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ME
This quote is priceless:
"What can I do for my family with $127 million that I can't do with $111 million?" he told The Washington Post.
A little different from Latrell Spreewell "I have a family to feed" when turning down a 3-year, $21M deal a few years ago or Patrick Ewing's "Sure NBA players make a lot of money, but we spend a lot too."
Washington is now guaranteed first or second round playoff exists for the foreseeable future, which the slight chance of a fluke Eastern Conference Finals run or the nonzero chance of getting destroyed by a dominant Western Conference team in the finals.
Gilbert Arenas
July 04, 2008 at 02:08AM View BBCode
Gilbert Arenas resigned with the Wizards on a 6-year, $111M contract, slightly less than he could have gotten with a max-deal with the Wizards or someone else.This quote is priceless:
"What can I do for my family with $127 million that I can't do with $111 million?" he told The Washington Post.
A little different from Latrell Spreewell "I have a family to feed" when turning down a 3-year, $21M deal a few years ago or Patrick Ewing's "Sure NBA players make a lot of money, but we spend a lot too."
Washington is now guaranteed first or second round playoff exists for the foreseeable future, which the slight chance of a fluke Eastern Conference Finals run or the nonzero chance of getting destroyed by a dominant Western Conference team in the finals.
Benne
This is why I love Gilbert.
July 04, 2008 at 07:49AM View BBCode
"What can I do for my family with $127 million that I can't do with $111 million?" he told The Washington Post.
This is why I love Gilbert.
happy
at least thats how I remember the story.
[Edited on 7-7-2008 by happy]
July 07, 2008 at 09:02AM View BBCode
When he first came to the Wizards he said that he chose whether to go to the Wizards or whatever the other team that wanted him by flipping a coin 10 times. Yes... 10.at least thats how I remember the story.
[Edited on 7-7-2008 by happy]
sycophantman
July 07, 2008 at 11:45AM View BBCode
I think the most interesting thing about Gilbert Arenas is how his basketball skill is hardly ever the point. I harbor a secret desire to see him have a career-ending injury, if only to see him take over hosting duties on PTI when Wilbon inevitably keels over from a heart attack.
happy
[Edited on 7-7-2008 by happy]
July 07, 2008 at 02:45PM View BBCode
I could vote for that. Wilbon kind of annoys me anyway, even though he is pretty good in PTI. But id rather we wait till Gilbert's career dies naturally in 20 or 30 years.[Edited on 7-7-2008 by happy]
drunkengoat
This thread has made me laugh out loud here in the comp lab here on base. Thanks for embarrassing me.
July 07, 2008 at 04:43PM View BBCode
HA!This thread has made me laugh out loud here in the comp lab here on base. Thanks for embarrassing me.
ME
July 07, 2008 at 04:47PM View BBCode
Agent Zero is going to bring back the Player-Coach and will be the 12th man on the active roster and the head coach when he's 55.
bobcat73
With his high level of income and advances in modern sceince it's really possible. Bonds could still be playing.
July 08, 2008 at 03:37AM View BBCode
Originally posted by sycophantman
....30 years?
With his high level of income and advances in modern sceince it's really possible. Bonds could still be playing.
sycophantman
July 08, 2008 at 12:49PM View BBCode
Bonds is still playing, but only if you count all-night sessions of WOW as 'playing'...
happy
July 08, 2008 at 04:51PM View BBCode
Bonds would be a top 5 DH if someone was smart enough to hire him.
khazim
July 08, 2008 at 07:41PM View BBCode
If I were Bonds, I would be looking into filing a complaint against MLB for Owner collusion. Regardless of what he did or did not take (Big Noggin, LOL), he has not been barred from playing, so the only reason I can see that he hasn't been hired is all the owners have agreed to let him pass into that good night called retirement.
happy
July 08, 2008 at 07:44PM View BBCode
pretty sure he is already filing a complaint. I thought for sure the As would sign him, then they got Frank Thomas instead.
sycophantman
July 08, 2008 at 08:20PM View BBCode
It is hardly collusion, unless you count the owners referring to Bonds as a huge censored collusion. Look at the Giants, they have almost the exact same record this year as last year. What does Bonds really do for a team? Who really wants that headache? Just on a day to day basis, who would want to have Bonds in their clubhouse all season? By all accounts, he is a huge dick, why bother with that.
happy
and we all know that the exact same giants team plus barry bonds would be doing better. Comparing their record doesnt really seem like a fair assessment of his value.
[Edited on 7-8-2008 by happy]
July 08, 2008 at 08:58PM View BBCode
What does bonds do for a team? Id say the answer is that he had over a .900 OPS last year. Clubhouse effect / chemistry does not affect baseball whatsoever. Sure, if he is a pain in the ass, someone has to deal with him, and maybe you would have to pay money to the guy who is dealing with him, but he is probably worth 8-10 million for a year's worth of work, and no one has even offered him minimum wage. This just seems fishy to me. I mean, the Mariners, (who for whatever reason thought they were going to do something this year) preferred Jose Vidro at their DH slot over him... Are you saying you wouldnt even offer minimum wage to replace Jose Vidro with Barry Bonds?and we all know that the exact same giants team plus barry bonds would be doing better. Comparing their record doesnt really seem like a fair assessment of his value.
[Edited on 7-8-2008 by happy]
FuriousGiorge
July 08, 2008 at 08:59PM View BBCode
Do you really, honestly think that Barry Bonds would take minimum salary, from anyone, to play?
sycophantman
But that is nonsensical. Baseball is still a team sport, so chemistry plays a role, somewhere, somehow, it can't be helped. The team the Giants are fielding this year is largely the same as the one last year, so a comparison of the two teams is really quite fair.
The fact is that there was no guarantee that Bonds could hold up for a season. Proof or not, all the owners probably feel certain that he used steroids and has for a long time, at his age it is an open question whether he could actually make it through a season. As Craig brought up, Bonds wouldn't be playing for minimum, it would be a gamble to sign him considering his large injury risk.
[Edited on 7/8/2008 by sycophantman]
July 08, 2008 at 09:10PM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
What does bonds do for a team? Id say the answer is that he had over a .900 OPS last year. Clubhouse effect / chemistry does not affect baseball whatsoever. Sure, if he is a pain in the ass, someone has to deal with him, and maybe you would have to pay money to the guy who is dealing with him, but he is probably worth 8-10 million for a year's worth of work, and no one has even offered him minimum wage. This just seems fishy to me. I mean, the Mariners, (who for whatever reason thought they were going to do something this year) preferred Jose Vidro at their DH slot over him... Are you saying you wouldnt even offer minimum wage to replace Jose Vidro with Barry Bonds?
and we all know that the exact same giants team plus barry bonds would be doing better. Comparing their record doesnt really seem like a fair assessment of his value.
But that is nonsensical. Baseball is still a team sport, so chemistry plays a role, somewhere, somehow, it can't be helped. The team the Giants are fielding this year is largely the same as the one last year, so a comparison of the two teams is really quite fair.
The fact is that there was no guarantee that Bonds could hold up for a season. Proof or not, all the owners probably feel certain that he used steroids and has for a long time, at his age it is an open question whether he could actually make it through a season. As Craig brought up, Bonds wouldn't be playing for minimum, it would be a gamble to sign him considering his large injury risk.
[Edited on 7/8/2008 by sycophantman]
ME
Chemistry just doesn't matter a whole lot in baseball. Unlike basketball or football, the team's value is close to the value of the sum of its parts.
July 09, 2008 at 02:25AM View BBCode
5 or 10M for a DH would could put up a .280-.450-.500 line is hardly overpaying, and he's not a big injury risk. He can even play the field when neccesary (as he did last year better than Manny Ramirez, Adam Dunn, or Pat Burrell).Chemistry just doesn't matter a whole lot in baseball. Unlike basketball or football, the team's value is close to the value of the sum of its parts.
FuriousGiorge
July 09, 2008 at 02:48AM View BBCode
There are extenuating circumstances with Bonds that go beyond the normal discussions of chemistry.
happy
And wherever I read the quote from Bonds's agent (where he said that he was investigating collusion), he mentioned that no one even offered Bonds minimum wage, so maybe he is willing to accept minimum wage, I dont know.
July 09, 2008 at 03:29AM View BBCode
The generalized baseball authority figures tend to be in conforming opinion that there is absolutely no good reason for bonds to not be in baseball right now. I have not seen a single article by a sabermatics baseball guy that is in disagreement.And wherever I read the quote from Bonds's agent (where he said that he was investigating collusion), he mentioned that no one even offered Bonds minimum wage, so maybe he is willing to accept minimum wage, I dont know.
FuriousGiorge
July 09, 2008 at 03:41AM View BBCode
You don't have to play with him. I don't have to play with him. The "generalized baseball authority figures" don't have to play with him.