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FrankFrancisco
October 14, 2005 at 07:12AM View BBCode
I would just throw a chair at the ump if I had been traded to the Angles...
sycophantman
October 14, 2005 at 12:07PM View BBCode
If I wasn't rooting for the White Sox, this whole thing might bother me a little, but as it stands, HAHA!!
yankeekid
Andrews not "cool"? I'm not saying he is, but hes an angels fan with a high rating.
October 14, 2005 at 12:55PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Fair enough, from the only cool (as far as I can remember) Angels fan on this board.
Andrews not "cool"? I'm not saying he is, but hes an angels fan with a high rating.
sycophantman
October 14, 2005 at 12:59PM View BBCode
Indeed, and not hearing from him for a while leads me to believe he's probably beating small puppies in frustration over that second game...
FuriousGiorge
I was referring to Andrew, Jeter.
October 14, 2005 at 02:42PM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Fair enough, from the only cool (as far as I can remember) Angels fan on this board.
Andrews not "cool"? I'm not saying he is, but hes an angels fan with a high rating.
I was referring to Andrew, Jeter.
indychris3
Another thing that bugs me is that Mike the angels coach used to be a catcher and he of all people know that a catcher knows whether they cought the ball or not. If Paul cought it he would have done like he did but if he didn't he would of taged the guy like he did to the first batter of the inning i think. or maybe the second whatever i know it happened once. So i think the umpire should have considered that.
also if any of you guys watched the game and heard AJ at the end in his interview you would have been able to tell he was lying to the camera. he got all nervous and knew the guy cought the ball so he went off of it kinda to what the umpiers did or didn't do.
I think the angels will take 2 out of 3 in there stadium and going down to a game 7 in chicago. You never know. Just sucks that we have to have a call like this blow a playoff game.
October 14, 2005 at 03:07PM View BBCode
What gets me so mad is that the umpire stuck his arm up in the air as strike 3. When i play baseball and this happens the umpirs doesn't do anything, he just stands there until we run to first or walk to the bench.Another thing that bugs me is that Mike the angels coach used to be a catcher and he of all people know that a catcher knows whether they cought the ball or not. If Paul cought it he would have done like he did but if he didn't he would of taged the guy like he did to the first batter of the inning i think. or maybe the second whatever i know it happened once. So i think the umpire should have considered that.
also if any of you guys watched the game and heard AJ at the end in his interview you would have been able to tell he was lying to the camera. he got all nervous and knew the guy cought the ball so he went off of it kinda to what the umpiers did or didn't do.
I think the angels will take 2 out of 3 in there stadium and going down to a game 7 in chicago. You never know. Just sucks that we have to have a call like this blow a playoff game.
FuriousGiorge
It's not his problem. He ran out the play - if the umpires screwed up, that's not his fault.
October 14, 2005 at 03:11PM View BBCode
Originally posted by indychris3
also if any of you guys watched the game and heard AJ at the end in his interview you would have been able to tell he was lying to the camera. he got all nervous and knew the guy cought the ball so he went off of it kinda to what the umpiers did or didn't do.
It's not his problem. He ran out the play - if the umpires screwed up, that's not his fault.
indychris3
October 14, 2005 at 03:15PM View BBCode
I understand that, this whole this just has gotten me really mad, reminds me of the cubs fan interferce miss call last year.
sycophantman
October 14, 2005 at 03:21PM View BBCode
Indychris, you're going to play PLINKO for the chance to win $50,000 dollars!!
JollyGreenGiant
October 14, 2005 at 04:31PM View BBCode
Awww.. he missed the $10,000 slot EVERY time. What a loser.
Isaiah4110
indy, how much time did the Cubs have to win that game? Quit blaming Bartman for the Cubs loss. The CUBS lost the game. It wasn't Bartman's fault. The same thing applies here. Who didn't play until the proverbial whistle, or in this case the verbal call from the ump? Don't tell me the ump signaled he was out because Paul couldn't have seen it AND those gestures could have easily been saying that Perzynski missed on the swing (the arm straight out) and that it was strike three (the fist in front). In that case he would have never called him you with what he signaled even. Who threw Crede 3 straight meatballs? Was that the ump? The ANGELS lost the game. It wasn't the ump's fault, even <b>IF</b> it was a bad call. Bad calls happen all the time in every sport. It's part of the game and they go both ways.
Did no one notice the change in the direction the ball was going right before it hit Paul's glove? Why does no one want to consider the fact that it could have been the right call?
October 14, 2005 at 06:22PM View BBCode
Originally posted by indychris3
I understand that, this whole this just has gotten me really mad, reminds me of the cubs fan interferce miss call last year.
indy, how much time did the Cubs have to win that game? Quit blaming Bartman for the Cubs loss. The CUBS lost the game. It wasn't Bartman's fault. The same thing applies here. Who didn't play until the proverbial whistle, or in this case the verbal call from the ump? Don't tell me the ump signaled he was out because Paul couldn't have seen it AND those gestures could have easily been saying that Perzynski missed on the swing (the arm straight out) and that it was strike three (the fist in front). In that case he would have never called him you with what he signaled even. Who threw Crede 3 straight meatballs? Was that the ump? The ANGELS lost the game. It wasn't the ump's fault, even <b>IF</b> it was a bad call. Bad calls happen all the time in every sport. It's part of the game and they go both ways.
Did no one notice the change in the direction the ball was going right before it hit Paul's glove? Why does no one want to consider the fact that it could have been the right call?
andrew
:lol:
Skier IV doesn't understand multiple screen names...
October 14, 2005 at 08:02PM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Fair enough, from the only cool (as far as I can remember) Angels fan on this board.
Andrews not "cool"? I'm not saying he is, but hes an angels fan with a high rating.
:lol:
Skier IV doesn't understand multiple screen names...
yankeekid
October 14, 2005 at 08:08PM View BBCode
Heh... well my brother just told me that it wasn't Andrew and Abdrew that were the same that it was you and drew. Somehow it didn't occur to my small little mind that andrew and drew could possibly be the same person...
BrutusKhan
Now, once I saw the call, I knew the game was over. Crede sucks, but the kid is clutch. Guillen pinch runs, basically announcing the guy is going to steal second, and after going 0-2, Escobar pipes a meatball. The most important mistake made was by Scioscia, who should have realized the call wasn't going to get reversed, and stop trying to win the public debate, and focused on winning the baseball game. He needed to take out Escobar, or talk with him. There wasn't a fan in Chicago who didn't know the game was over once that call was made. And I feel cheated as a fan of a legitimate win.
Agreed. Bogus call, but Paul was a late inning substitute, and not used to this ump. AJ, the starter for the Sox, knew to run, as he said he didn't hear him call him out & the same thing happened to him last year on the Giants(he made it to the dugout). Tells me the Angels got screwed, but really, does a runner on first base with 2 outs give you that big of an advantage you can say a team going into the 10th inning with their starting pitcher on the mound still(noone was warming up), really STOLE a game?
The Angels would do good to move on before it kills any chance they have. I feel with Colon out they are already at a huge disadvantage. Neither team can hit good pitchers well, so I figure the Sox to have 7 strong games from their starters(2 from Contreras, 2 from Buehrle, 2 from Garland, & 1 from Garcia). 7 quality starts in a 7 game series is tough to beat, umps or not.
Doug
October 14, 2005 at 09:36PM View BBCode
I'd like to point out that I think the Ump gave the Angels a needed break. Burhle was still pitching into the 10th inning. What did the Angels do to show they were going to do anything but get dominated by a very good White Sox bullpen after getting dominated by Burhle? I think without the call the Sox win in like 15 innings, and the Angels are completely depleted, but obviously, you'd like to have that chance. Just don't say the Sox, 99 game winners with their starter on the mound stole anything.Now, once I saw the call, I knew the game was over. Crede sucks, but the kid is clutch. Guillen pinch runs, basically announcing the guy is going to steal second, and after going 0-2, Escobar pipes a meatball. The most important mistake made was by Scioscia, who should have realized the call wasn't going to get reversed, and stop trying to win the public debate, and focused on winning the baseball game. He needed to take out Escobar, or talk with him. There wasn't a fan in Chicago who didn't know the game was over once that call was made. And I feel cheated as a fan of a legitimate win.
Agreed. Bogus call, but Paul was a late inning substitute, and not used to this ump. AJ, the starter for the Sox, knew to run, as he said he didn't hear him call him out & the same thing happened to him last year on the Giants(he made it to the dugout). Tells me the Angels got screwed, but really, does a runner on first base with 2 outs give you that big of an advantage you can say a team going into the 10th inning with their starting pitcher on the mound still(noone was warming up), really STOLE a game?
The Angels would do good to move on before it kills any chance they have. I feel with Colon out they are already at a huge disadvantage. Neither team can hit good pitchers well, so I figure the Sox to have 7 strong games from their starters(2 from Contreras, 2 from Buehrle, 2 from Garland, & 1 from Garcia). 7 quality starts in a 7 game series is tough to beat, umps or not.
Doug
yankeekid
I understand the point you were making but to say the ump gave the ANGELS a needed break is really pushing it. You cannot say that that ump gave the Angels a break without a time machine that will prove they would have lost that game and tired out their pitchers more then the White Sox did theres so as to give them a break...
October 14, 2005 at 10:48PM View BBCode
Originally posted by BrutusKhan
I'd like to point out that I think the Ump gave the Angels a needed break.
I understand the point you were making but to say the ump gave the ANGELS a needed break is really pushing it. You cannot say that that ump gave the Angels a break without a time machine that will prove they would have lost that game and tired out their pitchers more then the White Sox did theres so as to give them a break...
BrutusKhan
It was my gut feeling before that play we weren't scoring in the bottom of the 9th, and we would win in like 15, and Buehle was going to have one of the great playoff games of all time, going 10 maybe 11.
So, if I believe that, then I would think they caught a break. Now, I went out of my way to babble on how they got screwed, and there really is no way of knowing, and no sane Angel fan would just quit & say they lost.
My bigger point was the Sox stole nothing. It's GAMETIME now though.
I'm hoping for 7 game series, as you just can't beat that kind of excitement, especially when you only get the chance every fricken 5 years or so to even be in the playoffs, and every 100 to go anywhere!!!!
Best of luck guys,
Doug
October 14, 2005 at 11:22PM View BBCode
Well, my point is, I think the ump gave them a break, not I know he did.It was my gut feeling before that play we weren't scoring in the bottom of the 9th, and we would win in like 15, and Buehle was going to have one of the great playoff games of all time, going 10 maybe 11.
So, if I believe that, then I would think they caught a break. Now, I went out of my way to babble on how they got screwed, and there really is no way of knowing, and no sane Angel fan would just quit & say they lost.
My bigger point was the Sox stole nothing. It's GAMETIME now though.
I'm hoping for 7 game series, as you just can't beat that kind of excitement, especially when you only get the chance every fricken 5 years or so to even be in the playoffs, and every 100 to go anywhere!!!!
Best of luck guys,
Doug
jayhawkercory
October 15, 2005 at 12:46AM View BBCode
There's no way that the call helped out LAA, do you think Buerhle was gonna go 15??? If he went that long, he wouldn't be available until MAYBE game 7, which would screw their rotation up. I think that after the 10th, Ozzie would have brought in somebody like Marte, he would have given up a run, and k-rod would have come in and shut the door. The angels have the better bullpen, so i think that the angels would have won in extras. One more thing, I think it's Scosia's(sp???) fault that they lost, he shouldn't have left Escobar in there so long, or he could have atleast talked to him. That's just my 2 cents.
yankeekid
I'm assuming "we" means the white sox.
Heh heh, its great being a Yankee fan. Every 100....
October 15, 2005 at 03:03AM View BBCode
Originally posted by BrutusKhan
It was my gut feeling before that play we weren't scoring in the bottom of the 9th, and we would win in like 15, and Buehle was going to have one of the great playoff games of all time, going 10 maybe 11.
I'm assuming "we" means the white sox.
I'm hoping for 7 game series, as you just can't beat that kind of excitement, especially when you only get the chance every fricken 5 years or so to even be in the playoffs, and every 100 to go anywhere!!!!
Best of luck guys,
Doug
Heh heh, its great being a Yankee fan. Every 100....
andrew
Dammit. Just a few hits is all I ask.
October 16, 2005 at 01:52AM View BBCode
I don't mind Joe Buck, I really don't, but he needs to shut up with umpire mistakes stuff. Even if all those calls go the Angels way they are hitting like .180 for the series... Jesus. Figgins is looking horrible. Horrible. Vlad, really bad.Dammit. Just a few hits is all I ask.
sycophantman
Pitiful, if the Angels could mount any kind of consistent offense maybe the fairweather fans in California would be moved to actually get into the game a bit.
[Edited on 10/16/2005 by sycophantman]
October 16, 2005 at 12:58PM View BBCode
I admire your good sense andrew, yet I know that if the White Sox end up winning this series all we'll ever hear from most Angels fans is how "They waz ROBBED!!"Pitiful, if the Angels could mount any kind of consistent offense maybe the fairweather fans in California would be moved to actually get into the game a bit.
[Edited on 10/16/2005 by sycophantman]
yankeekid
October 16, 2005 at 08:49PM View BBCode
I called this White Sox in 6, now all Aneheim has to do is win one game.