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| Poll: Peyton Manning | |
|---|---|
| sucks | 0 |
| really sucks | 0 |
| is OVERRATED | 5 |
indychris3
January 09, 2005 at 04:43AM View BBCode
yeah and how do you think peyton manning sucks.. they made it to the playoffs... i swar i can argue tht
happy
January 09, 2005 at 07:28AM View BBCode
pyten maning iz god becyes he iz in teh plaoyfs. so iz teh gr8 bkup QB J. Sorgi. he iz gud 2.
gmclaws
January 09, 2005 at 07:36AM View BBCode
Holmgren will get another job if nothing more than an offensive coordinator or quarterbacks coach. What's the difference with Manning with the Colts and Aiken with the Cowboys? Other than the fact you put up a lopsided poll on a QB that has had a great year and you don't like.
happy
January 09, 2005 at 07:37AM View BBCode
Peyton Manning is good, one of the greatest, and not overrated. some people think (HAHAHAHAHHA) Tom Brady is better than him. i dont know if this is because Tom Brady is just SO overrated that this can happen despite overrating Manning, or if it means Manning isnt overrated.
gmclaws
January 09, 2005 at 08:19AM View BBCode
And I guess that would make Trent Dilfer a great QB because he has won a superbowl. That would be the biggest crock in the game.
happy
[Edited on 1-9-2005 by happy]
January 09, 2005 at 08:29AM View BBCode
basing ability on having a team that is in the playoffs is just stupid, which GMClaws seems to know. That was kinda the point of my statement at the top of this page if i didnt make it obvious enough.[Edited on 1-9-2005 by happy]
whiskybear
Holmgren is one of the most miserable coaches in the business. Brett Favre made him what he is today, which is a fat, slow man with a bad moustache.
January 09, 2005 at 09:12AM View BBCode
Originally posted by indychris3
no he is going to get re hired he is a good coach...
Holmgren is one of the most miserable coaches in the business. Brett Favre made him what he is today, which is a fat, slow man with a bad moustache.
chamberlien
and I am not even a Peyton fan
January 09, 2005 at 03:13PM View BBCode
answer to poll...none of the above. Peyton will prove to be one of THEE best QB's if not overall player in NFL history!and I am not even a Peyton fan
anjo25
January 09, 2005 at 03:36PM View BBCode
indychris, please stop the one word posting and the yha...please...:(
whiskybear
Yha, Byung-Hyun Kim wil half to seddle for nummber two.
January 11, 2005 at 01:26AM View BBCode
Originally posted by kingjames0405
peyton is #1
Yha, Byung-Hyun Kim wil half to seddle for nummber two.
ABDREW
January 11, 2005 at 01:31AM View BBCode
even if you aren't a COlts fan I would think you have to admit that Manning is one of the most talented and intelligent QBs' in the NFL
whiskybear
Absolutely. No doubt about it. But he isn't the best quarterback in the NFL, and his record was helped a great deal by play-calling and a rule change that benefited quarterbacks.
1-Mississippi! 2-Mississippi, 3-Miss---oh crap, there goes touchdown pass number eight. Boy, Tags sure loves the passing game, eh anonymous pass-rushing friend?
January 11, 2005 at 01:34AM View BBCode
Originally posted by ABDREW
even if you aren't a COlts fan I would think you have to admit that Manning is one of the most talented and intelligent QBs' in the NFL
Absolutely. No doubt about it. But he isn't the best quarterback in the NFL, and his record was helped a great deal by play-calling and a rule change that benefited quarterbacks.
1-Mississippi! 2-Mississippi, 3-Miss---oh crap, there goes touchdown pass number eight. Boy, Tags sure loves the passing game, eh anonymous pass-rushing friend?
ABDREW
My 5 would be in no specific order:
Manning
Culpepper
McNabb
Brady
Hasslebeck (only because Vick just doesn't run an offense that well yet)
January 11, 2005 at 01:50AM View BBCode
I'm not sure if you can pick a THE BEST QB in the league right now. Everyone seems to have something that they do best. I would say you could take about 5 of them throw them in a hat and just pick from thereMy 5 would be in no specific order:
Manning
Culpepper
McNabb
Brady
Hasslebeck (only because Vick just doesn't run an offense that well yet)
whiskybear
January 11, 2005 at 02:00AM View BBCode
I agree with four of those guys, but Hasselbeck is a chump. I'd take Vick just because of the X-factor. Jake Delhomme doesn't get enough credit for helping to key that late run by Carolina, either.
skierdude44
January 11, 2005 at 12:06PM View BBCode
Peyton is obviously a great QB but as Whisky suggested he was helped by the rule change regarding defensive backs jamming receivers. That is what got him the record (along with his talent obviously). But don't forget what happened to him last year against the Pats in the playoffs when Ty Law picked him off 3 times. This was when the old coverage rule was in effect and his receivers were being mugged. Under the old rules he could be contained by a good defense but now... well maybe if that defense says 10 hail marys before the game they MIGHT have a outside shot of somewhat containing him.
Jizzy
Of course Peyton does call a lot of the plays.
January 12, 2005 at 04:46PM View BBCode
Originally posted by prvev
Haha. A little overrated, but doesn't suck. Touchdown passes are overrated, but he did have a good completion percentage, and a lot of passing yards (some of that is because of play calling, but eh).
Of course Peyton does call a lot of the plays.
alphabetagaga
Hence my arguement of why Eli will end up being better than big brother. BUT, thanks to the revised rules concerning defensive backs, Manning has just mowed through the opposition because he has basically been given the time to find the open receiver, because, well, the receivers are usually WIDE OPEN. In years past, you would expect an over/under of 20 TDs on Manning, with a TD pass or two, if you were lucky. But then, if you're d-backs were aggressive, maybe an INT or 3 as well. The rule revisions seem to be made almost exclusively to benefit Manning.
Regardless, I will give praise where praise is due. Manning did break a record I doubted would ever be broken, and he led his team the whole way. He disregarded comments about him being selfish, only looking to get wins for his team, and get his ring. All of these arguements about rules changes, etc., are all peripheral to him. My hat's off to you, Peyton.
January 12, 2005 at 07:31PM View BBCode
I think Peyton is probably the best of the old-school, drop back in the pocket, scan through EVERY POSSIBLE FRIGGIN CHECK OFF, throw away the ball or get sacked looking the other way QBs. I've pointed this out in other threads, Peyton doesn't have any kind of ability to elude pressure in the pocket. Sort of Bledsoe-esque, standing like a statue in the pocket, always looking away right when pressure is coming down on him. Brady, Culpepper, McNabb, Roethlisberger, hell, even Harrington and Hasslebeck, are aware within the pocket, roll away from pressure, and generally avoid the issues that Manning (and other Bledsoe-esque QBs find themselves in).Hence my arguement of why Eli will end up being better than big brother. BUT, thanks to the revised rules concerning defensive backs, Manning has just mowed through the opposition because he has basically been given the time to find the open receiver, because, well, the receivers are usually WIDE OPEN. In years past, you would expect an over/under of 20 TDs on Manning, with a TD pass or two, if you were lucky. But then, if you're d-backs were aggressive, maybe an INT or 3 as well. The rule revisions seem to be made almost exclusively to benefit Manning.
Regardless, I will give praise where praise is due. Manning did break a record I doubted would ever be broken, and he led his team the whole way. He disregarded comments about him being selfish, only looking to get wins for his team, and get his ring. All of these arguements about rules changes, etc., are all peripheral to him. My hat's off to you, Peyton.