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jer2911
The books of Maccabees are considered "Apocrypha" and were only accepted by a few of the early church fathers as authentic. They were never accepted by any Jewish authorities as "inspired" and therefore never added to the Jewish canon... yet somehow at the Council of Trent they were added to the canon. In a nutshell, what happened was during debates with Martin Luther Roman Catholics quoted Maccabees in suport of prayer for the dead. Luther and Protestants following him challenged the canonicity of that book, citing the New Testament, early church Fathers, and Jewish teachers for support. The Council of Trent responded by canonizing most of Apocrypha. It is particularly suspicious because one of the rejected books (2 Esdras) contains a verse strongly against praying for the dead. Even some Catholi "higher-ups" did not approve of this instant canonization, but I will leave the rest of this up to you...
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I got my username from a verse in the Bible, Jeremiah 29:11. "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD , "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. "
September 24, 2003 at 01:42AM View BBCode
The Book of Macabees isn't in the Bible.
The Book of Maccabees is in my Bible, I have a Catholic one, its one that not included in the King James version used by most Protestants.
The books of Maccabees are considered "Apocrypha" and were only accepted by a few of the early church fathers as authentic. They were never accepted by any Jewish authorities as "inspired" and therefore never added to the Jewish canon... yet somehow at the Council of Trent they were added to the canon. In a nutshell, what happened was during debates with Martin Luther Roman Catholics quoted Maccabees in suport of prayer for the dead. Luther and Protestants following him challenged the canonicity of that book, citing the New Testament, early church Fathers, and Jewish teachers for support. The Council of Trent responded by canonizing most of Apocrypha. It is particularly suspicious because one of the rejected books (2 Esdras) contains a verse strongly against praying for the dead. Even some Catholi "higher-ups" did not approve of this instant canonization, but I will leave the rest of this up to you...
----- Back to the original thread topic -----
I got my username from a verse in the Bible, Jeremiah 29:11. "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD , "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. "
skierdude44
September 24, 2003 at 07:58PM View BBCode
kwanzaa is a holiday celebrated by african americans honoring their african roots and culture as well as family. it is NOT just away for them to get gifts and not have to celebrate christmas. the gifts r hand made and there is a lot of celebration with families. it is not a comercial thing that stores use to make more money.
happy
September 24, 2003 at 09:57PM View BBCode
if a september 11th holiday became a holiday for people who dont have any religions to buy presents for each other, then i would say that was dumb too. Kwanzaa is dumb. Skier thinks everything is good if it is for blacks or something, he is like the opposite of a racist, like a reverse racist, except he doesnt love blacks, hate whites, he just is all scary about loving black tradition or something, and if anyone else says it is dumb, then they are racist, i dont know if i can totally explain what he is doing by saying all this dumb stuff. whatever.
skierdude44
September 24, 2003 at 10:33PM View BBCode
happy do u kno anything about kwanzaa? i do. they teach it to us all the way thru middle school as part of a tolerance program. u seem to b saying that if u dont agree with my way then u r wrong. u make up stats that u sware r rite but then wont look them up to back up wut u r saying. im not saying that u have to agree with someone elses beliefs but u should respect them. mayb ppl who celebrate kwanzaa think that christians made up a story about a guy who saved the world that wuz born on december 25 2003 years ago so that they could buy gifts for eachother. see it goes both ways. y dont u say i dont agree with the concepts of kwanzaa but i respect the ppl who celebrate it. or say i dont kno anything about kwanzaa so i cant make judgments about it cuz i would just b guessing. i think that the second is true in ur case happy.
BravesLuver
September 25, 2003 at 03:14PM View BBCode
9/11 should not be a holiday. Holidays you celebrate/commemerate. Nothing to celebrate about 9/11.
FuriousGiorge
September 25, 2003 at 04:38PM View BBCode
Yeah, but there's something to commemorate. It's the same thing with Memorial Day. Not every holiday has to be fireworks, beer and/or football. Sometimes it's okay for people to memorialize something that happened by just reflecting.
happy
September 26, 2003 at 05:36PM View BBCode
no, no holiday for september 11th. the government will screw it up. Anyone remember Lee/Jackson/Martin Luthur (i really hoped i spelled luthur right...) King Jr day? that was genious by the government, of course if you watch gods and generals you will think that the south was fighting to free the slaves in the north.
BravesLuver
September 26, 2003 at 07:00PM View BBCode
True Giorge, but now, some kids just thing memorial day and say "Schools off!" They fail to realize WHY school is off. It's bad.
disciple
September 26, 2003 at 07:32PM View BBCode
A long time ago there were some guys who didn't have a penny to their name and didn't have much, if any, education. One day a really cool and together cat arrived on the scene and called these regular guys to follow him and forget their previous lives. He called them "fishers of men" and also "disciples". This is where my username calls from.
FuriousGiorge
Which is all a way of saying, of course most children don't realize the true significance of a holiday. That isn't a reason to not have holidays for significant events, and 9/11 was pretty significant. And keep in mind that most children never lived through a real war, so don't really understand what Memorial day means, but I would bet most children know quite a bit about what happened on 9/11. Even zombie children.
September 26, 2003 at 07:55PM View BBCode
If nuclear holocaust happens tomorrow, and the surviving people all get turned into zombies like in the Omega Man, and then the zombies band together and form a new society with schools and hospitals, and turn September 27 into a day of remembrance of the holocaust where all the zombie children get out of school, then those zombie children won't reflect on the events of Sept. 27, they'll say, yay, we're out of school, braaaaaaiiiiiinnnnsssss.Which is all a way of saying, of course most children don't realize the true significance of a holiday. That isn't a reason to not have holidays for significant events, and 9/11 was pretty significant. And keep in mind that most children never lived through a real war, so don't really understand what Memorial day means, but I would bet most children know quite a bit about what happened on 9/11. Even zombie children.
skierdude44
September 26, 2003 at 08:15PM View BBCode
furious is rite. u kno wut i really dont kno the meaning of memorial day except wut i can gather from the name but that is mainly bcuz i didnt live thru it. i will never forget september 11 bcuz i lived thru it and i wuz old enuff then to understand kind of wut happened.
happy
September 29, 2003 at 06:57PM View BBCode
yeah, well the government will screw it up, like i said before, and probably there will be a holiday on september 11th, and i will think "yay, i get out of work"
youngallstar
August 12, 2004 at 08:35PM View BBCode
Im young and im an allstar! oh yeah, the Braves are never going to win another world series!
whiskybear
August 12, 2004 at 08:36PM View BBCode
My nickname is what my friends actually call me--Whiskybear, with the foolishness to consume 15 shots of whisky in about 3 hours, and the strength to push his hand, palm open, through a double-paned weather window, not because he was angry, but because he was trying to open it.
hobos
Back to the Off Topic topic of this topic, which is in off topic. Kwanzaa isn't a holiday. Don't believe me? Then ask 95% of African Americans. If I went to South Central in December, I guaruntee you that no one is celebrating it
August 12, 2004 at 09:30PM View BBCode
hobos is technically a mistake. My name should be kingofthehobos but I started using hobos and I didn't want to destroy my post count, without my post count I'd be a poor begging rookie like playa:(Back to the Off Topic topic of this topic, which is in off topic. Kwanzaa isn't a holiday. Don't believe me? Then ask 95% of African Americans. If I went to South Central in December, I guaruntee you that no one is celebrating it
sycophantman
August 12, 2004 at 10:01PM View BBCode
I first heard the word 'sycophant' in a Smashing Pumpkins song from 'Adore', I liked the word and have used it for my online avatar, everywhere, ever since...
sycophantman
August 12, 2004 at 10:02PM View BBCode
Will Unclescam come along and identify the exact song? Set your watches people...
youngallstar
August 12, 2004 at 10:05PM View BBCode
Ahh my best summer ever was the Summer Adore came out. I was about to enter the tenth grade and I listened to that CD all summer because my friend loves the Pumpkins, riding on top of cars late at night breaking into Very expensive not yet lived in but allready finished houses ahhhhh good times indeed!!!!!!!
sycophantman
I lived ith a friend that worked at Disney World, so I got to hear about all the depraved inner workings of that hellhole...
Good stuff.
August 12, 2004 at 10:07PM View BBCode
I was in Florida that summer, good times.I lived ith a friend that worked at Disney World, so I got to hear about all the depraved inner workings of that hellhole...
Good stuff.
Unclescam777
August 13, 2004 at 12:15AM View BBCode
My username is from a poster I have on my wall. It's a picture of Unclesam holding a gun and it's titled Unclescam. I was looking at the poster the day I made my sn, and since it follows my beliefs the name stuck
Duff77
Duff, as I'm sure I stated earlier in this thread, is a name I've used since high school. It sprang from my short-lived affinty for Guns n' Roses bassist Duff McKagan. It has nothing to do with Duff Beer or The Simpsons.
August 13, 2004 at 04:01AM View BBCode
Wow, what an old thread. This was from back in the bad old days, when happy was super-annoying.Duff, as I'm sure I stated earlier in this thread, is a name I've used since high school. It sprang from my short-lived affinty for Guns n' Roses bassist Duff McKagan. It has nothing to do with Duff Beer or The Simpsons.
Cubsfan13
August 13, 2004 at 04:12AM View BBCode
If you want to read a really annoying old thread, go and read Hollywood. Thats great stuff.
Oak_qx2
August 13, 2004 at 04:14AM View BBCode
Well, I came up w/ the '_qx2' part when trying to think of something original. I have no idea how I ended up having different trees be the front part.
Ignite
Once Upon A Time, Everybody Of My Friends Had Nicknames, I Deciced To Have One Too, So I Wasted Two Weeks, Spending On Thinking, One Day I Was Bored, I Saw A Lighter, I Took It Up And Ignited It, Then Something Happend In My Head, After A Little "Crackbrainery"(No Such Word) I Discovered That Was My Name!
August 13, 2004 at 06:07PM View BBCode
My Name? If This Is Serious:Once Upon A Time, Everybody Of My Friends Had Nicknames, I Deciced To Have One Too, So I Wasted Two Weeks, Spending On Thinking, One Day I Was Bored, I Saw A Lighter, I Took It Up And Ignited It, Then Something Happend In My Head, After A Little "Crackbrainery"(No Such Word) I Discovered That Was My Name!
youngallstar
August 13, 2004 at 06:12PM View BBCode
Were You Igniting A Pipe? Also Can You Type Fast When Capitalizing The First Letter Of Each And Every Word Due To Habit???