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bpearly69

Sad day in baseball

July 14, 2010 at 09:08AM View BBCode

George Steinbrenner passing away, might have spelt that wrong, even though I am a big Red Sox fan, he did do a lot of good for baseball
sycophantman

July 14, 2010 at 12:49PM View BBCode

Well, I think its debatable whether the good he did for his Yankees helped any other teams in baseball more than it helped himself. He certainly did right by New York and the team, his selling cable rights for the Yankees was a masterpiece of business acumen.
Kingturtle

July 14, 2010 at 11:23PM View formatted

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i'm sorry he died. but i don't think he was good for baseball. he made billy martin's alcoholism worse, which led to his death. he hired the mob to intimidate dave winfield, cheating him out of one entire season (for which steinbrenner was banned from running the yankees for life, although that sentence only lasted 2 years), he blocked revenue sharing and salary cap plans, and he dismantled yankee stadium. no i think he was awful for baseball.

just because steinbrenner was 'giving' doesn't let him off the hook.

[Edited on 7-19-2010 by Kingturtle]
happy

July 15, 2010 at 12:15PM View BBCode

False.

Actually, Rockefeller was pretty much the man.
sycophantman

July 15, 2010 at 12:20PM View BBCode

Yeah, Steinbrenner is a boring subject, let's talk about Rockefeller instead, cause he was awesome.



"Look, dad, I'm going to pimp slap these fools with this hand."
happy

July 15, 2010 at 12:44PM View BBCode

People called Rockefeller a robber baron because they were jealous losers who got driven to ruin by a better competitor.

Thats the american way. You compete, the best man wins, and the worst man whines and says the system isnt fair and calls you a robber baron.

Its the two most important parts of the american way (allowing for people to use their skill to ascend the economic ladder, and freedom of speech) all bundled into one.
sycophantman

July 15, 2010 at 01:08PM View BBCode

Rockefeller pretty much owned everyone, he was the ultimate pimp. The later life philanthropy, of course, is what made him a true god.
happy

July 15, 2010 at 01:21PM View BBCode

I heard one time he was walking thru germany, and all of a sudden he walked right up to a little uneducated boy and he opened his hand up and touched his five fingers to the boy's forhead and was like "BOOM, KNOWLEDGE", and the power went out in the entire world, and the sky went black, and money started flowing out of his fingers on his other hand up into the sky, and then a beam of light came thru the clouds, and angels started singing. Then everything went back to normal and he went home. That little boy was Albert Einstein.
sycophantman

July 15, 2010 at 01:26PM View BBCode

Rockefeller single handedly discovered kittens, did you know that?
happy

July 15, 2010 at 01:28PM View BBCode

I did not. And I am a part of the prestegious Rockefeller fanclub, the Rockefeller Fellers.
happy

July 15, 2010 at 01:29PM View BBCode

(This new revelation, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW. So THATS what he was doing in Guam.)
sycophantman

July 15, 2010 at 01:31PM View BBCode

Yes, he tapped into a huge motherlode of kittens just below the surface of Guam!

The man was a titan.
happy

July 15, 2010 at 01:36PM View BBCode

I was under the impression that his venture in Guam was his only failure. Stuck out like a sore thumb in all our studies. I mean, how can a guy who single handedly invented water, created the moon, and stopped the robot apocolypse within one week fail at nearly anything he puts his mind to?
sycophantman

July 15, 2010 at 01:37PM View BBCode

I think he had to keep the kittens under wraps for a while, to prevent a mass panic, of course.
happy

July 15, 2010 at 01:39PM View BBCode

Its true. Cuteness overload. I guess that's the reason he scrapped his plan to start youtube.
sycophantman

July 15, 2010 at 01:41PM View BBCode

I could only imagine the hysteria that would follow the news of thousands of kittens surging just below the surface of the earth. It's a good thing we had enough time to digest the news and make peace with it. The unenlightened of that dark age would have surely destroyed themselves over the revelation.
happy

July 15, 2010 at 01:53PM View BBCode

You know, people think Rockefeller made his fortunes on Standard Oil, but in fact he made most of his money as a boxer in an illegal intergalactic underground boxing league. He beat Zortran 3001 for the universe super extra heavy weight title in the year 25382 GT, which had a grand price of over a trillion quiggles.
dirtdevil

July 16, 2010 at 09:21AM View BBCode

you two make me laugh.

(and your bit isn't even the most ridiculous in this thread)
DwightKSchrute

July 16, 2010 at 04:40PM View BBCode

Originally posted by Kingturtle
i'm sorry he died. but i don't think he was good for baseball. he made billy martin's alcoholism worse, which led to his death. he hired the mob to intimidate dave winfield, cheating him out of one entire season (for which steinbrenner was banned from running the yankees for life, although that sentence only lasted 2 years), he blocked revenue sharing and salary cap plans, and he dismantled yankee stadium. no i think he was awful for baseball.

just because steinbrenner was 'giving' doesn't let him off the hook. rockefeller was philanthropic too, but that didn't excuse him for being an censored .

Epic Fail
Kingturtle

July 16, 2010 at 06:12PM View BBCode

which was the epic fail?

i'm sorry he died?
i don't think he was good for baseball?
rockefeller was an censored?
Hamilton2

July 17, 2010 at 07:21PM View BBCode

yes
Kingturtle

July 17, 2010 at 07:54PM View BBCode

sorry, the dude was a convicted felon, overly self-important, callous, and lacked genuine empathy. He was as impulsive as a toddler. read The Last Lion of Baseball.

if you had a girlfriend who cheated on you and insulted you, but then the next day gave a million to your favorite charity and bought you a house, would you stand for it? not me. that's what being involved with steinbrenner was like. he wasn't called THE BOSS for nothing.
vurbil

July 18, 2010 at 01:38AM View BBCode

Yeah, people tend to get overemotional and say inaccurate things about people when they die, which is understandable. He wasn't all bad or all good. He had positive qualities and flaws just like every other human being.

But to say he was good for baseball is truly ridiculous.
vurbil

July 18, 2010 at 01:39AM View BBCode

He was great for the Yankees, yes.

But in being so great for the Yankees, he is the single biggest reason for the decline of baseball as a whole in America.
Hamilton2

July 18, 2010 at 02:06AM View BBCode

What sports franchise is the most universally polarizing in America? The New York Yankees.

What does polarization do for the popularity of anything? Increases it.

Additionally, your comparison to Rockefeller is a bit off base, since Rockefeller himself acknowledged many of his early shortcomings when he turned philanthropic and was intentionally attempting to make up for some of the wrongs of his early life by his generosity.

The decline of baseball in America is because of: increased popularity of American football, NCAA football, the NBA, NCAA basketball and soccer. Also, steroids. NOT the New York Yankees.

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