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nba all-star game

January 16, 2004 at 01:50AM View BBCode

heres how the votes are doing:

EAST FORWARDS

Vince Carter (Tor.) 1,629,169
Jermaine O'Neal (Ind.) 1,225,350
Kenyon Martin (N.J.) 492,972
Scottie Pippen (Chi.) 272,722
Ron Artest (Ind.) 268,601
Shareef Abdur-Rahim (Atl.) 193,894
Carlos Boozer (Cle.) 176,397
Richard Jefferson (N.J.) 166,219
Toni Kukoc (Mil.) 136,155
Lamar Odom (Mia.) 114,180

EAST GUARDS

Allen Iverson (Phi.) 1,322,327
Tracy McGrady (Orl.) 939,547
Jason Kidd (N.J.) 836,707
LeBron James (Cle.) 577,471
Baron Davis (N.O.) 419,836
Stephon Marbury (N.Y.) 298,911
Paul Pierce (Bos.) 247,892
Reggie Miller (Ind.) 147,215
Chauncey Billups (Det.) 146,909
Gilbert Arenas (Was.) 138,411

EAST CENTERS

Ben Wallace (Det.) 1,465,308
Alonzo Mourning (N.J.) 327,962
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cle.) 284,493
Eddy Curry (Chi.) 132,076

WEST FORWARDS

Kevin Garnett (Min.) 1,305,540
Tim Duncan (S.A.) 1,272,767
Dirk Nowitzki (Dal.) 450,589
Carmelo Anthony (Den.) 427,564
Karl Malone (LAL) 404,244
Peja Stojakovic (Sac.) 318,777
Chris Webber (Sac.) 287,336
Pau Gasol (Mem.) 275,448
Antoine Walker (Dal.) 219,876
Malik Rose (SAS) 153,020

WEST GUARDS

Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,333,262
Steve Francis (Hou.) 727,103
Gary Payton (LAL) 537,132
Steve Nash (Dal.) 461,592
Emanuel Ginobili (S.A.) 440,827
Mike Bibby (Sac.) 346,280
Tony Parker (S.A.) 274,630
Michael Finley (Dal.) 200,677
Ray Allen (Sea.) 187,282
Cuttino Mobley (Hou.) 161,230

WEST CENTERS

Shaquille O'Neal (LAL) 1,115,881
Yao Ming (Hou.) 1,091,997
Brad Miller (Sac.) 175,973
Radoslav Nesterovic (S.A.) 159,321
Vlade Divac (Sac.) 152,574

mourning is retired and still ranks 2nd in east centers. only 3 days left to vote. have fun with this thread(i know it will end up being a discussion over the 2012 olympics mascot but i dont care)

January 16, 2004 at 05:18AM View BBCode

Baron Davis is the best point gaurd (he has played the best so far this season) in all of the NBA. He should be first.

no wizards (realistic). Arenas has been out for a month.

Gotta love the only vote for home team players balloters.

y2slapnutz

January 16, 2004 at 06:14AM View BBCode

Vince freaking Carter gonna be starting again? Scottie freaking Pippen FOURTH? Man... man there must be an abundant of NBA all star voters on CRACK

January 16, 2004 at 06:18AM View BBCode

Carter always makes it cause people who don't know a lot about basketball think he is really good cause he does really cool dunks.

He went down today though. Not sure how long he will be out.

sycophantman

January 16, 2004 at 02:56PM View BBCode

Ever since the vote was put to the public it keeps getting more and more ridiculous...

Cubsfan13

January 17, 2004 at 01:18AM View BBCode

How the hell are Malik Rose and Rasho Nesterovich as high they are? I'm a Spurs fan but Rasho sucks and Malik is having one of his worst years. Damn bandwagon Spurs fans :mad:.

wompfump

January 17, 2004 at 01:32AM View BBCode

vote Sweet 2 my Lou!!! ( Rafer Alston).... JK vote for the actual good players like Dirk and Duncan and KG and people like them, none of those nestos and odoms and junk

wompfump

January 17, 2004 at 01:35AM View BBCode

lol, the #1 rule on the voting page is to vote for your faves not the better players.... if my favorite was Ira Newble does that mean he wins??

C-Webb hasnt even played in a game, just a note and look at where he is!

[Edited on 1-17-2004 by wompfump]

happy

January 18, 2004 at 01:18AM View BBCode

LeBron James (Cle.) 577,471

morons.

he is great for a rookie, but he is not even close to as good as the other guards.

same with Carmelo anthony

sycophantman

January 18, 2004 at 02:47PM View BBCode

Here's my main problem with the NBA all-star game, and MLB for that matter. Why choose in the middle of the season? You're going to reward players for half a season of work?
Football is a little better, but they play the game at the end of the season, when no one really cares...
Here's what you do for all the all-star games. Making voting after the season is over, have the all-star game as the pre-season opener before the start of the next season, when people are most geared up for the sport. That would be cool.

happy

January 19, 2004 at 10:59PM View BBCode

cool, i like it.

of course there is an even better way to do the basketball one. just vote the "all stars" every 4 years, and make them play in the olympics

skierdude44

January 20, 2004 at 12:25AM View BBCode

nice plan syco.

happy

January 21, 2004 at 11:02PM View BBCode

i vote that syco would be a better commish of Bball than Selig. In fact i believe every regular off topic poster would be a better commish than Selig.

Bills4593

January 21, 2004 at 11:12PM View BBCode

the only problem i see is baron davis not in and pao gasol not in either

happy

January 22, 2004 at 12:04AM View BBCode

only problem i see is that basketball sucks now.

sycophantman

January 22, 2004 at 02:11PM View BBCode

I think Basketball will come around, it's just at a real low point right now. So many players come into the league determined to do as little work as possible for as much money as possible.
It'll change though, the rest of the world is catching up to America and soon the majority of the players WON'T be weed-smoking thugs who play zero defense...

happy

January 26, 2004 at 02:33AM View BBCode

I disagree. If foreign nations EVER get enough good sports players to be competitive, then they will stay where they are, and start their own pro league (this will never happen. Black people are the best at basketball for whatever reason, and i cant see Africa Africans playing basketball when they are starving)

January 26, 2004 at 03:58AM View BBCode

They need to havea rule like the NFL to stop high schoolers from coming in. A few High schoolers are ready, but most aren't. 2 years of college minimum. It would make college worth watching befoer the tournament too.

sycophantman

January 26, 2004 at 04:08AM View BBCode

It wouldn't work for the NBA, it's all about the stars. the NFL can make someone like Maurice Clarett stay out until a certain age because the league can survive not having him as soon as possible, and will be better off for having waited.

jigakoeochiro

January 26, 2004 at 06:06AM View BBCode

about lebron: he's one of the best in the game already and he's just 19. dont put lebron down he's about where he should be.

arodtoo

January 26, 2004 at 06:20AM View BBCode

Yeah lebrons stats speak for themselves, 20 ppg, 6 assists, and 6 rebounds a game. Thoese aren't starter worthy, but they should get him a trip to the all-star game. I read somewhere that only like 3 rookies have ever had 20-6-6 numbers as a rookie. He has definitly earned himself a spot on the east, he might not have made it in the west because the west has some real talent, but in the east i think almost anyone could make it. Hate to state the truth, but the east sucks, the atlantic confrence has 1 team over .500(nets).

happy

January 26, 2004 at 05:45PM View BBCode

well it is kinda easy to make 20 PPG when everyone else on your team totally sucks

Ranks 3rd in the NBA in turnovers/game
Ranks 9th in field goals attempted/game

FG% .417
3P% .273
FT% .765

PPG isnt telling the whole story. he is taking a lot of shots, and turning the ball over alot. Not to mention he isnt to great at the free throw line, or from 3 point range.

skierdude44

January 26, 2004 at 07:01PM View BBCode

its hard to score when ur team sux also. i mean look at that team, its full of selfish players, even without ricky davis. how r u supposed to get the ball when each guy out there wants to take all the shots. he isnt an all star starter and is a borderline allstar but he definetly deserves to be in the nba. but there are so many players coming in from high school that dont belong. kwame brown and kendrick perkins are good examples. maybe the nba should put a rule in that states that only the top 20 highschool players are eligible for the draft. that would cut down the problem some what but still allow those who belong to get in.

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