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Duff77
Seriously...I was amazed when he threw that bomb into double coverage. And then he turns around 5 minutes later and throws another one--a longer one--into triple coverage. Unbelievable.
Favre
December 23, 2003 at 05:44AM View BBCode
Okay, I'm no big fan of football, but I like Brett Favre. I've always liked Brett Favre. But as I guy who lost his own father this month, it was really a pleasure to watch Brett rip Oakland multiple new a-holes last night. I only saw parts of the first half, but Brett was just connecting on everything...some of the most inspired playing I have ever seen by anyone in any sport. 310 yards in the first half? Talk about making the old man proud.Seriously...I was amazed when he threw that bomb into double coverage. And then he turns around 5 minutes later and throws another one--a longer one--into triple coverage. Unbelievable.
andrew
December 23, 2003 at 05:48AM View BBCode
I will never get tired of watching Brett Farve play. Long live Farve. Go Packers! :)
sycophantman
December 23, 2003 at 11:02AM View BBCode
Even though he rips my Bears to shreds every year, it's an honor to be able to see him twice a season.:)
happy
December 23, 2003 at 04:34PM View BBCode
think, bret favre with GOOD WRs. his WRs arent very good, but that day, they all got inspired, and played well. the double coverage throw was an interception that was pulled away by the WR, and the triple coverage shouldve been underthrown, but the WR adjusted and caught it. amazing play by the WRs, normal play by favre. if favre had a randy moss type player on his team his whole career he probably wouldve broken all the passing records.
FuriousGiorge
December 23, 2003 at 06:51PM View BBCode
I'll say it: Brett Favre has f-ed up priorities. A goddamn football game right after his father dies? Maybe that is "what his father would have wanted" but if that's so, then maybe the whole family has f-ed up priorities. Being with his family should have been more important than a football game.
jigakoeochiro
December 23, 2003 at 07:44PM View BBCode
obviously you didnt read the posts on this very carefully did you. but anyways, a great game, but not unexpected. when favre is really motivated he is unstopable. i reckon he will inspire his team to a division title and throughout the playoffs, but hopefully not if he plays my rams. then i hope for more of the performance he put on in 2001.....
FuriousGiorge
December 23, 2003 at 08:01PM View BBCode
I read all the posts, and my comment didn't have anything to do with them in general, just my feelings about the fact that Brett Favre played a football game one day after his father died. Somehow the fact that he played well is seen as "heroic", and I don't hear any commentators talking about how ridiculous it is that he was playing at all instead of being there to support his family. Commentators lament the loss of decency and family ties in the professional athlete on the one hand, and on the other hand praise players for choosing football over family. If Brett Favre thinks football is that important then that's his decision, but I don't have to agree with the general consensus that him playing was "courageous". I think it just shows you that football is too goddamn important to him.
Duff77
It sounds crazy to be wondering about your rookie RF's batting average six hours after you found your father, but it turns out to be very therapeutic. What it is--or was for me, anyway--was that you're so overwhelmed by emotion that you feel like you're in the twilight zone...nothing makes any sense. And the only way to shake that feeling is to back off of it and do something else--something you normally do.
The other thing about a situation like that... You look to do ANYTHING that can honor the person you've lost. In Brett's mind, that's what he was doing. I can understand that and respect it. But more than anything, I think he played just to help himself put things back in perspective...to screw his head back onto his shoulders and abate that feeling of emptiness and hopelessness and disconnection.
If it had been me, I would've played. If it had happened when I was younger, and when I was playing baseball, I would've wanted to play--just to back off from what had happened and clear my head. And for another thing...my dad would've wanted me to play. In times like that you think an awful lot about what the person you lost would've wanted you to do. Even someone like me--someone not particularly religious--gets that feeling that the person they lost is with them. And when you feel like that you act on behalf of that person, doing whatever you think they would've wanted, and I'm sure Brett though his dad would've wanted him to play.
I can't say I would've entirely had my head in the game, but when you're that emotional, getting into the zone pretty much happens by itself. When Rick Suttcliffe was with the Orioles, he pitched the day after he lost his mother, and he was just as impressive. It was the best start he ever had with the Orioles. I doubt if he gave two thoughts to that start--the emotion itself focused his mind and ability.
So anyway, I think it's shortsighted to conclude Brett played because he cares more about football than family. And let's not forget, his father was his high school football coach. Football WAS his family, as it likely is for lots of atheletes. Football was probably a large part of his relationship with his father. That plays into it as well.
December 23, 2003 at 10:02PM View formatted
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I really think that's jumping the gun. I really do. And I'm saying this as someone who recently lost his father, is fairly young, and was pretty close to his dad... Now I'm no football player, but when you go through the sheer and utter hell of losing someone like that, the pain that first day or two is so unremitting that you'll do anything to gain a sense of normality. He didn't play because football is more important to him than family. He played because football is what he does, and what he loves, and in a situation like that about the only thing that allows you to clear your head is doing something you normally like to do. Brett didn't have the trauma of finding his father, as I did, but I can tell you that when I got home that afternoon, the first thing I did when I got a free moment was sign onto SimDynasty and check my teams. I viewed a couple of games, looked at some stats--relaxed and cleared my head for a while.
It sounds crazy to be wondering about your rookie RF's batting average six hours after you found your father, but it turns out to be very therapeutic. What it is--or was for me, anyway--was that you're so overwhelmed by emotion that you feel like you're in the twilight zone...nothing makes any sense. And the only way to shake that feeling is to back off of it and do something else--something you normally do.
The other thing about a situation like that... You look to do ANYTHING that can honor the person you've lost. In Brett's mind, that's what he was doing. I can understand that and respect it. But more than anything, I think he played just to help himself put things back in perspective...to screw his head back onto his shoulders and abate that feeling of emptiness and hopelessness and disconnection.
If it had been me, I would've played. If it had happened when I was younger, and when I was playing baseball, I would've wanted to play--just to back off from what had happened and clear my head. And for another thing...my dad would've wanted me to play. In times like that you think an awful lot about what the person you lost would've wanted you to do. Even someone like me--someone not particularly religious--gets that feeling that the person they lost is with them. And when you feel like that you act on behalf of that person, doing whatever you think they would've wanted, and I'm sure Brett though his dad would've wanted him to play.
I can't say I would've entirely had my head in the game, but when you're that emotional, getting into the zone pretty much happens by itself. When Rick Suttcliffe was with the Orioles, he pitched the day after he lost his mother, and he was just as impressive. It was the best start he ever had with the Orioles. I doubt if he gave two thoughts to that start--the emotion itself focused his mind and ability.
So anyway, I think it's shortsighted to conclude Brett played because he cares more about football than family. And let's not forget, his father was his high school football coach. Football WAS his family, as it likely is for lots of atheletes. Football was probably a large part of his relationship with his father. That plays into it as well.
skierdude44
December 26, 2003 at 05:37AM View BBCode
i kinda agree with disciple on this. i mean if my dad died and i had the option as to whether i wanted to go out and play football the next day i would definetly say no, unless that wuz like my dads last wish and it wuz like the last thing he said to me as he wuz laying in a hospital bed dying. then i would go out and play for him and i would probably play really crappy. but maybe that wuz favre's way of grieving. i dunno. but i just think that if it wuz me i would spend time with my family and not playing football.
Duff77
December 26, 2003 at 05:57AM View BBCode
One thing I know for sure is that not everybody handles death in the same way, and the fact that someone goes out and plays football doesn't necessairly mean they don't care, or have their priorities screwed up. That said, all football players have their priorities screwed up. If they didn't, they would never have become great football players (my theory). But since the priorities of Brett's dad were probably as screwed up as his, I'm sure in Brett's mind that WAS his way of grieving, and of dealing with it. Without the advantage of being Brett Favre, none of us can say, but my gut tells me Brett played because he was thinking about how important it would've been to his dad. And damn it, if that had been in my head, I would've played too.
happy
December 30, 2003 at 07:49PM View BBCode
id say if my dad died i would probably go to sleep. when my cat died i played video games until i fell asleep
sycophantman
My cat died when I was a kid, I found him by tripping over his corpse in the dark...:(
December 31, 2003 at 03:16PM View BBCode
I guess you managed to play through the tears in your eyes....:rolleyes:My cat died when I was a kid, I found him by tripping over his corpse in the dark...:(
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