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dirtdevil
April 15, 2015 at 01:26PM View BBCode
I'm not sure that's a good idea, chris. as much as dislike the idea in it's entirety, I think you either need to do all leagues or none. having different scales between football and baseball would be bad enough. having different scales in different leagues in the same game would be a disaster. people would be trading/drafting guys based on the scales in one league only to find that the letters/numbers didn't mean what they thought. you'd have trade protests, requests for do-overs, people wanting drafts re-run, it would be chaos.
geosfreddy
I LIKE THE IMPROVEMENT MECHANISM AS IS -- I does allow for uncertainty in how long your player takes to bump up. But that 15 point spread between 2 grades is really too much when it comes to the draft It makes it a shot in the dark lets say you get a B+ run blocking DT who is just 1 point better than B. or a B+ pwr arm just a point over B. "yes we will here about combine etc" thats fine
BUT BUT BUT
Like I said two B+ guys at 15 pts that make a whopping 20% + Difference on the same player identical letter attribute (far too much looking at the %). like throwing a dart in the dark for my comfort. Cutting it like Chris says will not cause confusion at all if league Comishes keep their leagues well informed once we know these are going into effect. As comish I always let every player keep up to date.
April 15, 2015 at 05:41PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
I don't like it, personally. for one thing it's going to change the ratings of every player we've been dealing with on all of our teams overnight, which is going to cause chaos. also, as chris said, the different scales going back and forth will be annoying/confusing.
I like that it's not linear now, that you can't count improves to pin down numbers. I like the uncertainty and I think that's good for the game. one of the main issues with baseball is it's too predictable. after having deliberately created a system that removed that issue, why do we want to go back?
I just really think that we're trying to fix something that isn't broken. this game is both easier and harder to pick up than baseball. it's far easier and more intuitive to start- the learning curve to the point of having early success is much more flat than baseball. at the same time their are more intricacies that reward those who put in more time. I think that's a perfect balance. we should keep that, not dumb it down.
I think this is a terrible idea, to be honest.
I LIKE THE IMPROVEMENT MECHANISM AS IS -- I does allow for uncertainty in how long your player takes to bump up. But that 15 point spread between 2 grades is really too much when it comes to the draft It makes it a shot in the dark lets say you get a B+ run blocking DT who is just 1 point better than B. or a B+ pwr arm just a point over B. "yes we will here about combine etc" thats fine
BUT BUT BUT
Like I said two B+ guys at 15 pts that make a whopping 20% + Difference on the same player identical letter attribute (far too much looking at the %). like throwing a dart in the dark for my comfort. Cutting it like Chris says will not cause confusion at all if league Comishes keep their leagues well informed once we know these are going into effect. As comish I always let every player keep up to date.
dirtdevil
you're wrong, I think. it's not only the changeover that's the issue, it's the ongoing differences. if all leagues aren't switched you're always going to have guys coming from one league into another. after a while, everyone in a league will be used to their system and just take it as a given. but someone coming in from the other style won't and that will create difficulties. we experience the same thing periodically in the baseball salary leagues, so believe me, I know.
the other thing is, no matter how much the commish tries to keep people in the loop, there are always people who don't read things, or don't understand what they've read.
I just don't see the system we have now as being any kind of issue. as I said, I like the uncertainty. it means that sometimes, some picks bust. that never happens in baseball and it will happen a lot less if you narrow the ratings. the game would lose in doing that, imo.
April 15, 2015 at 06:58PM View BBCode
Originally posted by geosfreddy
Cutting it like Chris says will not cause confusion at all if league Comishes keep their leagues well informed once we know these are going into effect. As comish I always let every player keep up to date.
you're wrong, I think. it's not only the changeover that's the issue, it's the ongoing differences. if all leagues aren't switched you're always going to have guys coming from one league into another. after a while, everyone in a league will be used to their system and just take it as a given. but someone coming in from the other style won't and that will create difficulties. we experience the same thing periodically in the baseball salary leagues, so believe me, I know.
the other thing is, no matter how much the commish tries to keep people in the loop, there are always people who don't read things, or don't understand what they've read.
I just don't see the system we have now as being any kind of issue. as I said, I like the uncertainty. it means that sometimes, some picks bust. that never happens in baseball and it will happen a lot less if you narrow the ratings. the game would lose in doing that, imo.
geosfreddy
April 15, 2015 at 08:00PM View BBCode
No one is right or wrong. Is this why we have the alpha - zeta leagues to try and then give our feed back? No one wants these differences it opens the can of worms you mentioned and that is a bad thing.
dirtdevil
April 15, 2015 at 08:24PM View BBCode
yeah, sorry, I re-wrote that a couple of times and a couple parts from two different versions got mashed together at the beginning and I didn't notice until after I posted. it was supposed to just start with the second sentence. sorry.Pages: 1 2