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paulcaraccio

Evidence of a double steal attempt

February 07, 2014 at 03:24AM View BBCode

My defensive settings are to bring the infield in in all available situations from the 4th inning on. In this game, top 6th, tie game, 1st and 2nd, one out, guy on 2nd steals 3rd, which should have brought my infield in, but instead:

Inning: 6 Cleveland

Neal Creeden walks.
Neal Creeden steals second.
Blo Bumson walks.
George Epperly flies out to the center fielder.
Neal Creeden steals third.
Blo Bumson is out trying to steal second (2B covering 2nd).

Did we already know about this, I've never noticed it before.

http://simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=26782955&cityid=20
WillyD

February 08, 2014 at 06:14PM View BBCode

I've seen these before a few times. Did they steal at the same time, or a few pitches apart, who knows?
paulcaraccio

February 08, 2014 at 08:14PM View BBCode

i think it had to be the same pitch, or my infield would have come in...otherwise it's kind of a bug.
WillyD

February 08, 2014 at 10:39PM View BBCode

That's true, sorry I skimmed thru your first post. I wonder how the catcher decides which runner to try and throw out?
paulcaraccio

February 09, 2014 at 07:33PM View BBCode

thats a good question, i'll pass this on to Support just for curiosity.
Hamilton2

February 12, 2014 at 12:53AM View BBCode

Cool. I did not think that double steals happened. This is probably a mistake, with two different steal attempts in the at bat and the fielding code check only catching the initial situation for the at bat but not the subsequent runners on 1st and 3rd after the first steal.
paulcaraccio

February 12, 2014 at 01:14AM View BBCode

yeah i posted this in Support to find out, that's what Tyson said too. kinda disappointing, i wish he lied, ha.
paulcaraccio

August 02, 2014 at 10:11PM View BBCode

just saw another one, and this time the evidence appears to be irrefutable, because the double-steal attempt happens with 0 out, the infield still came in after, even though the same batter is still at the plate. I wish my catcher tried to get the guy at 3rd, ha.

Inning: 9 Baltimore
Dick Niehoff reached on a 2-base fielding error by Matt Bordi.
Scott Fletcher walks.
Dick Niehoff steals third.
Scott Fletcher is out trying to steal second (2B covering 2nd).
The defense is playing the infield in.
Ron Kittle flies out to the right fielder. Runner on third tags,
Dick Niehoff scores.
Jackie Chiles is pinch hitting for Elmer Dolan. Pitcher will be pulled in the next inning, will pinch hit for now. Pitcher is being pulled because of save situation rule.
Jackie Chiles strikes out.

http://simdynasty.com/boxscore.jsp?boxscoreid=27877495&cityid=2
redcped

August 03, 2014 at 04:21PM View BBCode

Do your settings take outs into account? I'm asking because if the infield would only move in after 1 out, that could also explain it.
paulcaraccio

August 03, 2014 at 08:31PM View BBCode

yeah, i move 'em in all the time. 0 outs, 1 out...home team, away team...winning run, tying run.

the mystery is how would the guy on 1st know to attempt a steal on the same pitch...the base isn't even open.
Hamilton2

August 05, 2014 at 12:27AM View BBCode

It isn't a same pitch scenario. This is a known glitch (where the lead runner attempts a steal, then the other run attempts a steal; but the code does not re-assess the situation for moving the IF after the first steal attempt, it only runs that at the beginning of an at bat). Sorry.
paulcaraccio

August 05, 2014 at 02:15AM View BBCode

the infield moved in mid-AB.
Hamilton2

August 05, 2014 at 02:47AM View BBCode

But not between the two steal attempts. I still think that there were independent events.
Hamilton2

August 05, 2014 at 02:48AM View BBCode

Ugh. That last sentence makes me sound like a complete moron.

I still don't think that this is fixed, or that they actually attempted a true "double steal." If they did, your catcher is stupid for getting the tailing runner. :)

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