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MonkeyMook

July 08, 2009 at 11:25PM View BBCode

Commish --- Where do we stand? When will we know?

Thanks!
INDIANSFORLIFE

July 08, 2009 at 11:32PM View BBCode

Im good with that idea Todd...

right now we have exactly 8 planning on renewing..a couple are still undecided..
todd999430

July 08, 2009 at 11:34PM View BBCode

10 teams renewing is the minimum. The downside is then you wait while you find 6 owners... and who knows what kind of GMs they'll be... What if the Message Boards get quiet?
INDIANSFORLIFE

July 08, 2009 at 11:36PM View BBCode

Exactly...might be a snowball problem...
MonkeyMook

July 09, 2009 at 02:07AM View BBCode

What can be done to encourage those of you that are undecided to come back for another few seasons? Would changing the league away from a prize league, and then lowering the cost of renewing, help to get a couple of more teams back?
lemaster

Hey Todd

July 09, 2009 at 02:36AM View BBCode

Is your offer still sitting on Chicago's desk?
todd999430

July 09, 2009 at 04:12AM View BBCode

Originally posted by lemaster
Is your offer still sitting on Chicago's desk?


yes, my offer to the Cougars was sent on 5/29 of this season. It was read.

my other offer, sent to NY Gravesend on 7/20 of this season, sits unread.

It is now 8/16 in the season. Game 121 is upcoming. 5/29 was game 52. 7/20 was game 97.

At 12 games a day, things move pretty fast.
lemaster

That kinda says it all

July 09, 2009 at 04:17AM View BBCode

About one of this league's problems. Accept it. Decline it. Counter. But don't let it sit.
LannisG

July 09, 2009 at 01:32PM View BBCode

Or at least send a u2u stating that you want to see if a better offer might come or some form of communication...
INDIANSFORLIFE

July 09, 2009 at 05:41PM View BBCode

Not from me :P

I started a new thread and posted in the admin merge thread..
YarM80

July 10, 2009 at 02:54PM View BBCode

I will not be returning. If we want to start a brand new league or something, I might be in to that. I really, really like the initial 1950 draft a lot. In fact, that's what got me back into playing Sim D again exclusively for this league.

I worry that this league is taking its dying breath right now, though.
YarM80

July 10, 2009 at 02:55PM View BBCode

It's kind of too bad, too. My team is on the cusp of being competitive again after a relatively brief rebuilding session. I have some very nice pieces on my team and my whole team will be a lot better next year.
DVfhsindians058

July 10, 2009 at 07:00PM View BBCode

I changed my renewal status to undecided. I think I'm going to just take whatever portion of the renewal prize I get and transfer it over to my other league and just stick with the one league for now.
MonkeyMook

July 10, 2009 at 08:18PM View BBCode

It looks like this league is dead...
lemaster

Unintended consequences

July 10, 2009 at 09:22PM View BBCode

The prize renewal is a great thing, but did you ever think it would harm the leauge in a negative way? I didn't, that is until I tried to trade many, many, many times with guys in the running for it. "Nah, gonna keep him so I can win the renewal." Even if their team is out of it and has no chance, trading is stunted. So you eliminate one... two...three owners who are in it for the renewal and that's 1-2-3 fewer trader partners you have ina league where most owners won't make offers to begin with, or answer them when they're made. Funny how things turn out sometimes. To those of you who have been active, who have taken the time to give me the time of day when I've sent offers, I'm thinking about forming a league if the ABL folds. I'll be recruiting active guys to be sure, and I think we'll skip the prize renewal. It'll be a competitive league where tanking is most definitely discouraged and one where owners who let offers sit won't be back at renewal, for sure.

[Edited on 7-10-2009 by lemaster]
todd999430

July 10, 2009 at 11:37PM View BBCode

I will join, Lemaster. Just lead the way.
todd999430

July 10, 2009 at 11:38PM View BBCode

PS. if you find dogbelly, tell him i still hate the poodles.
DVfhsindians058

July 11, 2009 at 02:24AM View BBCode

I see your point Lem but I feel like the bigger issue here is the owners who choose to simply be active without reason.

I myself have been guilty of holding onto players to win prize renewals but in the same token I've also continued to trade prospects/draft-picks as my team gets older to keep my run going. Thus, I think that argument is a push.

The real travesty is made not to the owners who choose to decline trades to keep their team stronger, but to the owners who choose to just let offers sit with no valid reason.
todd999430

July 11, 2009 at 03:04AM View BBCode

UPDATE: HMPA has declined my offer. This happened yesterday.

UPDATE #2: My offer still sits on Chicago's desk.
todd999430

July 11, 2009 at 05:03PM View BBCode

UPDATE:

on 9/17, my trade offer was declined by Chicago.
INDIANSFORLIFE

July 12, 2009 at 08:16PM View BBCode

Originally posted by lemaster
The prize renewal is a great thing, but did you ever think it would harm the leauge in a negative way? I didn't, that is until I tried to trade many, many, many times with guys in the running for it. "Nah, gonna keep him so I can win the renewal." Even if their team is out of it and has no chance, trading is stunted. So you eliminate one... two...three owners who are in it for the renewal and that's 1-2-3 fewer trader partners you have ina league where most owners won't make offers to begin with, or answer them when they're made. Funny how things turn out sometimes. To those of you who have been active, who have taken the time to give me the time of day when I've sent offers, I'm thinking about forming a league if the ABL folds. I'll be recruiting active guys to be sure, and I think we'll skip the prize renewal. It'll be a competitive league where tanking is most definitely discouraged and one where owners who let offers sit won't be back at renewal, for sure.

[Edited on 7-10-2009 by lemaster]


True...I can see that as being a consequence. I think it turns the league into a far too cyclical system..

Well, if it does fold, I would be interested in joining. I know I let some offers sit sometimes but I would surely have a lot of interest in joining the league.
INDIANSFORLIFE

July 12, 2009 at 08:18PM View BBCode

Chicago NL is currently out of town, might explain his inactivity...also, he's been working a lot of hours at a new job..not giving excuses just saying.

I agree with YAR about the initial draft though...I love it...
INDIANSFORLIFE

July 12, 2009 at 08:19PM View BBCode

and I also agree that Im going to miss my team...I like all the prospects Im gathering and think we would be pretty good down the line..
Svvamprat

July 13, 2009 at 03:29AM View BBCode

I said this league needed a lifesaver to stay afloat so I'm going to toss out an idea that could be a liferaft. Drastically change the rules of the league for next cycle.

CP system 3, curved player developement, new retirement system, anti tanking rules and so on.

How many leaving would stay if the rules changed next cycle? And how many staying would leave if the rules changed?
MonkeyMook

July 13, 2009 at 03:50AM View BBCode

Originally posted by Svvamprat
I said this league needed a lifesaver to stay afloat so I'm going to toss out an idea that could be a liferaft. Drastically change the rules of the league for next cycle.

CP system 3, curved player developement, new retirement system, anti tanking rules and so on.

How many leaving would stay if the rules changed next cycle? And how many staying would leave if the rules changed?


I am in for whatever keeps the league going!

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