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JollyGreenGiant
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051130&content_id=1274138&vkey=hotstove2005&fext=.jsp
Now if only Thome will stay healthy...
Konerko resigns with the White Sox
December 01, 2005 at 04:40PM View BBCode
Passed up more money being offered by the Orioles, as well as the chance to play closer to his Arizona home with the Angels. He's a first-class guy and I'm glad to see him back in Chicago.http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051130&content_id=1274138&vkey=hotstove2005&fext=.jsp
Now if only Thome will stay healthy...
DougB
December 01, 2005 at 04:54PM View BBCode
Thome, Konerko, Thomas, Everett... how many DH's does one team need?
FuriousGiorge
December 01, 2005 at 04:59PM View BBCode
The Farmer's Almanac says that four is the perfect number of DH's to have this year.
JollyGreenGiant
As of right now, the only DH types the White Sox officially have is Konerko and Thome.
December 01, 2005 at 05:10PM View formatted
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Everett is already gone, with no chance of returning. Thomas is gone too, with his contract already having been bought out, but there's possibly a very very small chance he will return. He'd get almost no playing time unless Konerko or Thome were to get hurt... so unless he's coming back for very cheap and likes riding the bench, it's probably not such a good idea.
As of right now, the only DH types the White Sox officially have is Konerko and Thome.
DougB
December 01, 2005 at 06:22PM View BBCode
then with an overpaid Konerko matching the same as a fairly paid one... and Thome doing what Everett and Thomas did... how are they any different than last season? Oh yeah they have less money and no longer have Aaron Rowand. OK. Good plan.
BrutusKhan
Now, he is a very good defensive 1b, and Thome is going to be as good as any DH in the league. So, they lost Rowand, but look at his numbers, it wasn't that much to lose. They have several young OF prospects, in Sweeney, Anderson & Bouchard who will compete to play LF/CF, and there won't be a drop off from last year's Rowand. Maybe Rowand has more potential, but a guy whose projections I respect, baseballnotebook.com, was not very high on him last year, and proved to be right.
The team is built on that pitching, and as of now, they are all healthy & coming back. So, until I see something out of Minn. or Clev., I'm seeing the '06 Sox in the playoffs again, which is making me contemplate season tickets for about $10k. I can re-coupe about half of that IF they make the playoffs easily, and ALL of it IF they went to the WS again, so it's real tempting. Of course, $10k is a large chunk of change to just throw out there on baseball tickets, and when I do goto the games, I always have to have real good seats. You spend so much on beer & food, the price of the ticket becomes a small portion of the day's spending, but factors in a lot on how much you enjoyed the game.
Doug
December 01, 2005 at 06:43PM View BBCode
Konerko is making about $4 million more, and for one of the slowest men in the league, I'd say he is overpaid. However, the money doesn't mean crap when evaluating the team's overall talent. The reason Konerko got so much for so long is tied to the weak free agent market, and that in Chicago, he is the fan favorite. The White Sox are a team that rarely sells out, regardless of record, and they are trying to turn the town from a Cub town to a Sox town, or at least 50/50. They will easily make back the $4 million in attendance, jersey's, concessions, etc by signing Konerko, than the fan money they would have lost if they didn't, so overpaying him makes sense to me.Now, he is a very good defensive 1b, and Thome is going to be as good as any DH in the league. So, they lost Rowand, but look at his numbers, it wasn't that much to lose. They have several young OF prospects, in Sweeney, Anderson & Bouchard who will compete to play LF/CF, and there won't be a drop off from last year's Rowand. Maybe Rowand has more potential, but a guy whose projections I respect, baseballnotebook.com, was not very high on him last year, and proved to be right.
The team is built on that pitching, and as of now, they are all healthy & coming back. So, until I see something out of Minn. or Clev., I'm seeing the '06 Sox in the playoffs again, which is making me contemplate season tickets for about $10k. I can re-coupe about half of that IF they make the playoffs easily, and ALL of it IF they went to the WS again, so it's real tempting. Of course, $10k is a large chunk of change to just throw out there on baseball tickets, and when I do goto the games, I always have to have real good seats. You spend so much on beer & food, the price of the ticket becomes a small portion of the day's spending, but factors in a lot on how much you enjoyed the game.
Doug
JollyGreenGiant
And yes, I would prefer Thome over Carl "first pitch, especially in the dirt, swinging" Everett/Thomas. He costs less for the Sox(8mil vs 14.5mil the duo would cost in 2006), will free up a roster spot (1 player vs 2), is a great clubhouse guy, and has the better chance of putting up strong numbers given the same ABs this year. Either way you are rolling the dice, but I'd prefer Thome.
It does suck that Rowand is gone, but the White Sox have 2 maybe 3 possible future star OFs waiting to get their chance at the major league level. Either Rowand had to go, or one of them.
PS- Don't be bitter because the Brewers suck :P
December 01, 2005 at 07:06PM View BBCode
DougB, unfortunately there is a little thing called Free Agency in baseball and sometimes you have to payup to keep your good players... It would be nice to still have Konerko at his 8 mil a year, but that's just not the way things work.And yes, I would prefer Thome over Carl "first pitch, especially in the dirt, swinging" Everett/Thomas. He costs less for the Sox(8mil vs 14.5mil the duo would cost in 2006), will free up a roster spot (1 player vs 2), is a great clubhouse guy, and has the better chance of putting up strong numbers given the same ABs this year. Either way you are rolling the dice, but I'd prefer Thome.
It does suck that Rowand is gone, but the White Sox have 2 maybe 3 possible future star OFs waiting to get their chance at the major league level. Either Rowand had to go, or one of them.
PS- Don't be bitter because the Brewers suck :P
JollyGreenGiant
December 01, 2005 at 07:11PM View BBCode
BrutusKhan, you forgot about Jerry Owens as a possible replacement for Rowand too... they've really got alot of options.
FuriousGiorge
Quite the optimist. No team ever has as many as two future star outfielders "waiting to get their chance", let alone three. If you're lucky, one of them will turn into a very good major league starter and another will be servicable. Attrition always claims prospects, especially in an organization that still prefers tools over production and who have a mixed track record at best with the previous decade's worth of "can't miss" prospects.
December 01, 2005 at 07:22PM View BBCode
Originally posted by JollyGreenGiant
It does suck that Rowand is gone, but the White Sox have 2 maybe 3 possible future star OFs waiting to get their chance at the major league level. Either Rowand had to go, or one of them.
Quite the optimist. No team ever has as many as two future star outfielders "waiting to get their chance", let alone three. If you're lucky, one of them will turn into a very good major league starter and another will be servicable. Attrition always claims prospects, especially in an organization that still prefers tools over production and who have a mixed track record at best with the previous decade's worth of "can't miss" prospects.
BrutusKhan
That being said, they still have to prove it, but the W. Sox are starting to show some signs of developing talent. Konerko came into his own under the Sox, Crede, Rowand, Buerhle, Garland, and fat boy did pretty good for them in the 9th inning in the playoffs(jenks). Not all these guys were drafted by the Sox, but I would say the Sox qualify for some of the credit on their success.
Taking that into account, Borchard was a big time prospect, cost like 5 or 10 mil signing bonus to get him not to play football. He looked worse than Drew Henson, until midway last season, where he seems to have turned the corner. This guy has hit HR's over 500 ft more than once. Think Adam Dunn w/ out the walks. If he develops an eye, he'll be an instant star. If not, the more likely, he'll never bat over 100 times in a season.
Anderson & Sweeney & Owens are legit prospects, but their minor league stats don't scream star to me. I honestly would trade ALL of them for Pierre, and be done with it, or go get the fastest man I've seen run in my life, Joey Gathright from Tampa. Rumor has it several teams have inquired about him.
Doug
December 01, 2005 at 08:23PM View BBCode
It's no surprise the same teams keep turning out the most strong prospects, as some GM's/ organizaitons just know more than the rest of the league. The A's/Braves being at the top of the list, imo, with KC being dead last.That being said, they still have to prove it, but the W. Sox are starting to show some signs of developing talent. Konerko came into his own under the Sox, Crede, Rowand, Buerhle, Garland, and fat boy did pretty good for them in the 9th inning in the playoffs(jenks). Not all these guys were drafted by the Sox, but I would say the Sox qualify for some of the credit on their success.
Taking that into account, Borchard was a big time prospect, cost like 5 or 10 mil signing bonus to get him not to play football. He looked worse than Drew Henson, until midway last season, where he seems to have turned the corner. This guy has hit HR's over 500 ft more than once. Think Adam Dunn w/ out the walks. If he develops an eye, he'll be an instant star. If not, the more likely, he'll never bat over 100 times in a season.
Anderson & Sweeney & Owens are legit prospects, but their minor league stats don't scream star to me. I honestly would trade ALL of them for Pierre, and be done with it, or go get the fastest man I've seen run in my life, Joey Gathright from Tampa. Rumor has it several teams have inquired about him.
Doug
FuriousGiorge
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December 01, 2005 at 08:33PM View BBCode
Your obsession with speed borders on the clinically insane.[Edited on 12-1-2005 by FuriousGiorge]
skierdude44
December 01, 2005 at 08:38PM View BBCode
Why don't they get Marion Jones to come play centerfield for them?
FuriousGiorge
December 01, 2005 at 08:48PM View BBCode
Obviously because she wouldn't pass the steroid test.Pages: 1