September 16, 2005 at 08:09PM View BBCode
saying runs and RBI are garbage stats might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board, or any other, ever, for that matterSeptember 16, 2005 at 08:12PM View BBCode
Runs don't help you score runs. OBP and SLG help you score runs.September 16, 2005 at 08:16PM View BBCode
Originally posted by krusecontrol
saying runs and RBI are garbage stats might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board, or any other, ever, for that matter
September 16, 2005 at 08:18PM View BBCode
But someone actually HAS TO SCORE THE RUN.September 16, 2005 at 08:21PM View BBCode
Originally posted by krusecontrol
But someone actually HAS TO SCORE THE RUN.
If you're scoring runs, that means you're getting on base.
Yes, unless you homer, you need help to score the run.
But runs and driving in those runs, are vital baseball stats.
In pitching, strikeouts are a way overrated stat. I'll take Maddux and his 78-pitch complete games over Randy Johnson and his 118-pitch efforts.
September 16, 2005 at 10:10PM View BBCode
Even as someone who holds firmly to the concept of clutch hitting, I have to say that as stats go, RBIs aren't too telling. It's not that they're totally useless--they're just so dependent on team performance that they can't be used out of context. Slugging percentage is more independant. Though even at that--a players slugging, OBP, etc., is going to depend somewhat on the players around him--especially for power hitters. Bonds' .500+ OBPs, for instance. They're not just because he's good at drawing walks. They were also because he was a fearsome power hitter who was virtually naked in that lineup.September 17, 2005 at 12:27AM View BBCode
OBP is better when adjusted to take out intentional walks. guys hitting 8th in hte NL, for example, will have inflated walk totals because htey will be intentionally walked with two outs so the pitcher will have to bat.September 17, 2005 at 05:03PM View BBCode
Even if you take out intentional walks, you can't adjust OBP for all the times a guy was pitched around. And how often a guy is pitched around depends on how good a hitter he is and how good the hitters are behind him.