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Anonymous
December 05, 2003 at 12:28AM View BBCode
what the yankees need is a gold-glove CF to man the big outfield, evne if it means sacrificing some hitting. I don't think any guys like this- Andruw Jones, Juan Pierre, Tory (sp?) Hunter, Darin Estad, Mike Cameron are available.
hobos
December 05, 2003 at 12:31AM View BBCode
i assume u mean erstad in which case u are wrong. erstad is little better than bernie in CF. the angels are planning to move him to first if they cant come up with a good 1B. when he was younger/healthier i would have agreed
FuriousGiorge
December 05, 2003 at 12:39AM View BBCode
Actually, Mike Cameron IS available, and he would make a great addition for the Yankees. Of course, he also wouldn't make a big splash like Vlad Guerrero, so the Boss won't be going after him. Bonus is that he can also hit a little. Darin Erstad is a great center fielder too, but his problem is that, between 1999 and 2003, he's had exactly one season with the bat that was worth anything. Moving him to 1st base makes no sense to me at all: his greatest asset is his defense in center, and he can't even hit enough to be a regular shortstop, let alone a 1st baseman.
happy
December 05, 2003 at 02:06AM View BBCode
i think it is torii (not that i am the authority when it comes to spelling names) anyway, the yankees need to just get 5 or 6 more star starting pitchers, and maybe 4 or 5 extra bats. maybe sign vlad so they can use scheffield (i bet i spelled that wrong) as a pinch hitter, and maybe sign A rod and use jeter as a pinch hitter too.
skierdude44
December 05, 2003 at 02:36AM View BBCode
just bitter that they yanks ownership wants to win happy? u need to face the fact that free agency and trades r part of sports, almost no1 stays on the same team for their entire career. its not that they r being evil or anything by leaving their old team, and in some cases the old team doesnt want them any more, or that the teams that add players steal them, for example all 30 teams or however many there r all had a shot a sheffield, he was fair game but he decided to sign with the yankees, or is gonna sign with the yankees. thats not stealing players thats sports and free agency, if u dont like it than get a new hobby.
happy
December 05, 2003 at 03:02AM View BBCode
the last time when i said steal, i dont mean it in a negative term, i think it is a great tactic, pick up HOFers from your rival, and get them into the hall with your jersey on. seriously good tactic to piss off the other team. that is why i think the redsox should try to do the same thing. the point i was making with the last post isnt "stupid yankees buy everything" just that everyone is like "maybe they should sign Andrew jones, and get this pitcher and..." and it ends up sounding like that. they want to win, doesnt everyone? some people just cant afford it.
skierdude44
i also heard that vazquez is interested in resigning with the yankees for a long term deal so he prolly wont be a one year and out guy. the pettitte situation is interesting bcuz the yankees say that they r confident that he will be a yankee next season, but his agents say that pettittes chances of ending up in houston r stronger than ever. houston denies that they offered pettitte a contract and an anonymous gm of an american league club predicts that pettitte will be an astro. the kevin brown deal is dead bcuz according to stark it would have been a 3 or 4 team deal with richie sexson ending up in LA and the d'back trade killed that. the arod deal is still alive and texas says that they do want manny but boston has to pay ALL of arod's contract and a large portion of manny's. arod has 7 years and 180 mill left on his contract.
December 05, 2003 at 08:07PM View BBCode
i heard that the O's r prepared to offer vlad guerrero a 5 year deal but guerreroj's friends say that he prefers a team with a large population of spanish speaking players, preferably dominican, according to jayson stark in an arcticle on espn.com. sorry about that happy.i also heard that vazquez is interested in resigning with the yankees for a long term deal so he prolly wont be a one year and out guy. the pettitte situation is interesting bcuz the yankees say that they r confident that he will be a yankee next season, but his agents say that pettittes chances of ending up in houston r stronger than ever. houston denies that they offered pettitte a contract and an anonymous gm of an american league club predicts that pettitte will be an astro. the kevin brown deal is dead bcuz according to stark it would have been a 3 or 4 team deal with richie sexson ending up in LA and the d'back trade killed that. the arod deal is still alive and texas says that they do want manny but boston has to pay ALL of arod's contract and a large portion of manny's. arod has 7 years and 180 mill left on his contract.
skierdude44
December 05, 2003 at 08:09PM View BBCode
o and also for that arod deal to go down boston has to deal nomar to either LA or anaheim before dealing ramirez. one of the things i heard is that they will deal him to anaheim for adam kennedy and a few prospects, but i have no idea if anaheim is even interested in this deal. i wouldnt get ur hopes up yet sox fans.
skierdude44
December 05, 2003 at 08:13PM View BBCode
o and one question, who is ahead in the race now, yanks or sox? it is javier vazquez, tom gordon, paul quantrill, felix heredia, and i am assuming gary sheffield to curt schilling. i think that the yanks r in the lead now.
ME
i made that anonymous post, forgot to log in and had to go right after i made it.
December 05, 2003 at 09:27PM View BBCode
the yankees are beating the red sox, nothing new.i made that anonymous post, forgot to log in and had to go right after i made it.
sycophantman
They got the best toys around, but they aren't happy until they take away that candyland board from the other kids...
December 05, 2003 at 10:30PM View BBCode
The Red Sox and Yankees remind me of a couple of spoiled little kids at a preschool this offseason.They got the best toys around, but they aren't happy until they take away that candyland board from the other kids...
sycophantman
Just sad that only 4 or 5 owners in baseball care about winning first above all else...
December 05, 2003 at 10:32PM View BBCode
Of course, I don't begrudge them for going after talent. It isn't against the rules, so go for it!Just sad that only 4 or 5 owners in baseball care about winning first above all else...
happy
December 05, 2003 at 11:14PM View BBCode
Texas is not willing to admit that A rod is overpaid, and they should just release him and see if anyone picks him up. they should trade straight up manny for A rod, just to get A rods contract gone.
skierdude44
December 05, 2003 at 11:21PM View BBCode
arod makes 25 mill a year manny makes 20 that is very little help to them at all. they would just rip themselves off that way cuz they r paying just about the same amount of money but getting a player that no one likes, that doesnt play hard or all out all the time, and who just isnt as talented as arod. something i find funny though is that the redsox president or who ever he is, i know his name is larry something, wuz the one who called the yankees the evil empire last year but is doing exactly the same thing that he criticized the yankees for. wut a hypocrite. well i cant blame him for trying to win, i think it helps the game, but i think that he shouldnt complain when it isnt working in his favor and then do the exact thing he criticized when he has the chance.
happy
December 05, 2003 at 11:33PM View BBCode
just about as much? i think that gets rid of 20% of the salery for another very good player. they are both well overpaid. id say 12-13 million for Manny and 15 mil for a rod.
skierdude44
December 05, 2003 at 11:55PM View BBCode
manny makes 20 million a year over the next 4 or 5 years, arod makes 25.2 million over the next 7 years, that is very close and the rangers r getting the short end of the stick in a straight up deal.
happy
December 06, 2003 at 12:33AM View BBCode
very close? you get rid of 5.2 mil a year, and 2 years of contract is very little?
andrew
December 06, 2003 at 03:21AM View BBCode
I think one part of the deal would be that Boston would have to pay some of Manny's contract.
happy
December 06, 2003 at 03:29AM View BBCode
then it is a bad deal for boston. i think a straight up deal is bad for boston if you ask me
FuriousGiorge
I do. Most GM's would make that deal straight up in a heartbeat, especially those who have designs on winning next year.
December 06, 2003 at 06:48AM View BBCode
You don't think a good fielding shortstop, who plays hard and is fan friendly, who also happens to be one of the 5 greatest hitters in the game, is worth 5 milllion per year more than a poor fielding left fielder who has a lackadaisical attitude, couldn't care less about the fans and also happens to be one of the 5 greatest hitters in the game?I do. Most GM's would make that deal straight up in a heartbeat, especially those who have designs on winning next year.
ME
December 06, 2003 at 02:39PM View BBCode
Boston already has Nomah, and if they are unless they play on moving him to 2nd, they will have to trade him, and since everyone will know they have to trade him than they won't be able to get as much as he's worth for him.
hobos
December 06, 2003 at 03:48PM View BBCode
the reports say kaz matsui is gonna sign with the mets. at least that's what all the other clubs say. something official should be announced by the end of the day
happy
December 06, 2003 at 05:02PM View BBCode
i think that 5 million is a lot more than it was before. i think manny is worth around 12 million, and A rod around 15 million, so id say there is a 3 million difference.
skierdude44
December 07, 2003 at 04:39PM View BBCode
i think that if the redsox could hold on to nomar and get arod than its a good deal for them but if they trade nomar than all i see is them losing offense, but they do get rid of manny and his cancerous behavior. i doubt it will happen.