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mcdmark
That got me to thinking about what should happen when someone throws a pitcher like that out there to start the game. Seems to me there are two options: 1) the manager knows he can only get an inning or two out of the pitcher and yanks him immediately, or 2) the manager hopes that the pitcher has more stamina in him than has been previously shown and leaves him in the game until he gets in real trouble.
It seems to me that the second option is more realistic. It would seem that if the manager thinks the pitcher could start, then he'd be willing to go with him until he started getting into trouble. And for this pitcher with low endurance he should hit the wall fast and hard getting hit hard in the third inning or so and get yanked. Maybe something should be coded for a starting pitcher that until he at least gets in some trouble or reaches the fifth inning (and needs to get pulled for a pinch hitter) that the manager will be willing to leave him in. I just think there should be some penalty for making a coaching error like that. I've included the box score below, but I'm not sure that it is necessary for the analysis.
http://www.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=1905&cityid=16
Low endurance starting pitchers
March 07, 2002 at 02:56PM View formatted
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I had a game yesterday where my opponent's pitcher was yanked after one inning. He hadn't gotten into trouble, but instead had a 1-2-3 inning. So naturally I got curious, thinking maybe he had been brought into a game as an emergency reliever recently or something. Turns out that he just has an "F" for endurance and has no business being anywhere but the bullpen.
That got me to thinking about what should happen when someone throws a pitcher like that out there to start the game. Seems to me there are two options: 1) the manager knows he can only get an inning or two out of the pitcher and yanks him immediately, or 2) the manager hopes that the pitcher has more stamina in him than has been previously shown and leaves him in the game until he gets in real trouble.
It seems to me that the second option is more realistic. It would seem that if the manager thinks the pitcher could start, then he'd be willing to go with him until he started getting into trouble. And for this pitcher with low endurance he should hit the wall fast and hard getting hit hard in the third inning or so and get yanked. Maybe something should be coded for a starting pitcher that until he at least gets in some trouble or reaches the fifth inning (and needs to get pulled for a pinch hitter) that the manager will be willing to leave him in. I just think there should be some penalty for making a coaching error like that. I've included the box score below, but I'm not sure that it is necessary for the analysis.
http://www.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=1905&cityid=16
tysonlowery
I could probably update the logic to say if a pitcher isn't a starting pitcher, but is starting the game, don't remove him just because he gets tired. Only remove him when he starts pitching poorly (tired pitchers pitch increasingly poorly in the game).
But some might argue that this is actually an advantage because he would get more innings out of the pitcher. What do you think?
Maybe a better solution is to penalize a pitcher from the start if he has an Endurance lower than C-, with the notion that he's not used to starting. What do you think about that?
March 07, 2002 at 03:12PM View BBCode
He was penalized in a sense because he burned up his bullpen.I could probably update the logic to say if a pitcher isn't a starting pitcher, but is starting the game, don't remove him just because he gets tired. Only remove him when he starts pitching poorly (tired pitchers pitch increasingly poorly in the game).
But some might argue that this is actually an advantage because he would get more innings out of the pitcher. What do you think?
Maybe a better solution is to penalize a pitcher from the start if he has an Endurance lower than C-, with the notion that he's not used to starting. What do you think about that?
mcdmark
March 07, 2002 at 05:03PM View BBCode
Personally I like your idea of penalizing for an endurance under a C- (although this might have to be mentioned in the rule book). I can see the point about burning his bullpen - because he certainly did use the bullpen a lot and lost in a blowout. Allowing a C pitcher to start would probably be ok, because there are many starters who teams only expect 5 innings. One inning just seemed short to me - if a manager had no plan to pitch him more than one innning why did he start him?
tysonlowery
I'll put it on the enhancements list.
March 08, 2002 at 02:08AM View BBCode
He might have started because the rotation was tired and they were looking to the Long Reliever to make a spot start. Problem is, the long reliever didn't have much "Long" in him.I'll put it on the enhancements list.
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