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happy was wrong when he said all arabs, its men 18-35 who look arab (since you can only tell by looks) who are most likely to be terrorists, along with those whonlook suspicious (of all races). we cant screen everyone, and we dont want to, we indentify the high-threat people, who are the people who look susicious and those who fit the profile. if you have a choice of searching an 80- yr old woman (race doesnt matter here) or a 25-yr old man (of any race), you search the 25 year old man cause he is much more likely to be a terrorist. now of course you are gonna accuse me of ageism. if you have a black man and an arab-looking man both 25-years old you search the arab one cause he is more likely to be a terrorist. al qaeda is the only terrorist group who has made any significant attack against us here. other terrorist gropus dont like us and make a few minor attacks on us but have objectives other than "kill all americans".
September 20, 2003 at 12:25AM View BBCode
again, ask my former basketball coach who is black, my black friend kene, my indian friends steve, or all the other non-white people i have come in contact with and got along just fine with, or look at teh jerseys i won, Ricky williams who is black and Vladimir Guerrero who is black and hispanic before you say i am in the kkk.happy was wrong when he said all arabs, its men 18-35 who look arab (since you can only tell by looks) who are most likely to be terrorists, along with those whonlook suspicious (of all races). we cant screen everyone, and we dont want to, we indentify the high-threat people, who are the people who look susicious and those who fit the profile. if you have a choice of searching an 80- yr old woman (race doesnt matter here) or a 25-yr old man (of any race), you search the 25 year old man cause he is much more likely to be a terrorist. now of course you are gonna accuse me of ageism. if you have a black man and an arab-looking man both 25-years old you search the arab one cause he is more likely to be a terrorist. al qaeda is the only terrorist group who has made any significant attack against us here. other terrorist gropus dont like us and make a few minor attacks on us but have objectives other than "kill all americans".
skierdude44
September 20, 2003 at 01:10AM View BBCode
ok no u search both the 25 year old black man and the 25 year old arab man. u too said search all arab looking people. and u may not b racist toward indian and blacks but u have definetly shown racism towards arabs.
ME
September 20, 2003 at 01:17AM View BBCode
the gas station i usually go to is owned by an arab, and there is usually an arab guy working there, i dont boycott it cause its owned by an arab, if i wanted to i could cause there are plenty of other places i can go to but i dont.
skierdude44
September 20, 2003 at 01:27AM View BBCode
look eventhough i hate to say it there are a lot of ppl in my family who r atleast mildly racist. they r all on my dad's side. my aunt nancy, schef's mom is the only one out of my grandma and grandpa my 2 uncles my other 2 aunts and my dad who is not at all racist. any way the gas station my dad goes to is owned by an arab and has an arab working there. the guy is very nice and says god bless u when ever u go there but my dad makes fun of him the whole way home and says things like "learn how to speak english freakin arab" refering to his accent. i hate when he does that but my point is my dad goes there despite his feelings towards the guy bcuz it is the cheapest gas station there r 2 rite across the street that he could go to so really ME that proves nothing.
ME
September 20, 2003 at 01:34AM View BBCode
in my area there are tons of gas stations pretty much with the same price. if someone is really a rascist they wouldn't go to one owned by the race they hate. people who dont speak english (any race) can be a problem cause ist hard to know what they are saying. your dad is not really a racist (in this area at least) when he throws in the freaking arab part cause if it was a russian who couldnt speak english he'd be saying the same thing about russians.
skierdude44
September 20, 2003 at 01:37AM View BBCode
no u really dont kno my dad. that is just an example of something that he would say. dont get me wrong his not very racist but it shows sometimes and it is mainly to arabs and hispanics. i mean he and a guy he works with wilton who is black go golfing all the time.
happy
September 20, 2003 at 03:12AM View BBCode
i think the guy from american history X said "im not part of the KKK, its to disorganized" well anyway, call me a racist, ive said like the last 5 times youve called me a racist that im not, but im not fighting it anymore, i dont feel like listening to you whine about your arabian friends and all that. Im called a racist because i point out facts, like when someone said that the death penalty is racist against blacks because more blacks get it, I say, probably they commit more death penalty crimes, which is a fact, not an opinion. People say that the NFL is racist because there arent enough black coaches. lets see, white WRs....Juravicious, white CBs....Sehorn, white RBs....Alstott. obvously there arent many, maybe they are just more qualified. like the lions head coach. i believe in racial profiling, and all around profiling. old 80 year old arabs shouldnt be scanned unless they look suspicious. but if they dont WHY BOTHER THEM. WHY BOTHER MY DAD, i maybe could be a psycho if you look at me, but my dad looks like the kind of guy who would kick some guys ass if they tried to take over the plane. it is just dumb to not have racial profiling. political correctness sucks. It is like McCarthyism, because it is making it so that if anyone says anything that even sounds slightly communism (or racist in this case) then they get pounded. it is BS.
skierdude44
September 20, 2003 at 03:44AM View BBCode
spoken like a true racist happy. there arent that many black coaches in the nfl and there should b more. but anyway racial profiling is unfair. u r treating ppl differently bcuz of there skin color and last name. happy would u b opposed to racial profililng if they used it on whites and no1 else. probably. i kno that i would oppose it if ppl were racial profiling me and i oppose it now when it is not used against me. its not fair to judge ppl by there skin color religion or last name. and skin color isnt always a clear guide to wut race someone is. i am pretty much an even mix i am 25% italian i think 20% irish alittle hungarian alittle english and 2% native american amoung other things. i dont like at all irish im relatively dark skinned as far as whites r concerned and the same goes for my cousin schef. my other cousin his brother is very light skinned and u prolly couldnt tell that he wuz italian based on his skin color and the fact that he doesnt have an italian last name like i do. my little brother has lighter skin than i do. point is that u cant judge ppl by last name and skin color. u may not even b able to figure out wut race they r. my geometry teacher is russian 100% granted both his parents were born here so he doesnt have an accent but he is very dark. he looks black or latino or mayb even like a really dark italian. but he is russian and his last name doesnt sound russian so u would never be able to tell. i wouldnt go making racial accusations happy bcuz some where in ur ancestory u may have been related to an arab and have a little arab blood running in u. i am proud of everything that i am and i believe that u should never insult a race bcuz in a way we r all related so basically all u did is insult urself. and something that always has confused me is that when it wuz written in the constitution that all men r created equal that there were still slaves who werent treated as equals. if u wanna do excessive screening on some ppl at airports but not all ppl do it to those who have criminal records not those who have a different skin color or last name than u. i have friends from almost every race i have friends who r asians arabs blacks whites and latinos. i treat them all equally. i feel that we r all brothers and sisters in some way so i think that if u wouldnt subject ur own "blood" brother to racial profiling y should u subject ur native american brother or black brother or arab brother or asian brother or ur latino brother or ur white brother to it.
happy
September 20, 2003 at 03:58AM View BBCode
to start off, im as white as they come, 100% white, including 25% german, and about 75% scotch irish. I think the germans should have been watched and scrutinized as closly as the japanese were during WWII. people said that it was bad, but if it was handled properly, the Japanese wouldnt have been treated so badly. I am against the japanese internment camps, but I think that if they were treated well, and given a nice place to stay it would have been totally fitting, and the Germans should have had the same thing happen to them. If you can figure out how long someone has been in the country, then you should let the ones who were here for a long time, or were born here go, and Arabs who were born here have as little of a chance of blowing up something as i do, BUT they cant be background checked that quickly, so if they will agree to be checked, that should be fine, not for them, but for the ones who are from out of the country, or who have lived here for a short time. Another thing, lets say that i am the owner of a NFL team, and i think that Black coaches are all around better coaches, then WHY cant i hire all black coaches, i just dont see why. People are being treated differently for all sorts of reasons. Im SORRY, but i wouldnt hire a mentally retarded person to be a brain surgeon, does that mean that i am against retarded people? well, the same goes for head coaches, if an owner thinks a white coach can get it done, and a black coach cant, then who cares, let them get the white coach, dont have some reverse racist rule about being forced to interview a black guy. The colts KNEW that Tony Dungy was the only good coach the year they needed a coach, so he was the only guy they interviewed, because they wanted to jump on the opportunity. No one ever yelled RACIST then, and im not going to be the one to start. Dungy was the best coach. Name any black coaches that should have head coaching jobs, but dont. the fact is, there just arent as many out there for WHATEVER reason.
skierdude44
September 20, 2003 at 03:28PM View BBCode
mentally retarded ppl r not brain surgeons cuz they r incapable of handling that task not bcuz of discrimination. kinda like how u r uncapable of understanding simple ideas like equality. the thing that wuz wrong about how detroit went about hiring steve mariucci is that they never gave anyone else a change whether it wuz a black coach or latino or any other race. that is mainly there loss cuz they may have been able to get some1 bettr but they will never kno.
ME
September 20, 2003 at 11:33PM View BBCode
detroit hired Mariucci bceause he was the BEST GUY AVAILABLE, and everyone knew that. they tried to interview black candidates to follow the NFL's rule but none were willing to interview cause they knew it was just gonna be a token interview and Mariucci was gonna get the job anyways (cause he was a proven good head coach). the bengals hired Marvin Lewis (which was a good hire) because he was the best guy for the job in their opinion, were they racist for not interveiwing any white candidates? the 49ers interviewed tons of guys for their open job and hired Dennis Erickson, not really a great coach. they probably saw a lot of mediocre guys and just hired the best one of them, but if there was a very good black candidate there they didn't hire acuse they were somehow racist then its THEIR LOSS cause their team won't be as good. i don't think this is the case but there is a very small chance it is. the reason the NL was way better than the AL in the 1950s and 1960s was cause the NL had almost all the black and hispanic players, cause they were the good players.
skierdude44
September 21, 2003 at 12:57AM View BBCode
the way i heard it wuz that detroit didnt attempt to interview a black coach.
ME
September 21, 2003 at 01:08AM View BBCode
they called a few up cause they didn't want the fine but no one would agree to an interview cause they knew they had no chance at getting the job.
Meathead44
September 21, 2003 at 01:11AM View BBCode
I don't fault the Lions. They thought Mariucci was the best coach on the market and they didn't want him to get away, so they jumped on it. Race played no part in it.
Anonymous
September 21, 2003 at 04:07AM View BBCode
exactly, but people try to make "equality" by creating inequality. like i said, the coaches out there are the best qualified coaches, and if there are more white coaches for WHATEVER reason people shouldnt complain about it. there are way more black WRs, and black CBs and black HBs. i think from now on a team should have to interview at least 1 white HB, CB or WR before interviewing another one to decide who they want to draft, because OBVIOUSLY it is discrimination. i know equality, and equality says that affirmative action and all of its byproducts are not equal. why are there more black rappers? i mean, since eminem is the best rapper, that must mean that whites would all be the best rappers but they are getting discriminated against. i think people should have to buy 1 CD of white rappers for every CD of black rappers. that would make it equal.
skierdude44
September 21, 2003 at 03:04PM View BBCode
well actually happy they look at a whole bunch of ppl in the nfl combine and watch them work out and test their skills than they put together a list of players that they think would b available at their pick and who they want and fits best into their system. there r more black rappers bcuz rappers come from the ghetto and there r more blacks in the ghetto than there r whites. the way i heard it wuz that the lions only called one person (mariucci) to set up an interview and then immediately hired him after the interview. if wut u say happened wuz true than it wuz fair.
happy
September 21, 2003 at 03:12PM View BBCode
and there are more white coaches because there are more white people in rich communities where people can spend their time thinking about football instead of real work, so i guess that isnt racist either. how come people say that there is racism because there arent enough black defensive line or offensive line, im not sure which, i think offensive line? yes, people do say that. it was that guy that is on PTI with Tony Kornheiser (is that how you spell it) and the same with coaches. Lets say that 50 white people and 50 black people in all of america are REALLY interested in football, but only 40 out of the 50 white guys make it to the NFL while 49 out of the 50 black guys do, because blacks are apparantly better at football. the remaining 11 are the best coaches in the NFL. 10 are white, 1 is black. maybe something along this line happens, but not with these exact figures
happy
September 21, 2003 at 11:58PM View BBCode
yeah, it was a hypothetical situation using arbitrary numbers to make a point. the numbers arent what matter, it is the result of how the numbers turn out that is the point. dumb ass.
skierdude44
September 22, 2003 at 01:17AM View BBCode
or they r numbers that happy makes up cuz he is too lazy to look up real numbers but seems to think that wut ever numbers he makes up r automatically rite.
Schef33
September 23, 2003 at 01:31AM View BBCode
You guys want me to order a boxing ring for the two of you?
happy
September 23, 2003 at 09:10PM View BBCode
HEY, WHY DONT YOU LOOK UP HOW MANY PEOPLE CARE ABOUT FOOTBALL A LOT, IM SURE THERE WOULD BE A FACT OUT THERE! dont you see, there is no way for me too "look up" these numebers. lets see what % of blacks that are in the top 50 of caring about football made it into football. you are just being dumb. I dont think i can dumb this down enough for you to understand it. Ive tried, and tried, and then you say something like "yeah, but you didnt look up these numbers" and i said like 3 times, the point was not the numbers, it was the outcome. it was a possible reason for why there are more white coaches. this may not be the reason, but im THROWING out a possibility
skierdude44
September 24, 2003 at 08:11PM View BBCode
actually happy u mite be able to find something like that if u looked hard enuff. with that being said y dont u look it up since u brought it up. u say things like the o's have been #1 in attendance for the last six years but im not looking it up. well than how the hell do u kno that it is true? it could b something that u just wanted ur self to believe. happy not every stat u make up is rite and u r not rite just cuz u say so.