child... and who needs to relive his childhood through his children when he can turn on ESPN and watch Bobby Cox get ejected for the 6th consecutive game or Lou Piniella blow a major blood vessel to the brain while hurling first base into right field? I get a good chuckle at the highlight reels on Sportscenter and Baseball Tonight from time to time, but maybe I'm just demented...
Duff77
March 08, 2004 at 07:26AM View BBCode
If you are, then you aren't anymore than most people. Most people like that stuff. I think it's childish and irrelevant. I generally find it annoying. Brawls? The most annoying aspect of the game. I swear to myself I'm going to stop watching baseball every time I see one. I never stop, but I keep swearing it.
farfetched
Oh yeah... I like arguing. As long as it doesn't get personal and I can laugh about it later.
March 08, 2004 at 07:30AM View BBCode
Oh, I draw the line at physical confrontation myself... Always admired the Joe Torre 'hands-in-the-pocket' approach to arguing with the umpire. The minute the stuff degenerates into a fistfight does to me get annoying, but an elevated sense of emotion that stops short of a fist-o-cuffs is always a small delight to me, for some reason.Oh yeah... I like arguing. As long as it doesn't get personal and I can laugh about it later.
skierdude44
March 08, 2004 at 12:27PM View BBCode
i agree with both of u. duff, i agree that it would be nice to have the game with things like questec and instant replay to make sure that the right calls are made. but i agree with farfetched too bcuz i love seeing lou pinella kicking dirt on the plate or throwing the base. my alltime favorite was lloyd mclendon actually stealing first base when he was ejected. but i also think that baseball has always been a game based on tradition, which sets it apart from the other major sports, so wouldnt it be like going against the basic qualities of the game to institute all that new technology. now that i have completely sat the fence on this issue i will attempt to actually take a side and stop agreeing with everyone. i guess that when push comes to shove i would rather have the umpires making the correct calls, so if that means adding new technology, then im for it.
nextyearcubs
On the other hand, instant replay could have rectified the bad calls, so I have to say I'm up in the air on this one.
I thought Questec was just way of evaluating umpires' strike zones, to see if they are calling an accurate game. From my understanding, it has no effect on the game in progress, but after the game, the umpire is told how well he called the strike zone, and what he needs to adjust to be more accurate. If this is the case, I'm all for it. Umpires need to be kept honest, and scientific evaulation can help to that end. I think that if Questec can keep a more consistent strike zone, it is worth its weight in gold. I'm tired of seing bad calls, or guys arguing balls and strikes, or certain players getting the close calls based upon reputation.
As a footnote to the Cubs story, Alou was quite fired up, I think he was ejected and fined. I thought he was gonna blow his top, I really thought that by the end of the year he was gonna just lose it. (Maybe my impression of him was wrong, but before he was a Cub, I thought he was just this calm, good ballplayer. I never knew he had such a temper or was so intense). The next day, he went 5 for 5 with a coupla homers and like seven RBIs, and I think the drama from the night before really fired him up, and the team as well. From then, on, the Cubs played .700 ball and won the division. Maybe its just coincidence, but sometimes things like this can bring out some fire in a team.... Who knows?
I hate the brawls, but a good argument with an ump is good drama. I think often it serves to rally a team... I don't ever remember hearing of a call overturned on the basis of an argument with an ump... Has it ever happened? Help me out here!
March 08, 2004 at 02:14PM View BBCode
I'm divided on the instant replay thing. I was at a Cubs game last September, the night half of a twi-night with the Cards. Cub fans will probably remember that game because the Cubs were down 2-0, it was like the 7th, bases loaded, 2 outs. Alou smacks a liner down the third base line, it hits the line, and the ump calls it foul. TV replays clearly showed the chalk from the line being kicked up when the ball hit, but of course, the call stood. The Cubs ended up losing 2-0... Sure the bad call cost them the game, but it didn't necesarily have to. Now earlier that day, in the first game, Pujols dropped a ball in left... Actually, he caught it and dropped it when transferring it to his other hand, but it was ruled an error, which led to the Cubs scoring and taking the game into extra innings, and they won that game, so it went both ways. It really was a very sloppily umpired series in general, and that is what I think needs to be addressed, because those weren't hard calls to make at all. Better quality umpiring could have prevented both bad calls, so why bandaid the problem with instant replay?On the other hand, instant replay could have rectified the bad calls, so I have to say I'm up in the air on this one.
I thought Questec was just way of evaluating umpires' strike zones, to see if they are calling an accurate game. From my understanding, it has no effect on the game in progress, but after the game, the umpire is told how well he called the strike zone, and what he needs to adjust to be more accurate. If this is the case, I'm all for it. Umpires need to be kept honest, and scientific evaulation can help to that end. I think that if Questec can keep a more consistent strike zone, it is worth its weight in gold. I'm tired of seing bad calls, or guys arguing balls and strikes, or certain players getting the close calls based upon reputation.
As a footnote to the Cubs story, Alou was quite fired up, I think he was ejected and fined. I thought he was gonna blow his top, I really thought that by the end of the year he was gonna just lose it. (Maybe my impression of him was wrong, but before he was a Cub, I thought he was just this calm, good ballplayer. I never knew he had such a temper or was so intense). The next day, he went 5 for 5 with a coupla homers and like seven RBIs, and I think the drama from the night before really fired him up, and the team as well. From then, on, the Cubs played .700 ball and won the division. Maybe its just coincidence, but sometimes things like this can bring out some fire in a team.... Who knows?
I hate the brawls, but a good argument with an ump is good drama. I think often it serves to rally a team... I don't ever remember hearing of a call overturned on the basis of an argument with an ump... Has it ever happened? Help me out here!
happy
Questec doesnt work right for now, so we shouldnt use it yet. It has a bunch of trouble with balls that move a lot, so it may call it fine for one pitcher, and horribly for another one. I dont mind the umpire calling the game simply because I like having someone to blame for losing. The orioles lost by 20? well that is because there were a couple iffy strikes in there that changed the tide of the game. I like saying stuff like that. makes me feel better when the orioles suck. Blaming a lifeless machine is no fun.
March 08, 2004 at 04:46PM View BBCode
There should be an instant replay. Not an instant replay like in football, one like in basketball, where when they arent sure about the call, they just go and look at it, and make a decision. They shouldnt use instant replay on balls and strikes though.Questec doesnt work right for now, so we shouldnt use it yet. It has a bunch of trouble with balls that move a lot, so it may call it fine for one pitcher, and horribly for another one. I dont mind the umpire calling the game simply because I like having someone to blame for losing. The orioles lost by 20? well that is because there were a couple iffy strikes in there that changed the tide of the game. I like saying stuff like that. makes me feel better when the orioles suck. Blaming a lifeless machine is no fun.
Duff77
As far as replay goes... Every time anyone brings it up, people say "bad calls even out." But there's no proof that's true. And in a playoff game, or a crucial pennant-race situation, one blown call can change the fortunes of an entire season. I think it should be used and should be enforced entirely by the umpires...and that the umpires should be judged against it. If an umpire knows he missed a call, or didn't see it very well, he should make the call as best he can and then ask for a reply. And if he doesn't, and he got the call wrong--he should be judged on that. But we can't put replay power in the hands of managers...that would be nuts. Every game would take eight hours.
March 09, 2004 at 05:34AM View BBCode
nycubs is right about Questec: The purpose of it is to rate the umpires. If I recall, in the game Schilling got pissed, the umpire wanted to call the pitches as much as Schilling did, but couldn't because he knew they weren't strikes...I don't think it was because Questec was telling him--he just knew. And either way, no--I don't think a machine should be used to call games. They're not going to be reliable enough. But if rating the umpires with them forces them to call the strikezone baseball DEMANDS them to, then I think it's a useful tool--Schilling's objections not withstanding. Sorry Curt, you don't get YOUR OWN strike zone, just for you. I thought he was being a real crybaby about the whole thing.As far as replay goes... Every time anyone brings it up, people say "bad calls even out." But there's no proof that's true. And in a playoff game, or a crucial pennant-race situation, one blown call can change the fortunes of an entire season. I think it should be used and should be enforced entirely by the umpires...and that the umpires should be judged against it. If an umpire knows he missed a call, or didn't see it very well, he should make the call as best he can and then ask for a reply. And if he doesn't, and he got the call wrong--he should be judged on that. But we can't put replay power in the hands of managers...that would be nuts. Every game would take eight hours.
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