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skierdude44
Not only this but now he is also taking shots at yet another QB, Donovan McNabb. T.O., your Super Bowl performance was great an all but the bottom line is that the Eagles didn't actually NEED you to make the Super Bowl. They would have won their division without him. They made it to the NFC Championship game without him. They won the NFC Championship game without him. And they would have lost the Super Bowl to the Pats without him. McNabb isn't the best QB out there but he is a leader and he took his team on his back when Owens went down. He has played in playoff games in years past with various injuries such as playing through broken ribs. He is the man in Philly and this is not the guy you want to be messing with especially with the Philly media. It was ok when you attacked Jeff Garcia because Garcia sucks (it was still pretty annoying though) but McNabb is not a completely worthless QB like Garcia was.
I had a new found respect for him after his Super Bowl performance but that is all gone now. I just don't get him and I don't think that he gets it.
T.O. opens his yap again...
April 14, 2005 at 10:58PM View BBCode
I just don't understand this guy. After coming off of an amazing and heroic Super Bowl performance which helped him gain some respect he pulls his latest stunt. He believes that he "out performed" his contract and deserves more money. He believes that the contract is not suited for a premiere player which he believe he is (and there is no doubt there atleast). But come on man, YOU SIGNED THE DAMN THING. If you aren't happy with the terms you have no one to blame but yourself. I really wonder if he realizes these sort of things. If you sign a contract it means you agree to the terms. The same goes for his big free agency debacle last offseason where he and his agent missed the deadline to turn in the papers granting him free agency. Apparently paperwork isn't his strong suit.Not only this but now he is also taking shots at yet another QB, Donovan McNabb. T.O., your Super Bowl performance was great an all but the bottom line is that the Eagles didn't actually NEED you to make the Super Bowl. They would have won their division without him. They made it to the NFC Championship game without him. They won the NFC Championship game without him. And they would have lost the Super Bowl to the Pats without him. McNabb isn't the best QB out there but he is a leader and he took his team on his back when Owens went down. He has played in playoff games in years past with various injuries such as playing through broken ribs. He is the man in Philly and this is not the guy you want to be messing with especially with the Philly media. It was ok when you attacked Jeff Garcia because Garcia sucks (it was still pretty annoying though) but McNabb is not a completely worthless QB like Garcia was.
I had a new found respect for him after his Super Bowl performance but that is all gone now. I just don't get him and I don't think that he gets it.
ABDREW
April 14, 2005 at 11:17PM View BBCode
Was this on a show or in a newspaper? I would be interested in reading this if you have a link to it.
youngallstar
But why all the talk about T.O taking the only contract he could get given his situation? And there was talk about him not being payed like the top recievers are paid... so I dunno.
Stay tuned..
April 14, 2005 at 11:27PM View BBCode
I heard that he wants more money pushed to the front end of his 7 yr 49 mill contract as opposed to the back end.But why all the talk about T.O taking the only contract he could get given his situation? And there was talk about him not being payed like the top recievers are paid... so I dunno.
Stay tuned..
skierdude44
April 14, 2005 at 11:31PM View BBCode
He said today that he feels that the current deal is not "fit" for a player of his stature. It's been all over ESPN and I was reading an article on MSN about it earlier. I'll take a look and see if I can find the link.
skierdude44
Here's one article that touches on it a bit but it doesn't touch on his shots at McNabb.
April 14, 2005 at 11:41PM View BBCode
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3541152Here's one article that touches on it a bit but it doesn't touch on his shots at McNabb.
sycophantman
I have long been a TO-basher but his super bowl performance made me rethink my stance, that perhaps he had grown up a bit, at last.
Sad to see him willing to piss away all that good will over a few dollars more. No spinning this story, really, this is ugly ugly greed...
April 15, 2005 at 12:10AM View BBCode
Hmm, it's rather sad...I have long been a TO-basher but his super bowl performance made me rethink my stance, that perhaps he had grown up a bit, at last.
Sad to see him willing to piss away all that good will over a few dollars more. No spinning this story, really, this is ugly ugly greed...
skierdude44
April 15, 2005 at 12:52AM View BBCode
The one thing that I respect about T.O. is that he will give you 110% on the field at all times. Whether he is happy or not he never dogs it like Randy Moss does. He actually won me over and got me in his corner with his Super Bowl performance but that's all over with now and I'm back to disliking him. On the field he constantly gives effort but sometimes you have to wonder if the off the field headaches he causes are worth it.
ME
The Eagles would not have won as much as they did without T.O., though with the NFC's overall worthlessness last year they probably still would have gotten a bye and division titile with him (though maybe not the #1 seed).
It doesn't really matter what he says, he's going to play when the game is on, and all the other players around him are going to play their best as well (or else they never would have gotten there in the first place), because they all want to win and this is a super-bowl contending team.
[Edited on 4-15-2005 by ME]
April 15, 2005 at 01:11AM View BBCode
Jeff Garcia wasn't totally worthless. He was one of the league's better QBs for several years.The Eagles would not have won as much as they did without T.O., though with the NFC's overall worthlessness last year they probably still would have gotten a bye and division titile with him (though maybe not the #1 seed).
It doesn't really matter what he says, he's going to play when the game is on, and all the other players around him are going to play their best as well (or else they never would have gotten there in the first place), because they all want to win and this is a super-bowl contending team.
[Edited on 4-15-2005 by ME]
FuriousGiorge
April 15, 2005 at 02:54AM View BBCode
Not to condone TO's behavior, because he is seemingly the biggest malcontent in professional sports, but he does have a point about the non-guaranteed contracts. Teams in the NFL can cut a player any time they want and not be on the hook for his remaining yearly salary, so why shouldn't the players turn the tables on the owners and squeeze every nickel they can from them while their team is willing to pay them real actual money (as opposed to the paper fortunes that they give out to guys with backloaded contracts who won't see a dime of the money they sign for in the last few years of the deal)?
sycophantman
But in the end, TO will be on the field and his teammates will get along. You can't dispute that TO gives his all every play. As much as Philadelphia fans are maligned for being belligerent oafs, they adore a hard working athlete like Allen Iverson and TO. Hopefully he will let this go before training camp starts...
April 15, 2005 at 12:16PM View formatted
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Well, it's hard to be too sympathetic, since normal citizens of planet reality live by those employment standards their entire lives...
But in the end, TO will be on the field and his teammates will get along. You can't dispute that TO gives his all every play. As much as Philadelphia fans are maligned for being belligerent oafs, they adore a hard working athlete like Allen Iverson and TO. Hopefully he will let this go before training camp starts...
skierdude44
Then you ask to restructure your contract. If you restructure it you don't get any more money but you get more money upfront so that if they do decide to cut you in the latter stages of the deal than you still have gotten the majority of the money in the deal.
It is a decent point but when the guy gets a 10 million dollar signing bonus (or whatever T.O.'s bonus was) which is guaranteed it is alittle hard to be sympathetic when he is worried that he won't be making even more millions down the road because that isn't guaranteed to him.
April 15, 2005 at 06:59PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Not to condone TO's behavior, because he is seemingly the biggest malcontent in professional sports, but he does have a point about the non-guaranteed contracts. Teams in the NFL can cut a player any time they want and not be on the hook for his remaining yearly salary, so why shouldn't the players turn the tables on the owners and squeeze every nickel they can from them while their team is willing to pay them real actual money (as opposed to the paper fortunes that they give out to guys with backloaded contracts who won't see a dime of the money they sign for in the last few years of the deal)?
Then you ask to restructure your contract. If you restructure it you don't get any more money but you get more money upfront so that if they do decide to cut you in the latter stages of the deal than you still have gotten the majority of the money in the deal.
It is a decent point but when the guy gets a 10 million dollar signing bonus (or whatever T.O.'s bonus was) which is guaranteed it is alittle hard to be sympathetic when he is worried that he won't be making even more millions down the road because that isn't guaranteed to him.
FuriousGiorge
April 15, 2005 at 08:02PM View BBCode
I'm not sympathetic to TO, not one bit. He is a malcontent and a petulant child and he should shut his damn yap for a little bit. I'm just saying, don't judge him by the same standard that you might judge a baseball player, or a basketball player, who sign a mutual contract and who are guaranteed that money. He won't see a dime on the back end if he gets cut, so I at least understand it when a football player holds out or asks for more money despite already signing a contract.Pages: 1