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Anonymous

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Possible Collusion

August 01, 2003 at 12:34AM View BBCode

Please check into possible collusion involving Kansas City Patriots and New York Flapy Sacs.

the latest trade in question: 6/7/50

"The Kansas City Patriots receive Keith Black (SP, round 13), Al Richard (2B, round 14), Jumbo Cimoli (3B, round 32), Ross Auer (1B, round 2), Steve Urbanski (SP, round 13) from the New York Flapy Sacs in exchange for Ron Williams (2B, r5), Bob Armstrong (RP, r29), Doc Sutherland (SS, r39), George Geishert (SP, r21), Herb Cipriani (LF, r32), Mike Hunt (2B, r43), Duane Shean (2B, r15)."

These two teams have previously made many other trades where the same team (Kansas City) has greatly benefitted.

the most extreme examples:

4/15 the trade involving Mike Dean
4/17 trade with Jeff Reich

Shadowspawn

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August 01, 2003 at 12:49AM View BBCode

KC loves to trade. He is constantly making me offers. As soon as 1 trade is accepted or declined, he offers another. I would have to give him the benefit of the doubt. I did not look at the skills of the players involved, but if it was a little one-sided, KC may have simply worn down the other GM :D. I hope nothing underhand went on as it is nice to have someone as involved as him. I do know that he and Cincy are friends, but that does NOT mean there is or was any collusion between those 2 clubs. - NY (AL)

cerberus131313

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August 02, 2003 at 09:15PM View BBCode

nah, he's still not whipping everyone's butts, i wouldnt worry about it. like shadowspawn said, he just likes to trade. if he starts winning 10 in a row repeatedly, then we'll look into it

Anonymous

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Now that Kansas City has made another suspicious...

August 05, 2003 at 12:56AM View formatted

trade with the same team and won 10 of 11 games, please investigate the possiblity of collusion between the Kansas City Patriots and the New York Flapy Sacs. I hate to accuse anyone of wrongdoing, but there can't be any other reason for this trade and some of the other trades involving these teams. I know that if I would make trade offers like these, I would expect to get laughed out of the league.


the latest trade, 6/19:

Kansas City gets
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=231983 and http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=231539

Flapy Sacs:
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=231969 and http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=232435


links to players in the 4/17 trade:

Kansas City received http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=232089 (9th round B SP who might have been injured at the time)

Flapy Sacs received http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=231563 (40th round C+ RP, pitched 18 innings) and
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=231579 (47th round C RP, never played)

mm42

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August 05, 2003 at 01:54AM View BBCode

If you feel there is collusion you need to post this on the "Problems" forum on message board or e-mail Tyson directly. I doubt he reads all the posts in every single league.

griffel

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August 05, 2003 at 03:00AM View BBCode

if you are making accusations, you could at least log in like a man and not post anonymously.

damaestrio

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Kansas City

August 11, 2003 at 08:07PM View BBCode

I've looked at Kansas City and the guy does trade ALOT. I've seen nothing in his trade comments to suggest collusion with another owner. We've actually seen him catch the bad end of some TERRIBLY bad trades in other leagues. So right now I think he just makes a lot of trade deals-if anyone has any harder evidence of collustion, please let us know.