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whiskybear
Daunte Culpepper is a jerkwad
February 03, 2005 at 05:12AM View BBCode
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2004/02/02/bc.fbn.superbowl.culpep.ap/index.html
FuriousGiorge
February 03, 2005 at 05:19AM View BBCode
Wow, the degift. Pretty lame. He's Larry David with more bling.
abarkov
February 04, 2005 at 03:43PM View BBCode
Well here goes. At the risk of sounding very cruel and heartless, this kid had no business asking for anything. Maybe Culpepper was wrong to put it around the kids neck, but really what planet are those parents from thinking that a pro athlete is just going to give the kid something. Cry your eyes out mother and teach your kidthat if he wants something to earn it and not beg for it.
whiskybear
It was just a candid moment. The kid jokingly asked for some bling, and Culpepper was dense enough to oblige. At that point, he should have just made the jewelry a tax write-off and bought some more. It's not like he doesn't have oceans of money.
February 04, 2005 at 03:46PM View BBCode
Originally posted by abarkov
Well here goes. At the risk of sounding very cruel and heartless, this kid had no business asking for anything. Maybe Culpepper was wrong to put it around the kids neck, but really what planet are those parents from thinking that a pro athlete is just going to give the kid something. Cry your eyes out mother and teach your kidthat if he wants something to earn it and not beg for it.
It was just a candid moment. The kid jokingly asked for some bling, and Culpepper was dense enough to oblige. At that point, he should have just made the jewelry a tax write-off and bought some more. It's not like he doesn't have oceans of money.
abarkov
[Edited on 2-4-2005 by abarkov]
February 04, 2005 at 04:07PM View BBCode
OK, I get that. I'm sure I read in the story that he is going to take care of the kid with something else or maybe I heard that on the radio at work last night. Anyway, I'm sure that he will get the kid something. One thing also is the bling was his number 11 and a pepper for his last name. Most rational people would know he isn't giving the bling bling to the kid. Hey dad forget the safe, get a brain.[Edited on 2-4-2005 by abarkov]
FuriousGiorge
And you know that kid is getting a signed football. Probably one that Daunte degifted from a 7 year old leukemia patient right after the kid died, since what the hell does some dead kid need with a football?
February 04, 2005 at 04:11PM View BBCode
The greatest part of this story is that it gives white people the chance to say bling. Or ice.And you know that kid is getting a signed football. Probably one that Daunte degifted from a 7 year old leukemia patient right after the kid died, since what the hell does some dead kid need with a football?
Cubsfan13
February 04, 2005 at 06:53PM View BBCode
Wow, you got to say degift, ice, and bling in one post. That is like the cycle of posting.
whiskybear
I think you need to have at least one "holla" in order to reach the cycle.
February 04, 2005 at 06:55PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Cubsfan13
Wow, you got to say degift, ice, and bling in one post. That is like the cycle of posting.
I think you need to have at least one "holla" in order to reach the cycle.
Cubsfan13
February 04, 2005 at 06:56PM View BBCode
That would be the combination regular cycle with the ebonics cycle. This double cycle hasn't ever been achieved.
whiskybear
February 04, 2005 at 07:04PM View BBCode
Ahh. But we're agreed you need four things in order to constitute a cycle, right? Otherwise, it just wouldn't be natural.
drunkengoat
Personally, ask and ye shall receive. That's my motto, at least when sexual favors are out of the question. As for Mr. Culpepper, I am on the side which finds him at fault.
February 04, 2005 at 08:06PM View BBCode
What about cheese in the non-edible sense? Anyhow... That's off the subject.Personally, ask and ye shall receive. That's my motto, at least when sexual favors are out of the question. As for Mr. Culpepper, I am on the side which finds him at fault.
FuriousGiorge
February 04, 2005 at 10:40PM View BBCode
I don't really think "fault" is the right word. I mean, what he did was a big fat social faux pas, but I can't really blame the guy. He was staring down some downtrodden-looking kid in a wheelchair who asked for a couple of iced-out necklaces (holla!). He gave him the bling, and then degifted it (word the hell up) when he realized it was probably stupid to give some knucklehead kid you never met before $75,000 in necklaces that were totally off da heezy. If you were looking down the barrels of two puppy dog eyes you'd be given out some totally phat wear too and then trying to get it back when you had time to think about it, g.
ABDREW
February 05, 2005 at 02:54AM View BBCode
call me crazy but I don't think it is that big of a deal. I think the press wanted it to be a big deal though. I
tdski19
February 05, 2005 at 03:51PM View BBCode
Culpepper is a cool guy. He hangs out on PS2 online playing madden. That's beside the point. After what he went through while he was growing up, I'm sure he knows somewhat how this kid feels. As long as he sends the kid something else, I have no problem with the incident. Who knows, he might talk to Moss about this situation. Moss helps out kids in need in his home-town all the time during the offseason. Moss is not all that bad of a guy either. I just think the media is out to get Moss and anyone who is associated with him. I'm sure if Donovan McNabb would have done something like that, we wouldn't be talking about it right now.
abarkov
I do also think the media has blown this out off all proportion.
February 05, 2005 at 05:10PM View BBCode
Ok this will be my last word on this subject I promise. Whiskeybear, he could not have given the bling to the kid and taken a tax write off. The kid or his family is not a charitable foundation. In fact since this jewelry is valued between 75,000 to 85,000, if he had in fact given it to the kid, the family would have to report it as income and pay taxes on it. This is bacause the maximum allowable gift is 10,000 without paying taxes.I do also think the media has blown this out off all proportion.
FuriousGiorge
I hadn't even heard this story outside of this message board. But even if other people have, maybe have heard too much about it, is it really "the media's" fault? They have two weeks before the Super Bowl where very little is going on in sports, where they have to fill up airtime and column space with SOMETHING. They reported on a story involving Daunte Culpepper that's interesting, that people care to read about. If people have a problem with what "the media" does then turn off your radio, turn off your TV and don't read your damn paper. Otherwise realize that if "the media" reports on too many stupid and asinine stories (which this may or may not be) it's YOUR fault for encouraging them.
February 05, 2005 at 08:05PM View BBCode
Ah yes, the media. Villain in a hundred victorian melodramas, archnemesis of Charlie Chan and James Bond, scourge of modern society. Done something wrong? Blame the media for talking about it, they're ones at fault, not you.I hadn't even heard this story outside of this message board. But even if other people have, maybe have heard too much about it, is it really "the media's" fault? They have two weeks before the Super Bowl where very little is going on in sports, where they have to fill up airtime and column space with SOMETHING. They reported on a story involving Daunte Culpepper that's interesting, that people care to read about. If people have a problem with what "the media" does then turn off your radio, turn off your TV and don't read your damn paper. Otherwise realize that if "the media" reports on too many stupid and asinine stories (which this may or may not be) it's YOUR fault for encouraging them.
skierdude44
Why is it that athletes are looked at as these people that are obligated to go out of their way and do things for other people? I mean its good to do things for other people but since when has that become a requirement for being an athlete. Would you give a complete stranger something that you value and worked for to get? Hell no. But because Daunte Culpepper is a highly paid athlete he is supposed to go out of his way and give very valueable gifts to total strangers on command. That's alittle absurd. Sure it would be good if he used his position to help out the less fortunate but since when was that a prerequisite for playing in the NFL. How often do you give money to charity and give gifts to total strangers? Sure you might give money to charity every once in a while but I'm pretty sure that you don't go down the street giving random people gifts on your way home from cashing your latest paycheck.
February 06, 2005 at 12:22AM View formatted
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That truely is an awkward situation. Some kid asks you for some ice, what are you supposed to say? If you say no then you look like an ass. If you say yes then you just gave up some very expensive jewelry that obviously has some sort of meaning to you. Maybe Daunte should have told the kid that he would let him where it for the night instead of just giving it to him and then asking for it back later. But also I don't think that the kid made out to badly on the deal. I mean sure it sucks if you really expected to keep the ice but you couldn't really expect him to just give the kid the necklaces and let him keep it. I mean I think its cool when athletes throw wrist bands, head bands, jerseys, etc. to the fans or something but could you really expect them to just give you $75,000 worth of jewelry. And hey this kid didn't make out to bad either. He got to wear some really expensive jewelry which most of us probably won't even come anywhere near something worth that much and Culpepper did say that he would give him something else which is also more than he could expect when he went to the ceremony.
Why is it that athletes are looked at as these people that are obligated to go out of their way and do things for other people? I mean its good to do things for other people but since when has that become a requirement for being an athlete. Would you give a complete stranger something that you value and worked for to get? Hell no. But because Daunte Culpepper is a highly paid athlete he is supposed to go out of his way and give very valueable gifts to total strangers on command. That's alittle absurd. Sure it would be good if he used his position to help out the less fortunate but since when was that a prerequisite for playing in the NFL. How often do you give money to charity and give gifts to total strangers? Sure you might give money to charity every once in a while but I'm pretty sure that you don't go down the street giving random people gifts on your way home from cashing your latest paycheck.
tdski19
Yes it is the medias fault because they want controversy whenever they can get it. Was it really that big of a deal when Moss "mooned" the crowd in Green Bay? They way Joe Buck reacted would make someone think that he actually dropped his pants. I personally thought it was funny. It just goes to show that people in the media just want controversy.
February 06, 2005 at 01:05AM View BBCode
Very good point from skier.Yes it is the medias fault because they want controversy whenever they can get it. Was it really that big of a deal when Moss "mooned" the crowd in Green Bay? They way Joe Buck reacted would make someone think that he actually dropped his pants. I personally thought it was funny. It just goes to show that people in the media just want controversy.
FuriousGiorge
Nobody is saying that Culpepper should have allowed the kid to keep the jewelry. He made a dumb mistake and then slowly realized it. He committed a social faux pas by asking for the crap back - of course he was going to ask for it back eventually. Nobody is saying that he's a bad guy for asking it back, chief. But he does come out looking like something of a jackass.
February 06, 2005 at 01:29AM View BBCode
They want controversy because YOU want controversy. If Moss or Culpepper weren't players on your favorite team, you would be joining the masses excoriating them (well, not Culpepper, that was just dumb).Nobody is saying that Culpepper should have allowed the kid to keep the jewelry. He made a dumb mistake and then slowly realized it. He committed a social faux pas by asking for the crap back - of course he was going to ask for it back eventually. Nobody is saying that he's a bad guy for asking it back, chief. But he does come out looking like something of a jackass.
Meathead44
I agree that the media tends to over-hype some stories and they slant others, but to blame them for situations that occur is laughable. Culpepper is getting grief because he did something stupid in front of the media. And before you try to tell me that it is a non-story, you should rethink that. This thread would indicate that it is a story and there is interest. As far as the media is concerned, if it's something that will get people talking, then it's a story worth reporting.
February 07, 2005 at 04:27PM View BBCode
It was a stupid move to give it to the kid in the first place. He should have just laughed it off when the kid asked and moved on. The idea that the kid and his parents should have known that they would have to give it back is stupid. Culpepper is an extremely rich man, is it so unbelievable that he might give something of value away to someone less fortunate than himself? A $75K gift to him is about equal to a $500 gift by someone making $30k per year.I agree that the media tends to over-hype some stories and they slant others, but to blame them for situations that occur is laughable. Culpepper is getting grief because he did something stupid in front of the media. And before you try to tell me that it is a non-story, you should rethink that. This thread would indicate that it is a story and there is interest. As far as the media is concerned, if it's something that will get people talking, then it's a story worth reporting.
tdski19
February 09, 2005 at 04:04AM View BBCode
I am slightly biased, but I don't want to hear of this controversy. I just want to watch my favorite team play the game.
Railroad
February 09, 2005 at 04:13AM View BBCode
I just think there was little thought placed in his actions on putting the bling around the kids neck. If he truly wants to help the family out, find out what expenses they have from the everyday life of this child and help out that way. If he wants to give more than the ten allowed, give ten to each member of the family. Then Dad could have his safe, Mom could have her crying towel, and the child could have something he truly wants. . .an autographed Peyton Manning Ball.Pages: 1 2