June 02, 2004 at 09:33PM View BBCode
One of the things that I'm going to need first before adding in some waiver wire stuff and other anti-tanking measures is an injured reserve.June 02, 2004 at 09:59PM View BBCode
you should also have it be an option to able to have him promoted to the majors automatically when he is healthy. Otherwise in leagues that play 15 games a day if you are gone for a long weeked you could lose your stud sp.June 02, 2004 at 10:10PM View BBCode
That would be the other way of doing it. In that scenario, which player would be returned to the minors?June 02, 2004 at 10:45PM View BBCode
well... from what i am thinking, a player who gets injured is a player that you are playing and probably want to keep playing, and players in SD dont need to "warm-up" in the minors to see if they are ready enought to come back to the bigs.... they are either injured or fine. So i think in most every case of an injury the owner in going to want the player to come right back to his major league roster. I think that the main option should be "send back to major league roster, demote _______________ to minors."June 02, 2004 at 11:14PM View BBCode
I believe the manager should have the right to put him in the minors for 15 days for rehab. But he should either be brought back to the major league team after that time or have to clear waivers.June 03, 2004 at 04:42AM View BBCode
There should be a way to set it up so you can have a player on the DL automatically put back into the starting lineup when he is no longer injured.June 03, 2004 at 12:44PM View BBCode
I'm not sure how well the auto-return feature would work because we would have options. If a player is automatically returned, it would force another player to use an option. If he has none, he will go on waivers. Therefore, some players will become automatically waived when the other player is off the DL. I don't like that scenario.June 03, 2004 at 12:50PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tysonlowery
Now the tricky part comes with what to do when the player is healthy again. I don't see any problems with teams moving him back to the team - but what if they don't do this in a reasonable amount of time? I've been looking around for rules on this in MLB. The only thing I found is this:
"According to the Rules, players on a Disabled List "may be assigned to a Minor League Club for the purpose of injury rehabilitation for a maximum of 20 days in the case of non-pitchers and 30 days in the case of pitchers."
Here's what I'm thinking. If the player is on the DL for more than 30 days (configurable for private leagues) after his injury has healed, then he will automatically be placed in the minors. Once we have a waiver wire system in place, he would have to pass through waivers first before going to the minors.
June 03, 2004 at 12:53PM View BBCode
If the player doesn't count on your 25 man roster, and doesn't go to the minors, then wouldn't you be in violation of the roster rules?June 03, 2004 at 01:24PM View BBCode
I think FTP has it right -- leave the guy on the disabled list. It isn't really an advantage to the owner to do so and it happens in real life all the time. Plus, it has another major advantage -- it's simple to program and to understand.June 03, 2004 at 03:24PM View BBCode
There is one way that owners may be able to take advantage of this in the future, and that is if they are trying to tank and a veteran gets injured they could leave him on the DL. But I suppose that however I build penalties in for mistreating veterans, leaving an uninjured player on the DL would be treated the same way as leaving a good vet on the bench or in the minors.June 03, 2004 at 03:25PM View BBCode
I think I'm going to keep it simple and allow you to leave a guy on the DL indefinitely once he is injured. Thanks for the input guys.June 03, 2004 at 03:28PM View BBCode
I'm not asking which he'd count against. If you had 25 in the majors, and he got hurt and went to the DL, you still have 25 in the majors? If you promote one of your 15 minor leaguers to take his spot, do you have 26 in the majors and 14 in the minors, or 25 and 15? I realize that DL spot is invisible, but what about everyone else?June 03, 2004 at 03:50PM View BBCode
Technically in the database, you would have 24-15-1 once he was injured and 25-14-1 once you promote somebody. There is a flag for each player that indicates whether he is in the majors (1) or in the minors (0). For players on the DL, this flag will be set to -1June 03, 2004 at 04:10PM View BBCode
right, so my point is, will you lose CP chances since the database thinks you only have 14 players in the minors?June 03, 2004 at 04:19PM View BBCode
i think you have to pick up another player for your minor league team to get it back up to the 15.June 03, 2004 at 04:30PM View BBCode
then that makes no sense. You shouldn't have to add a waiver wire player to your roster to accomodate an injury.June 03, 2004 at 05:28PM View BBCode
Tom - lets talk this through some more. So you have a player go down with an injury, then have to move him to the DL. Then you may or may not call someone up to replace him. Assuming you do call someone up, you're left with 14 guys in the minors. If you remember how it works, basically you're losing an improvement chance when that 15th invisible coach point gets selected. So you actually aren't losing any real improvement chances that would have gone to the 14 players in the minors. If you want to pick someone up to enjoy that 1 out of every 30th time it gets hit, that's fine.June 03, 2004 at 05:34PM View BBCode
I thought if you had less than 15 players in the minors, or less than 15 CP's assigned, you may get zero opportunities in a game?June 03, 2004 at 05:39PM View BBCode
You could get zero, but the chances would be 1 in 900 if you had 14 minor league players, or 14 assigned CP. Basically, Abe selects a number between 1 and 30 to decide who gets the improvement chance. If you have less than 30 CPs (15 assigned plus 15 invisible), then you aren't using up all the numbers.June 03, 2004 at 05:40PM View BBCode
It is possible. If you've got 14 minor leaguers there is essentially 1 invisible CP that isn't assigned. If that unassigned invisible CP is selected (a 1 in 30 chance), then you would only receive 1 improvement opportunity. If that unassigned invisible CP was selected for both improvement opportunities (a 1 in 900 chance), then you wouldn't receive any improvement opportunities for that game.June 03, 2004 at 05:44PM View BBCode
I think the odds are irrelevant. If a team has 3 guys on the DL, the odds are even higher. It's unfair to force a team into this situation where they could lose opportunities. Not only that, but you're now expecting a team to have major league ready talent in the minors to replace an injured player with, and maybe even 2 or 3. Aren't we trying to get away from having major leaguers hidden in the minors, now we're encouraging it?June 03, 2004 at 05:53PM View BBCode
Originally posted by DeVeau31
I think the odds are irrelevant. If a team has 3 guys on the DL, the odds are even higher. It's unfair to force a team into this situation where they could lose opportunities. Not only that, but you're now expecting a team to have major league ready talent in the minors to replace an injured player with, and maybe even 2 or 3. Aren't we trying to get away from having major leaguers hidden in the minors, now we're encouraging it?
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By the way, now that we have a proper DL, we probably should take an opportunity to increase the number of injuries.Pages: 1 2