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Thanks.
New Candidates Who Retired From 1965-1969:
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549055]Fritz Kuhel[/url]:
7x All Star; 1x CY; 2x World Champion
Led League in GS 2x; ShO 2x; W 1x
20+ W 2x; 200+ K 1x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549041]Nick Tupp[/url]:
5x All Star; 2x CY; 2x World Champion
Led League in W 2x; ERA, WHIP 1x
20+ W 2x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548664]Willie DeBerry[/url]:
14x All Star; 4x CY; 5x World Champion
Led League in WHIP 6x; ERA 5x; ShO 4x; K 2x; W, IP, GS 1x
20+ W 5x; 200+ K 9x
#2 All-Time in W (285); #2 All-Time in ERA (2.82); #3 All-Time in ShO (26); #3 All-Time in WHIP (1.11); #4 All-Time in IP (4,045.2); #4 All-Time in K (3,180); #7 All-Time in CG (99); #8 All-Time in GS (539)
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548588]Pete Alexander[/url]:
12x All Star; 2x CY; ROTY; 2x World Champion
Led League in W 3x; K 2x
20+ W 5x; 200+ K 10x
#8 All-Time in W (234); #9 All-Time in K (2,843)
P [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548908]Pete Liebhardt[/url]:
6x All Star; 1x CY; 3x Fireman; 2x World Champion
Led League in SV 3x; ERA 2x; WHIP 1x
20+ W 1x; 40+ SV 3x
#7 All-Time in ERA (3.04); #7 All-Time in WHIP (1.14)
C [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549152]Andy Schmidt[/url]:
3x All Star; 1x MVP
Led League in HR 1x
.300+ AVG 2x; 40+ HR 1x; 100+ RBI 1x
C [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7916489]Oscar Cruz[/url]:
7x All Star; 3x World Champion
.300+ AVG 1x; 100+ RBI 1x
1B [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548804]Mickey Coggin[/url]:
5x All Star; 6x World Champion
Led League in OBP, BB 1x
.300+ AVG 2x; 100+ R 3x
2B [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549050]Sam Korven[/url]:
5x All Star; 1x MVP; 2x GG
Led League in AVG, OBP, BB 1x
.300+ AVG 4x; 100+ R 2x; 100+ RBI 1x
All-Time Leader in BB (1,103); #5 All-Time in 2B (421); #6 All-Time in H (2,517); #10 All-Time in R (1,369)
SS [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548811]Ossie Burk[/url]:
5x All Star; 4x GG
.300+ AVG 3x; 100+ RBI 1x
#5 All-Time in RBI (1,388); #7 All-Time in HR (364); #8 All-Time in H (2,466)
LF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548939]Eric Avenarius[/url]:
6x All Star; 2x GG
Led League in G 6x; SB 3x; OPS 1x
100+ RBI 4x; 30+ HR 2x; 100+ R 1x; .300+ AVG 3x
#3 All-Time in RBI (1,434); #3 All-Time in SB (418); #4 All-Time in HR (373); #7 All-Time in H (2,506)
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549161]Jose Eaddy[/url]:
6x All Star; 1x MVP; ROTY; 2x GG; 2x World Champion
Led League in 3B 2x; AVG 1x
.300+ AVG 8x; 100+ R 4x
#3 All-Time in AVG (.304); #4 All-Time in OBP (.377); #9 All-Time in 3B (111)
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7916419]Julio Lynch[/url]:
6x All Star
Led League in H 4x; AB 3x; R 2x; BB 1x
.300+ AVG 3x; 100+ R 6x; 200+ H 2x
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549177]Ed Bouldin[/url]:
7x All Star; 1x MVP; ROTY; 5x GG; 3x World Champion
Led League in AVG, H 2x; R, HR, BB, OPS, OBP, SLG 1x
.300+ AVG 4x; 100+ R 4x; 200+ H 1x; 30+ HR 1x; 100+ RBI 3x
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548830]Kevin Avenarius[/url]:
1x All Star; ROTY; 3x GG
Led League in SB 6x; 2B, 3B 1x
All-Time Leader in G (2,723), AB (10,583), H (2,800), 2B (480), SB (590); #4 All-Time in R (1,455); #8 All-Time in RBI (1,322); #10 All-Time in 3B (111)
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548886]Dick Martinez[/url]:
3x All Star; 1x MVP; 1x GG; 2x World Champion
Led League in AVG, SLG, OPS, 3B 1x
.300+ AVG 4x; 100+ R 3x
#2 All-Time in 3B (121)
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549289]Bill Wilson[/url]:
4x All Star
Led League in HR 1x
100+ RBI 4x; 30+ HR 3x
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549059]Dilson Foulke[/url]:
2x All Star; 1x GG; 2x World Champion
100+ RBI 2x
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548847]Alberto Rohas[/url]:
4x All Star; 2x GG
100+ RBI 2x; 1--+ R 1x; .300+ AVG 5x
Ranks #9 All-Time in RBI (1,299)
Carryover Candidates from Prior Ballots:
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548785]Ken Mahoney*[/url]:
5x All Star; 2x CY; 2x World Champion
Led League in GS 3x; W 2x; Sho, ERA, WHIP 1x
20+ W 2x; 200+ K 1x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548508]Mike Miller**[/url]:
5x All Star
Led League in GS 3x; K 1x
20+ W 1x; 200+ K 3x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548463]Rasty Jones**[/url]:
3x All Star; 3x World Champion
Led League in ShO 2x; GS 1x
20+ W 1x; 200+ K 3x
Retired as the JEL?s All Time Leader in W
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548464]Bill Emmerich**[/url]:
2x All Star; 2x CY; 3x World Champion
200+ K 1x
RP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548481]Blaine Porter**[/url]:
4x All Star; 3x Fireman
Led League in SV 2x; G 1x
His 59 (?51) and 56 (?53) save seasons still each rank among the top five in JEL history
3B [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548493]Sam Jorgensen*[/url]:
8x All Star; 1x MVP; 1x GG
Led League in R, H, 2B, BB, SB 1x
100+ Runs 7x
SS [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548661]Derek Hamilton*[/url]:
6x All Star; 3x GG
Led League in Hits 2x; R, 3B, BB 1x
100+ Runs 8x
Retired as the JEL?s All-Time Leader in R, 1B, BB
LF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548961]Dave Castleman*[/url]:
5x All Star; 1x MVP; 5x World Champion
Led League in RBI 2x; BB 1x
100+ Runs 2x; 100+ RBI 4x
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548449]Norm McFadden*[/url]:
6x All Star; 2x MVP; 2x GG
Led League in R, H, 2B, AVG 2x; G, SLG, OBP, OPS 1x
100+ Runs 4x; 100+ RBI 4x; 200+ H 2x
* Player has previously appeared on one ballot.
** Player has previously appeared on two ballots.
[Edited on 11-25-2012 by kjw239]
JEL Hall of Fame Ballot #3 - 1965 to 1969
November 25, 2012 at 01:02AM View BBCode
Attached is the list of JEL Hall of Fame nominees who retired from 1965-1969, along with the carryovers from the previous election. Please try to take 10 minutes sometime over the next week to review the nominees, and attach your votes to this thread, or send them via a u2u to kjw239.Thanks.
New Candidates Who Retired From 1965-1969:
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549055]Fritz Kuhel[/url]:
7x All Star; 1x CY; 2x World Champion
Led League in GS 2x; ShO 2x; W 1x
20+ W 2x; 200+ K 1x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549041]Nick Tupp[/url]:
5x All Star; 2x CY; 2x World Champion
Led League in W 2x; ERA, WHIP 1x
20+ W 2x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548664]Willie DeBerry[/url]:
14x All Star; 4x CY; 5x World Champion
Led League in WHIP 6x; ERA 5x; ShO 4x; K 2x; W, IP, GS 1x
20+ W 5x; 200+ K 9x
#2 All-Time in W (285); #2 All-Time in ERA (2.82); #3 All-Time in ShO (26); #3 All-Time in WHIP (1.11); #4 All-Time in IP (4,045.2); #4 All-Time in K (3,180); #7 All-Time in CG (99); #8 All-Time in GS (539)
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548588]Pete Alexander[/url]:
12x All Star; 2x CY; ROTY; 2x World Champion
Led League in W 3x; K 2x
20+ W 5x; 200+ K 10x
#8 All-Time in W (234); #9 All-Time in K (2,843)
P [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548908]Pete Liebhardt[/url]:
6x All Star; 1x CY; 3x Fireman; 2x World Champion
Led League in SV 3x; ERA 2x; WHIP 1x
20+ W 1x; 40+ SV 3x
#7 All-Time in ERA (3.04); #7 All-Time in WHIP (1.14)
C [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549152]Andy Schmidt[/url]:
3x All Star; 1x MVP
Led League in HR 1x
.300+ AVG 2x; 40+ HR 1x; 100+ RBI 1x
C [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7916489]Oscar Cruz[/url]:
7x All Star; 3x World Champion
.300+ AVG 1x; 100+ RBI 1x
1B [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548804]Mickey Coggin[/url]:
5x All Star; 6x World Champion
Led League in OBP, BB 1x
.300+ AVG 2x; 100+ R 3x
2B [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549050]Sam Korven[/url]:
5x All Star; 1x MVP; 2x GG
Led League in AVG, OBP, BB 1x
.300+ AVG 4x; 100+ R 2x; 100+ RBI 1x
All-Time Leader in BB (1,103); #5 All-Time in 2B (421); #6 All-Time in H (2,517); #10 All-Time in R (1,369)
SS [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548811]Ossie Burk[/url]:
5x All Star; 4x GG
.300+ AVG 3x; 100+ RBI 1x
#5 All-Time in RBI (1,388); #7 All-Time in HR (364); #8 All-Time in H (2,466)
LF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548939]Eric Avenarius[/url]:
6x All Star; 2x GG
Led League in G 6x; SB 3x; OPS 1x
100+ RBI 4x; 30+ HR 2x; 100+ R 1x; .300+ AVG 3x
#3 All-Time in RBI (1,434); #3 All-Time in SB (418); #4 All-Time in HR (373); #7 All-Time in H (2,506)
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549161]Jose Eaddy[/url]:
6x All Star; 1x MVP; ROTY; 2x GG; 2x World Champion
Led League in 3B 2x; AVG 1x
.300+ AVG 8x; 100+ R 4x
#3 All-Time in AVG (.304); #4 All-Time in OBP (.377); #9 All-Time in 3B (111)
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7916419]Julio Lynch[/url]:
6x All Star
Led League in H 4x; AB 3x; R 2x; BB 1x
.300+ AVG 3x; 100+ R 6x; 200+ H 2x
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549177]Ed Bouldin[/url]:
7x All Star; 1x MVP; ROTY; 5x GG; 3x World Champion
Led League in AVG, H 2x; R, HR, BB, OPS, OBP, SLG 1x
.300+ AVG 4x; 100+ R 4x; 200+ H 1x; 30+ HR 1x; 100+ RBI 3x
CF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548830]Kevin Avenarius[/url]:
1x All Star; ROTY; 3x GG
Led League in SB 6x; 2B, 3B 1x
All-Time Leader in G (2,723), AB (10,583), H (2,800), 2B (480), SB (590); #4 All-Time in R (1,455); #8 All-Time in RBI (1,322); #10 All-Time in 3B (111)
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548886]Dick Martinez[/url]:
3x All Star; 1x MVP; 1x GG; 2x World Champion
Led League in AVG, SLG, OPS, 3B 1x
.300+ AVG 4x; 100+ R 3x
#2 All-Time in 3B (121)
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549289]Bill Wilson[/url]:
4x All Star
Led League in HR 1x
100+ RBI 4x; 30+ HR 3x
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7549059]Dilson Foulke[/url]:
2x All Star; 1x GG; 2x World Champion
100+ RBI 2x
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548847]Alberto Rohas[/url]:
4x All Star; 2x GG
100+ RBI 2x; 1--+ R 1x; .300+ AVG 5x
Ranks #9 All-Time in RBI (1,299)
Carryover Candidates from Prior Ballots:
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548785]Ken Mahoney*[/url]:
5x All Star; 2x CY; 2x World Champion
Led League in GS 3x; W 2x; Sho, ERA, WHIP 1x
20+ W 2x; 200+ K 1x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548508]Mike Miller**[/url]:
5x All Star
Led League in GS 3x; K 1x
20+ W 1x; 200+ K 3x
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548463]Rasty Jones**[/url]:
3x All Star; 3x World Champion
Led League in ShO 2x; GS 1x
20+ W 1x; 200+ K 3x
Retired as the JEL?s All Time Leader in W
SP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548464]Bill Emmerich**[/url]:
2x All Star; 2x CY; 3x World Champion
200+ K 1x
RP [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548481]Blaine Porter**[/url]:
4x All Star; 3x Fireman
Led League in SV 2x; G 1x
His 59 (?51) and 56 (?53) save seasons still each rank among the top five in JEL history
3B [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548493]Sam Jorgensen*[/url]:
8x All Star; 1x MVP; 1x GG
Led League in R, H, 2B, BB, SB 1x
100+ Runs 7x
SS [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548661]Derek Hamilton*[/url]:
6x All Star; 3x GG
Led League in Hits 2x; R, 3B, BB 1x
100+ Runs 8x
Retired as the JEL?s All-Time Leader in R, 1B, BB
LF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548961]Dave Castleman*[/url]:
5x All Star; 1x MVP; 5x World Champion
Led League in RBI 2x; BB 1x
100+ Runs 2x; 100+ RBI 4x
RF [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7548449]Norm McFadden*[/url]:
6x All Star; 2x MVP; 2x GG
Led League in R, H, 2B, AVG 2x; G, SLG, OBP, OPS 1x
100+ Runs 4x; 100+ RBI 4x; 200+ H 2x
* Player has previously appeared on one ballot.
** Player has previously appeared on two ballots.
[Edited on 11-25-2012 by kjw239]
kjw239
Kuhel
Tupp
DeBerry
Alexander
Liebhardt
Cruz
Burk
E. Avenarius
Eaddy
Bouldin
Mahoney
Miller
Porter
Hamilton
November 25, 2012 at 02:51PM View BBCode
NYA votes for:Kuhel
Tupp
DeBerry
Alexander
Liebhardt
Cruz
Burk
E. Avenarius
Eaddy
Bouldin
Mahoney
Miller
Porter
Hamilton
Greyfan
Willie DeBary
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebhardt
Sam Korven
Ossie Burk
Eric Avenarius
Ed Bouldin
Kevin Avenarius
Blaine Porter
Sam Jorgensen
Derek Hamilton
Dave Castleman
Norm McFadden
November 25, 2012 at 05:26PM View BBCode
CLE votes:Willie DeBary
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebhardt
Sam Korven
Ossie Burk
Eric Avenarius
Ed Bouldin
Kevin Avenarius
Blaine Porter
Sam Jorgensen
Derek Hamilton
Dave Castleman
Norm McFadden
Todibus
DeBerry
Alexander
Burk
E Avernarius
Bouldin
K Avernarius
Rohas
Porter
Jorgenson
McFadden
November 26, 2012 at 01:55AM View BBCode
Cyclones vote for:DeBerry
Alexander
Burk
E Avernarius
Bouldin
K Avernarius
Rohas
Porter
Jorgenson
McFadden
joetinker
Alexander
Burk
Eric Avenarius
Porter
Bouldin
November 28, 2012 at 03:19AM View BBCode
DeBerryAlexander
Burk
Eric Avenarius
Porter
Bouldin
kjw239
November 29, 2012 at 12:48AM View BBCode
Thanks to all who have voted so far. I plan to end voting at the end of the day Sunday if we have received enough ballots by then, so if you want to vote please post your ballot or send me a u2u with your selections over the next several days. Thanks.
meinrad1337
Alexander
Burk
Porter
Jorgenson
McFadden
Bouldin
Liebhardt
November 29, 2012 at 07:40AM View BBCode
DeBerryAlexander
Burk
Porter
Jorgenson
McFadden
Bouldin
Liebhardt
Chickenfarmer
Willie Deberry
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebardt
Ed Bouldin
Norm McFadden
November 30, 2012 at 10:00PM View BBCode
I vote for:Willie Deberry
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebardt
Ed Bouldin
Norm McFadden
kjw239
I'll keep things open until the end of the day on Tuesday for anyone who has forgotten and still wants to vote.
If nobody else votes by then, I'll close the ballot and assume that the ninth ballot we need is all "Nos" and then tabulate the results.
December 03, 2012 at 11:16PM View formatted
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We're still one vote shy of having enough participants for this ballot.
I'll keep things open until the end of the day on Tuesday for anyone who has forgotten and still wants to vote.
If nobody else votes by then, I'll close the ballot and assume that the ninth ballot we need is all "Nos" and then tabulate the results.
Alpo
Alexander
Burk
Porter
McFadden
Bouldin
Liebhardt
December 03, 2012 at 11:39PM View BBCode
DeBerryAlexander
Burk
Porter
McFadden
Bouldin
Liebhardt
nodaka
tupp
deberry
alexander
liebardt
koren
burk
avenarius
eaddy
lynch
boulden
k avenarius
mahoney
jones
hamilton
mcfadden
December 04, 2012 at 02:27AM View BBCode
kuheltupp
deberry
alexander
liebardt
koren
burk
avenarius
eaddy
lynch
boulden
k avenarius
mahoney
jones
hamilton
mcfadden
chmela11
pete alexander
pete liebhardt
sam korven
ossie burk
eric avenarius
kevin avenarius
rasty jones
derek hamilton
December 04, 2012 at 03:05AM View BBCode
willie deberrypete alexander
pete liebhardt
sam korven
ossie burk
eric avenarius
kevin avenarius
rasty jones
derek hamilton
BabyDoc
Fritz Kuhel
Nick Tupp
Willie DeBerry
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebhardt
Ossie Burk (The Wizard of Oss- check his defense!)
Ed Bouldin
***
Alberto Rohas - okay, here's the deal. OPS=.843 even though he kept playing until he was 39 years old. 335 HR. Stole 255 bases and 70% successful. Not a liability in the field. A 5-tool player way above the level of anyone starting with "Aven". Yes, we've got monsters with higher OPS these days, but not back then. This wasn't my guy, y'all. I'm just pushing him because he deserves it. If you didn't vote for him, please consider adding him on before he disappears from the ballot!
***
Ken Mahoney
Rasty Jones
***
Dave Castleman- OPS .854, and in the spotlight of a team that won 5 straight WS.
And then I feel sort of crummy to do it, but I'm going to campaign in the negative: I did not vote for either Avenarius. Eric was very good but I count his steals against him (caught WAY too many times to be a benefit to his team.) Kevin's biggest accomplishment was playing 19 full seasons and that is a "wow", but .746 OPS is ordinary and 356 caught stealing more than cancels out 590 steals to me. He is the only player ever caught more than Eric. (By the way, the other Avenarius, Randy, was caught MORE THAN HE STOLE!) OK, I've said.
December 04, 2012 at 04:18AM View BBCode
Temper votes and commentary:Fritz Kuhel
Nick Tupp
Willie DeBerry
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebhardt
Ossie Burk (The Wizard of Oss- check his defense!)
Ed Bouldin
***
Alberto Rohas - okay, here's the deal. OPS=.843 even though he kept playing until he was 39 years old. 335 HR. Stole 255 bases and 70% successful. Not a liability in the field. A 5-tool player way above the level of anyone starting with "Aven". Yes, we've got monsters with higher OPS these days, but not back then. This wasn't my guy, y'all. I'm just pushing him because he deserves it. If you didn't vote for him, please consider adding him on before he disappears from the ballot!
***
Ken Mahoney
Rasty Jones
***
Dave Castleman- OPS .854, and in the spotlight of a team that won 5 straight WS.
And then I feel sort of crummy to do it, but I'm going to campaign in the negative: I did not vote for either Avenarius. Eric was very good but I count his steals against him (caught WAY too many times to be a benefit to his team.) Kevin's biggest accomplishment was playing 19 full seasons and that is a "wow", but .746 OPS is ordinary and 356 caught stealing more than cancels out 590 steals to me. He is the only player ever caught more than Eric. (By the way, the other Avenarius, Randy, was caught MORE THAN HE STOLE!) OK, I've said.
ShoelessJoes
Pete Alexander
Pete Liebhardt
Sam Korven
Ossie Burk
Eric Avenarius
Ed Bouldin
Kevin Avenarius
Blaine Porter
Sam Jorgensen
Derek Hamilton
Dave Castleman
Norm McFadden
December 04, 2012 at 10:10PM View BBCode
Willie DeBaryPete Alexander
Pete Liebhardt
Sam Korven
Ossie Burk
Eric Avenarius
Ed Bouldin
Kevin Avenarius
Blaine Porter
Sam Jorgensen
Derek Hamilton
Dave Castleman
Norm McFadden
kjw239
For those keeping score at home, I used the ballot submitted by ShoelessJoes on this thread, rather than the ballot he submitted on the nominations thread, but I used the ballot alecansky74 submitted on the nominations thread since that was the only one he submitted.
December 05, 2012 at 11:49AM View BBCode
Thanks to all who voted. This ballot is now closed.For those keeping score at home, I used the ballot submitted by ShoelessJoes on this thread, rather than the ballot he submitted on the nominations thread, but I used the ballot alecansky74 submitted on the nominations thread since that was the only one he submitted.
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