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chmela11
Hasagawa is so good he skipped the Minors???
He is a B-
Yes a B-
You have no integrity and YOUR lack of goodwill and sportsmanship is a unbelievable. It just shows you are a liar and your song and dance about the other loser you pitch every 5th day is a big LIE!!!
Grow up. Admit your tanking it and don't drag me into the mud with you.
Joe Hasagawa??? NY Lowlanders.
May 10, 2013 at 01:41PM View BBCode
Guy????Hasagawa is so good he skipped the Minors???
He is a B-
Yes a B-
You have no integrity and YOUR lack of goodwill and sportsmanship is a unbelievable. It just shows you are a liar and your song and dance about the other loser you pitch every 5th day is a big LIE!!!
Grow up. Admit your tanking it and don't drag me into the mud with you.
kjw239
Just drafted Hasegawa, who is OS 22, in the second round.
My team is obviously not going to win this year. Why would I put a younger guy, who will convert OC's less effectively, in the majors instead of Hasegawa, who has a better chance than anyone in my minors of successfully converting in the majors?
You might not like the development system for the sim. But I am making the most rational choice I can with Hasegawa given all the talent I have in the minors now to maximize his long term development. And anyone who would keep Konuszewki in the minors with his development curve (bust in minors, boom in majors) when their team is rebuilding doesn't know how to play the game.
Is it realistic? Not really. Am I making the most rational decisions for the long term development of my team? I think I pretty clearly am. And I have been pretty successful in this league for 50 seasons without ever being accused of tanking, so there's really no reason I would need to start now. Although this rebuild I am in is taking longer than I would hope, I still have more championships than I do 100 loss seasons. I know you are relatively new to the sim, but that is not the profile of a tanker.
But if you think what I am doing is tanking, I'm going to be very interested in how you avoid having to put some guys who aren't really ready into the majors with all the draft picks you have on the way over the next few seasons. The only other solution I can think of it to keep 20 guys in the minors. Maybe you will feel better because that it more realistic... But that is just not the way to maximize player development.
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May 10, 2013 at 03:08PM View BBCode
I have 15 guys in my minors that are OS 21 or younger.Just drafted Hasegawa, who is OS 22, in the second round.
My team is obviously not going to win this year. Why would I put a younger guy, who will convert OC's less effectively, in the majors instead of Hasegawa, who has a better chance than anyone in my minors of successfully converting in the majors?
You might not like the development system for the sim. But I am making the most rational choice I can with Hasegawa given all the talent I have in the minors now to maximize his long term development. And anyone who would keep Konuszewki in the minors with his development curve (bust in minors, boom in majors) when their team is rebuilding doesn't know how to play the game.
Is it realistic? Not really. Am I making the most rational decisions for the long term development of my team? I think I pretty clearly am. And I have been pretty successful in this league for 50 seasons without ever being accused of tanking, so there's really no reason I would need to start now. Although this rebuild I am in is taking longer than I would hope, I still have more championships than I do 100 loss seasons. I know you are relatively new to the sim, but that is not the profile of a tanker.
But if you think what I am doing is tanking, I'm going to be very interested in how you avoid having to put some guys who aren't really ready into the majors with all the draft picks you have on the way over the next few seasons. The only other solution I can think of it to keep 20 guys in the minors. Maybe you will feel better because that it more realistic... But that is just not the way to maximize player development.
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Todibus
I don't like to see personal attacks on the boards - disagreeing with someone's strategy is one thing, attacking someone's integrity is another.
Also my opinion: KJW is not tanking - he's managing his team to maximize the development of his players based on what he has.
Chmela, as far as I know, isn't colluding with any other owners or acting in bad faith when trading.
As a side note: if someone in this league was tanking, that's a perfectly legitimate strategy based on the rules. Some leagues have instituted anti-tanking rules when the owners in those leagues felt it was appropriate. As far as I have seen in my 23 seasons in the JEL, we haven't had any owners blatantly trying for the #1 draft position, though, again, there's nothing in our league rules that would prevent such a strategy.
It's the same for lopsided trades: there's nothing in the rules that prevents owners from offering or accepting one-sided trades as long as "there isn't a specific reason to believe an owner is in collusion with another or otherwise acting in bad faith".
May 10, 2013 at 06:15PM View BBCode
FWIW: my opinionI don't like to see personal attacks on the boards - disagreeing with someone's strategy is one thing, attacking someone's integrity is another.
Also my opinion: KJW is not tanking - he's managing his team to maximize the development of his players based on what he has.
Chmela, as far as I know, isn't colluding with any other owners or acting in bad faith when trading.
As a side note: if someone in this league was tanking, that's a perfectly legitimate strategy based on the rules. Some leagues have instituted anti-tanking rules when the owners in those leagues felt it was appropriate. As far as I have seen in my 23 seasons in the JEL, we haven't had any owners blatantly trying for the #1 draft position, though, again, there's nothing in our league rules that would prevent such a strategy.
It's the same for lopsided trades: there's nothing in the rules that prevents owners from offering or accepting one-sided trades as long as "there isn't a specific reason to believe an owner is in collusion with another or otherwise acting in bad faith".
gannable
He's clearly trying to limit his minor leagues to 15 in order to get the maximum number of IC's. And, he's rolling the dice on 2 marginal prospedts to see if they can improve at the major league level while his team rebuilds.
I've done similar things and so has many other owners. He's doing nothing unethical.
"Tanking" is picking up total scrubs off the wire waiver wire when there are other options available. Once I saw an owner pick up a D+ overall catcher and start him the last 2 weeks of the season so he could get the first overall pick over another close competitor. That is "tanking" and something that should be criticized.
Or, I once saw someone leave a stud play on the bench the entire season not to mention he had a pretty talented team; simply to get another the #1 pick one last season. That is "tanking" and very lame.
KJW is clearly NOT tanking.
And Chemala's trades with Houston are terrible. Houston should be rebuilding not trading away first rounders.
And Chemela, you had the makings of a championship team a couple seasons ago, all you had to do was add hitting. I did not understand the logic behind trading away your pitching.
May 12, 2013 at 07:51PM View BBCode
KJW- is not "tanking" to get better draft picks.He's clearly trying to limit his minor leagues to 15 in order to get the maximum number of IC's. And, he's rolling the dice on 2 marginal prospedts to see if they can improve at the major league level while his team rebuilds.
I've done similar things and so has many other owners. He's doing nothing unethical.
"Tanking" is picking up total scrubs off the wire waiver wire when there are other options available. Once I saw an owner pick up a D+ overall catcher and start him the last 2 weeks of the season so he could get the first overall pick over another close competitor. That is "tanking" and something that should be criticized.
Or, I once saw someone leave a stud play on the bench the entire season not to mention he had a pretty talented team; simply to get another the #1 pick one last season. That is "tanking" and very lame.
KJW is clearly NOT tanking.
And Chemala's trades with Houston are terrible. Houston should be rebuilding not trading away first rounders.
And Chemela, you had the makings of a championship team a couple seasons ago, all you had to do was add hitting. I did not understand the logic behind trading away your pitching.
gannable
He was a good owner who decided to leave the site.
May 12, 2013 at 07:58PM View BBCode
and incidentally, those championship teams were built by my old friend Jamieson who originally owned BabyDoc's current HBL franchise. Jamieson gave me a lot of advice when I first started playing; learned a lot from him.He was a good owner who decided to leave the site.
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