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spicoli306
Here's the breakdown.
Buck Tate singles.
Merle Goar walks.
Bill Hovley lays down a bunt to the third baseman. He is thrown out at first with the second baseman covering the bag. Runners advance.
Josh Mathews strikes out.
Pat Smith flies out to the right fielder.
What is the worst possible thing for Matthews to do there with runners on 2nd & 3rd and only 1 out? Strike out, of course! I realize [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8494570]Miller[/url] is a pretty good pitcher...but...I wouldn't think it would be unreasonable that a hitter like [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8494742]Matthews[/url] would be able to at least get the bat on the ball against a southpaw. Maybe the truth of the matter is Matthews is just a complete moron and doesn't understand the gravity of the situation or Miller knows exactly when to dial up those un-hittable pitches, but it's not much fun getting burned on something like this again and again with not enough explanation to think it is anything but pure, dumb luck.
Player Intelligence
January 24, 2011 at 11:18AM View BBCode
Ok. I've been upset recently in my trial league. Despite having one of the better teams in the [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/standings.jsp?teamid=97198]Grady Little League[/url], my team keeps finding new and idiotic ways of losing. Is there any way some kind of batter/pitcher intelligence can be instituted??? My team's most recent game, [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=19563036&cityid=31]Game 136[/url], of course ended in my team losing a 1-0 shutout. For me, the 5th inning was the most troubling, because this seems to be a recurring problem with this team.Here's the breakdown.
Buck Tate singles.
Merle Goar walks.
Bill Hovley lays down a bunt to the third baseman. He is thrown out at first with the second baseman covering the bag. Runners advance.
Josh Mathews strikes out.
Pat Smith flies out to the right fielder.
What is the worst possible thing for Matthews to do there with runners on 2nd & 3rd and only 1 out? Strike out, of course! I realize [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8494570]Miller[/url] is a pretty good pitcher...but...I wouldn't think it would be unreasonable that a hitter like [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8494742]Matthews[/url] would be able to at least get the bat on the ball against a southpaw. Maybe the truth of the matter is Matthews is just a complete moron and doesn't understand the gravity of the situation or Miller knows exactly when to dial up those un-hittable pitches, but it's not much fun getting burned on something like this again and again with not enough explanation to think it is anything but pure, dumb luck.
shawnwoods15
The actual truth of the matter is Miller is a very good pitcher, and Matthews is a very poor hitter.
January 24, 2011 at 01:51PM View BBCode
Well if you're upset that your A+/C- hitter didn't get the bat on the ball against an A+/A- hitter (whose strength is striking batters out) then I don't think I feel the same way.Originally posted by spicoli306
Maybe the truth of the matter is Matthews is just a complete moron and doesn't understand the gravity of the situation or Miller knows exactly when to dial up those un-hittable pitches, but it's not much fun getting burned on something like this again and again with not enough explanation to think it is anything but pure, dumb luck.
The actual truth of the matter is Miller is a very good pitcher, and Matthews is a very poor hitter.
dirtdevil
i'm sorry, i must be misunderstanding your complaint. it looks to me like you're suggesting that with runners on 2nd and 3rd and less than two outs, a batter should never strikeout. as a long-time fan of the toronto blue jays, i have to say that i only wish that were actually true.
January 24, 2011 at 02:57PM View BBCode
Originally posted by spicoli306
What is the worst possible thing for Matthews to do there with runners on 2nd & 3rd and only 1 out? Strike out, of course! I realize [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8494570]Miller[/url] is a pretty good pitcher...but...I wouldn't think it would be unreasonable that a hitter like [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8494742]Matthews[/url] would be able to at least get the bat on the ball against a southpaw. Maybe the truth of the matter is Matthews is just a complete moron and doesn't understand the gravity of the situation or Miller knows exactly when to dial up those un-hittable pitches, but it's not much fun getting burned on something like this again and again with not enough explanation to think it is anything but pure, dumb luck.
i'm sorry, i must be misunderstanding your complaint. it looks to me like you're suggesting that with runners on 2nd and 3rd and less than two outs, a batter should never strikeout. as a long-time fan of the toronto blue jays, i have to say that i only wish that were actually true.
Hamilton2
January 24, 2011 at 04:02PM View BBCode
I love it when someone's suggestion has the angry face emoticon. I know it will be entertaining. :spin:
jetpac
January 24, 2011 at 06:36PM View BBCode
A+ "contact" does seem to suggets that he should be able to at least hit a weak grounder, but against a pitcher like that it certainly shouldn't be guaranteed. Going for the grounder or the sac fly does feel like a skill that some real players have, but I'm not sure intelligence is what that skill is.
spicoli306
How about this one then? [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=19435363&cityid=31]9th inning against a terrible pitcher, 2 guys pop out when advancing the batter is crucial. Guy with 1 out is a B+/A+ against a B+/C+.[/url]
My argument isn't that the better player shouldn't do better in an individual matchup, just that it would be good if the hitters hit to the situation. You can adjust the settings to be more aggressive when stealing in the late innings/close games. You can play the infield in on defense in these situations. There should be a setting so the hitter can best accomplish the goal of scoring the tying/winning run in close games. Consider me a disciple of the Whitey Herzog way of winning. If these SIM players performed in this way with a manager like Whitey, he'd have their head.
Didn't realize Toronto had such a patent on bad baseball fundamentals. As a lifelong Cub fan, I have seen more than my fair share of poor baseball fundamentals.
All I'm saying is Matthews, with his high contact/extremely high Leadership (yeah, yeah I know it doesn't effect performance, but maybe it should), should be doing anything other than striking out there. Would there be a way of instituting a higher chance of a A Leader like him to try to just get a run in and let the players with F/D Leadership strike out while trying to hit the meaningless 3-run homer? That seems fair, right?
Would Leadership make sense? Seems like it would be the easiest to tweak. Trial leagues are much more frustrating than Dynasty/Speed Leagues of course, which I assume is why no one is really sympathizing with me. I guess I would like to either have a manager preference option in situations like this or try to establish a player attribute which can be targeted by owners tired of getting burned by tough luck.
January 25, 2011 at 07:51AM View BBCode
Originally posted by shawnwoods15
Well if you're upset that your A+/C- hitter didn't get the bat on the ball against an A+/A- hitter (whose strength is striking batters out) then I don't think I feel the same way.
The actual truth of the matter is Miller is a very good pitcher, and Matthews is a very poor hitter.
How about this one then? [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=19435363&cityid=31]9th inning against a terrible pitcher, 2 guys pop out when advancing the batter is crucial. Guy with 1 out is a B+/A+ against a B+/C+.[/url]
My argument isn't that the better player shouldn't do better in an individual matchup, just that it would be good if the hitters hit to the situation. You can adjust the settings to be more aggressive when stealing in the late innings/close games. You can play the infield in on defense in these situations. There should be a setting so the hitter can best accomplish the goal of scoring the tying/winning run in close games. Consider me a disciple of the Whitey Herzog way of winning. If these SIM players performed in this way with a manager like Whitey, he'd have their head.
Originally posted by dirtdevil
i'm sorry, i must be misunderstanding your complaint. it looks to me like you're suggesting that with runners on 2nd and 3rd and less than two outs, a batter should never strikeout. as a long-time fan of the toronto blue jays, i have to say that i only wish that were actually true.
Didn't realize Toronto had such a patent on bad baseball fundamentals. As a lifelong Cub fan, I have seen more than my fair share of poor baseball fundamentals.
All I'm saying is Matthews, with his high contact/extremely high Leadership (yeah, yeah I know it doesn't effect performance, but maybe it should), should be doing anything other than striking out there. Would there be a way of instituting a higher chance of a A Leader like him to try to just get a run in and let the players with F/D Leadership strike out while trying to hit the meaningless 3-run homer? That seems fair, right?
Originally posted by jetpac
A+ "contact" does seem to suggets that he should be able to at least hit a weak grounder, but against a pitcher like that it certainly shouldn't be guaranteed. Going for the grounder or the sac fly does feel like a skill that some real players have, but I'm not sure intelligence is what that skill is.
Would Leadership make sense? Seems like it would be the easiest to tweak. Trial leagues are much more frustrating than Dynasty/Speed Leagues of course, which I assume is why no one is really sympathizing with me. I guess I would like to either have a manager preference option in situations like this or try to establish a player attribute which can be targeted by owners tired of getting burned by tough luck.
dirtdevil
sometimes, the pitchers win.
January 25, 2011 at 02:01PM View BBCode
let me sum up my position on this thusly:sometimes, the pitchers win.
paulcaraccio
ok, maybe not "just as much sense" but it's kind of similar
January 25, 2011 at 08:54PM View BBCode
sometimes the umpire says "strike" when it's clearly a ball. strikeouts happen, even at the worst times. That's baseball. It would make just as much sense if your team is down 1 with 2 outs and your cleanup hitter walks and you say "why didn't he just hit a home run there?"ok, maybe not "just as much sense" but it's kind of similar
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