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INDIANSFORLIFE
This is a letter that a business partner of mine has sent out to his fellow owners.
The rules which we have put in place, and our commitment to finding experienced,active owners should make this one of the sites' most competitive and enjoyable leagues.
Unique Setup
The league will have 32 teams, each from a different city (thanks to the July 13th update that will allow this). It will be divided up into 2 different leagues, an A league and a B League.
The A League will initially be a merged league, where owners who are unhappy with the their league, but happy with their team, or owners in a league that is folding can maintain their current roster in a new league.
The 16 teams in the B League will start fresh and have an initial draft (snake positional draft).
The top 3 teams in the American League and National League of the B league will move up to the A league each season
The bottom 3 teams in the American and National League of the A league will be dropped to the B League each season
TONS OF NEW FEATURES USED
The league will feature a lot of the sites' new options. We will use variable development(different development tracks), system 3 minor league(all players fully developed), a draft lottery for the bottom 6 teams, and a rule V draft.
The league will have 12 games per day, and most of the other rules will be similar to the ABL(http://www.simdynasty.com/oldforum-viewthread.jsp?tid=147674)
Please let me know if you have any questions at all, I will answer them all ASAP
Thanks for your consideration, and I hope to be playing with you in this new exciting league
Best regards,
thaceo(owner of the New York Bombers-BSL)
I will continue to keep you updated.
First UPDATE: Possible Ladder League, One division of 16 = Defunct teams
July 19, 2009 at 03:27AM View BBCode
WE HAVE OUR FIRST UPDATE..it appears that TYson is gone this weekend..we should know more about our application status soon.This is a letter that a business partner of mine has sent out to his fellow owners.
The rules which we have put in place, and our commitment to finding experienced,active owners should make this one of the sites' most competitive and enjoyable leagues.
Unique Setup
The league will have 32 teams, each from a different city (thanks to the July 13th update that will allow this). It will be divided up into 2 different leagues, an A league and a B League.
The A League will initially be a merged league, where owners who are unhappy with the their league, but happy with their team, or owners in a league that is folding can maintain their current roster in a new league.
The 16 teams in the B League will start fresh and have an initial draft (snake positional draft).
The top 3 teams in the American League and National League of the B league will move up to the A league each season
The bottom 3 teams in the American and National League of the A league will be dropped to the B League each season
TONS OF NEW FEATURES USED
The league will feature a lot of the sites' new options. We will use variable development(different development tracks), system 3 minor league(all players fully developed), a draft lottery for the bottom 6 teams, and a rule V draft.
The league will have 12 games per day, and most of the other rules will be similar to the ABL(http://www.simdynasty.com/oldforum-viewthread.jsp?tid=147674)
Please let me know if you have any questions at all, I will answer them all ASAP
Thanks for your consideration, and I hope to be playing with you in this new exciting league
Best regards,
thaceo(owner of the New York Bombers-BSL)
I will continue to keep you updated.
INDIANSFORLIFE
Any Rule 5 draft would only be held every 3 or 5 seasons.
July 19, 2009 at 03:30AM View BBCode
TO add:Any Rule 5 draft would only be held every 3 or 5 seasons.
great_brain
July 19, 2009 at 01:01PM View BBCode
I have the same question as Swampy re: what is Rule 5 draft, but this sounds really interesting, I would def consider it.
INDIANSFORLIFE
July 19, 2009 at 02:56PM View BBCode
A rule 5 draft is a prospect draft held every once in a while. Teams would designate a certain amount of players available to be drafted by teams from their minor leagues. After two or three of those players have been selected, we would make the rest of your players exempt from drafting.
great_brain
July 19, 2009 at 04:55PM View BBCode
Can you maybe explain how this is beneficial? I guess i don't get it, you mean every few season, we have to put our own minor leaguers up for a draft? how does that affect rebuilds?
lemaster
Rule 5
July 19, 2009 at 05:26PM View BBCode
So you put up your crappiest minor leaguers, everyone else does as well, and you select someone else's crappy minor leaguers? What's the benefit of that? No one is going to lose good minor leaguers or even marginal ones to a Rule V.
INDIANSFORLIFE
it can help to get old vets some good teams stash in the minors, and old teams some young that rebuilding teams have stocked up
or mentors
or a way to acquire players that you want but arent quite worth trading for, players that arent being used by their teams...
and youd be able to trade rights to a rule 5 pick, adding more possible assets to use in trades, allowing for different types of trades..
it's also more realistic, as it exists in the MLB...
each team would have to designate 7 players, and there would be a rule on how many each team can have on their minor league roster, as well as a rule freezing rosters at a certain date to eliminate manipulation...there would be some good players available..
[Edited on 7-19-2009 by INDIANSFORLIFE]
July 19, 2009 at 05:43PM View BBCode
some mightit can help to get old vets some good teams stash in the minors, and old teams some young that rebuilding teams have stocked up
or mentors
or a way to acquire players that you want but arent quite worth trading for, players that arent being used by their teams...
and youd be able to trade rights to a rule 5 pick, adding more possible assets to use in trades, allowing for different types of trades..
it's also more realistic, as it exists in the MLB...
each team would have to designate 7 players, and there would be a rule on how many each team can have on their minor league roster, as well as a rule freezing rosters at a certain date to eliminate manipulation...there would be some good players available..
[Edited on 7-19-2009 by INDIANSFORLIFE]
lemaster
OK
July 19, 2009 at 05:45PM View BBCode
But do you pick the players that are exposed to Rule 5? What is the process for picking them? Like over age 24? That would make sense to me since if a player is 24 and still in the minors there's probably not room for him on the roster. And will you have to keep the Rule 5 on your 25 man MLB roster the whole season or lose him, like in MLB?
INDIANSFORLIFE
July 19, 2009 at 05:46PM View BBCode
it would be further beneficial because there will definitely be a minimum loss penalty or lottery or both...creating more of a need for those b-/b players that arent usually worth trading for..
lemaster
I like the idea
July 19, 2009 at 05:50PM View BBCode
As long as owners aren't putting up waiver wire players, that's why I'm curious as to who would be exposed. Teams do stockpile talent occasionally in the minors and this would redistribute some talent other teams could use in majors. That's why picking that talent would be vital as opposed to teams just putting up the dregs of their minors or getting guys from the waiver wire and exposing them to the draft, which no one needs.
INDIANSFORLIFE
Yeah. You would pick your own list of 7 players. No other requirements. If you have 2 or 3 of them drafted (undecided) then the rest would be exempt..
Wouldnt have to keep them on the major league roster. The draft would probably be done by message board if no technology is developed...
July 19, 2009 at 05:50PM View BBCode
by lemaster
But do you the players that are exposed to 5? the process for picking them? Like over age 24? That would make sense to me since if a player is 24 and still in the minors there's probably not room for him on the roster. And will you have to keep the 5 on your 25 man MLB roster the whole season or lose him, like in MLB?
Yeah. You would pick your own list of 7 players. No other requirements. If you have 2 or 3 of them drafted (undecided) then the rest would be exempt..
Wouldnt have to keep them on the major league roster. The draft would probably be done by message board if no technology is developed...
INDIANSFORLIFE
Yeah. That is why I would put in the roster freeze, as well as make ineligible any player rated D+ or worse, as well as any C- over the age of 26 without A mentoring.
July 19, 2009 at 05:53PM View BBCode
by lemaster
As long as owners aren't up waiver , that's why I'm curious as to who would be exposed. Teams do stockpile talent occasionally in the minors and this would redistribute some talent other teams could use in majors. That's why picking that talent would be vital as opposed to teams just putting up the dregs of their minors or getting guys from the waiver wire and exposing them to the draft, which no one needs.
Yeah. That is why I would put in the roster freeze, as well as make ineligible any player rated D+ or worse, as well as any C- over the age of 26 without A mentoring.
lemaster
You may want to consider this
July 19, 2009 at 05:54PM View BBCode
Every team can exempt 5 of their 15 minor leaguers. The other 10 are exposed to the draft and up to 2 or 3 (you'll have to decide) can be plucked by other teams. Once the 2 or 3 are plucked, you can't lose any more.
INDIANSFORLIFE
it's a possibility.
July 19, 2009 at 05:57PM View BBCode
Yeah I was thinkin about that...it's a possibility.
INDIANSFORLIFE
[Edited on 7-19-2009 by INDIANSFORLIFE]
July 19, 2009 at 05:59PM View BBCode
Also, all interested owners should see the thread in Private League Information...u2u me or say it here, or u2u thaceo to reserve your spot...[Edited on 7-19-2009 by INDIANSFORLIFE]
Svvamprat
It's flawed you can't have an owner pick 7 of his own players. What would stop an owner from picking up waiver wire trash before the deadline and saying here are my 7? Besides there are no B- or even B guys mid 20s worth using in a CP 3 league. CP 3 leagues are just different animals all together. What you have in a mature CP 3 league is alot of B+ overall players from any age range and even some teams carrying 2 or more A- overall guys in the minors. There has to be a better way to carry this out.
July 20, 2009 at 06:52AM View BBCode
Originally posted by INDIANSFORLIFE
by lemaster
But do you the players that are exposed to 5? the process for picking them? Like over age 24? That would make sense to me since if a player is 24 and still in the minors there's probably not room for him on the roster. And will you have to keep the 5 on your 25 man MLB roster the whole season or lose him, like in MLB?
Yeah. You would pick your own list of 7 players. No other requirements. If you have 2 or 3 of them drafted (undecided) then the rest would be exempt..
Wouldnt have to keep them on the major league roster. The draft would probably be done by message board if no technology is developed...
It's flawed you can't have an owner pick 7 of his own players. What would stop an owner from picking up waiver wire trash before the deadline and saying here are my 7? Besides there are no B- or even B guys mid 20s worth using in a CP 3 league. CP 3 leagues are just different animals all together. What you have in a mature CP 3 league is alot of B+ overall players from any age range and even some teams carrying 2 or more A- overall guys in the minors. There has to be a better way to carry this out.
great_brain
I have to agree, the whole benefit of having a CP 3 league is so you can have many minor leaguers sit there and develop, which seems to cut against the Rule 5 draft idea. From my experience an edit league has a much better method for evening up teams and throwing some spontenaity into the mix.
July 20, 2009 at 06:58AM View BBCode
Originally posted by Svvamprat
Originally posted by INDIANSFORLIFE
by lemaster
But do you the players that are exposed to 5? the process for picking them? Like over age 24? That would make sense to me since if a player is 24 and still in the minors there's probably not room for him on the roster. And will you have to keep the 5 on your 25 man MLB roster the whole season or lose him, like in MLB?
Yeah. You would pick your own list of 7 players. No other requirements. If you have 2 or 3 of them drafted (undecided) then the rest would be exempt..
Wouldnt have to keep them on the major league roster. The draft would probably be done by message board if no technology is developed...
It's flawed you can't have an owner pick 7 of his own players. What would stop an owner from picking up waiver wire trash before the deadline and saying here are my 7? Besides there are no B- or even B guys mid 20s worth using in a CP 3 league. CP 3 leagues are just different animals all together. What you have in a mature CP 3 league is alot of B+ overall players from any age range and even some teams carrying 2 or more A- overall guys in the minors. There has to be a better way to carry this out.
I have to agree, the whole benefit of having a CP 3 league is so you can have many minor leaguers sit there and develop, which seems to cut against the Rule 5 draft idea. From my experience an edit league has a much better method for evening up teams and throwing some spontenaity into the mix.
INDIANSFORLIFE
But it hasnt been accepted yet anyway so it might be a moot point.
July 20, 2009 at 02:20PM View BBCode
The roster freeze and player ineligibility would stop those things.Plus there would only be 2 rounds in the draft...But it hasnt been accepted yet anyway so it might be a moot point.
Svvamprat
Rule 5 won't be accepted because of the work involved that an admin would have to do. First the guys in the B league would have to select a player to be converted. If your going to draft 2 deep then they would have to choose 2 players. Then the admin would copy player X(a league player) to player Y(player chosen by the B league). To get 32 owners to respond in a timely manor would be impossible. Take away rule 5 and this league has a better chance.
July 20, 2009 at 03:48PM View BBCode
Originally posted by INDIANSFORLIFE
The roster freeze and player ineligibility would stop those things.Plus there would only be 2 rounds in the draft...
But it hasnt been accepted yet anyway so it might be a moot point.
Rule 5 won't be accepted because of the work involved that an admin would have to do. First the guys in the B league would have to select a player to be converted. If your going to draft 2 deep then they would have to choose 2 players. Then the admin would copy player X(a league player) to player Y(player chosen by the B league). To get 32 owners to respond in a timely manor would be impossible. Take away rule 5 and this league has a better chance.
thaceo
I don't think the rule V will be accepted either. I just recently sent an e-mail to Tyson w/ concessions that won't effect the league too much, but makes it easier on them. Im hoping we can get this thing filled up and on the road.
July 20, 2009 at 06:26PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Svvamprat
Originally posted by INDIANSFORLIFE
The roster freeze and player ineligibility would stop those things.Plus there would only be 2 rounds in the draft...
But it hasnt been accepted yet anyway so it might be a moot point.
Rule 5 won't be accepted because of the work involved that an admin would have to do. First the guys in the B league would have to select a player to be converted. If your going to draft 2 deep then they would have to choose 2 players. Then the admin would copy player X(a league player) to player Y(player chosen by the B league). To get 32 owners to respond in a timely manor would be impossible. Take away rule 5 and this league has a better chance.
I don't think the rule V will be accepted either. I just recently sent an e-mail to Tyson w/ concessions that won't effect the league too much, but makes it easier on them. Im hoping we can get this thing filled up and on the road.
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