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Zeta draft is paused

April 25, 2014 at 02:24PM View BBCode

I am troubleshooting a draft problem; I have paused the drafts in Zeta while I investigate.

Chris
Closer

April 25, 2014 at 02:46PM View BBCode

Why is is paused when the playoffs aren't done?
Admin

April 25, 2014 at 04:33PM View BBCode

So that way when the playoffs and offseason finish, the draft won't continue until I am ready for it to.

Chris
Admin

April 25, 2014 at 05:21PM View BBCode

I may just take this opportunity to upgrade the draft to run pick by pick.

Quick poll: How long is "too long" for a draft to run? Even giving each pick only two minutes on the clock makes for an 8 hour draft even without any pause between rounds. Of course I think people will stop worrying about it much after round 3, but still, it seems excessive.

Chris
Closer

April 25, 2014 at 05:30PM View BBCode

I'd say you do the first two rounds.
dirtdevil

April 25, 2014 at 05:36PM View BBCode

what about something like two minutes per pick in the 1st, 15 minute pause to reset draft orders, two minutes per pick in the second, 15 minute pause and then run the rest of the draft? people would get to be hands-on if they want, and you'd still be done in under three hours. plus those who didn't want to/couldn't be on live for the first round and/or second would still know what time to be on to reset their draft order.

what happens when two or more of these drafts runs at the same time though?

[Edited on 4-25-2014 by dirtdevil]
Admin

April 25, 2014 at 05:46PM View BBCode

Originally posted by dirtdevil
what happens when two or more of these drafts runs at the same time though?


The actual draft itself causes very little strain on the database... next to none when you are only doing one pick. It's having multiple people on re-sorting their draft order that I suspect may be causing draft issues, although I can't see why that would be an issue either unless I have a bad index or something (we have never had those issues in Beta).

When you look at the draft page, I should be able to post a schedule of when your picks are "on the clock". You could theoretically reset your draft order at any time, even during a round; when the time for your pick comes it will simply take whoever is on the top of your list at that point that is not excluded by other draft rules. Since you will be looking at the page within the context of a specific round, I can even highlight in red players that won't be drafted due to that round's settings.

Players don't actually join your team until the whole draft is over so you won't be able to trade or waive them or anything until it is complete.

Chris
dirtdevil

April 25, 2014 at 05:53PM View BBCode

Originally posted by Admin
You could theoretically reset your draft order at any time, even during a round; when the time for your pick comes it will simply take whoever is on the top of your list at that point that is not excluded by other draft rules.

sure, if you're online. that would be cool. I'm jus thinking that someone who only has x amount of time on draft night might benefit from knowing when each round was going to start.
Since you will be looking at the page within the context of a specific round, I can even highlight in red players that won't be drafted due to that round's settings.

that would be cool.

[Edited on 4-25-2014 by dirtdevil]
JoeyMac08

April 25, 2014 at 09:39PM View BBCode

I'm not sure how this works but when my 2 minutes comes up, I'd like to see who's left and actually select someone. At the end of the 2 mins does it select who's at the top of the draft board? Can I rearrange that during the 2 mins?
RichNYC1

April 25, 2014 at 10:55PM View BBCode

Originally posted by dirtdevil
Originally posted by Admin
You could theoretically reset your draft order at any time, even during a round; when the time for your pick comes it will simply take whoever is on the top of your list at that point that is not excluded by other draft rules.

sure, if you're online. that would be cool. I'm jus thinking that someone who only has x amount of time on draft night might benefit from knowing when each round was going to start.
Since you will be looking at the page within the context of a specific round, I can even highlight in red players that won't be drafted due to that round's settings.

that would be cool.

[Edited on 4-25-2014 by dirtdevil]



I like all of this and 2 min seems like it would work
Hodor

April 26, 2014 at 05:18AM View BBCode

Originally posted by JoeyMac08
I'm not sure how this works but when my 2 minutes comes up, I'd like to see who's left and actually select someone. At the end of the 2 mins does it select who's at the top of the draft board? Can I rearrange that during the 2 mins?


That's what I understood.
Now... are you willing to risk that the site (or your internet connection) gets a bit slower during that couple of minutes and you don't end up selecting the guy you wanted?
I think you should just have it ready as soon as you can.

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The message boards should be really entertaining while the draft is taking place...

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2 minutes between picks seem right to me aswell.
I'd like time to adjust before the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds.
(
-1st round
-time to adjust
-2nd round
-time to adjust
-3rd round
-time to adjust
-Rest of the draft.
)
Although probably the 2 minute gap between picks could be only in the first (and maybe in the second) round(s).

I'm worried about the schedule... what time would the draft run in this cases?
Bucs1010

April 26, 2014 at 11:50AM View BBCode

Could Chris put a chat inside the draft page like yahoo? Or does that require java?
jerryscoins

April 26, 2014 at 01:40PM View BBCode

2 minutes per selection and like first 3 rounds sounds pretty cool to me.
dirtdevil

April 26, 2014 at 05:03PM View BBCode

Originally posted by Admin
The actual draft itself causes very little strain on the database... next to none when you are only doing one pick. It's having multiple people on re-sorting their draft order that I suspect may be causing draft issues

You could theoretically reset your draft order at any time, even during a round

could this combination of factors lead to MORE of a strain if everyone in a couple leagues is constantly resorting their draft board as players are drafted?
Admin

April 26, 2014 at 08:59PM View BBCode

The draft page is relatively simple, it should never have been a strain in the first place. I'm still not convinced 100% that it is.

Of course you don't need to wait for your 2 minute slot to adjust your draft, that 2 minutes just happens to be the one window in which you know exactly who you will get. If there are, say, 4 picks ahead of you and you are comfortable with the order of your next 5 selections, you are golden. My worry is that people WILL wait till that last moment, make a last second change and get upset when a moment of network congestion doesn't get their pick in. I will have to have huge disclaimers to get your picks in early and that I won't be pausing drafts or backing out picks because someone missed a submission by half a second.

Yes, we will b e able to post a schedule for when your picks should be up. IT is possible if the network or server gets busy these times may occasionally drift a minute or two.

Chris
irishman36

April 27, 2014 at 09:23PM View BBCode

Any idea on when its going to be unpaused or when we are going to do the draft?
RichNYC1

April 27, 2014 at 10:57PM View BBCode

I am dying to do this draft too....As long as we have 24 hours notice I am clearing my day and sitting in front of the computer!
Bucs1010

April 28, 2014 at 07:03PM View BBCode

I pretty much need this in my life now
dirtdevil

April 30, 2014 at 05:41PM View BBCode

is the draft ready to go now? the "draft paused" note at the top of the page is gone.
Admin

April 30, 2014 at 06:16PM View BBCode

The draft has run. Please keep an eye out for any unexpected picks.

This is a bugfix run; hopefully by the next draft we'll be able to test a pick-by-pick draft.

Chris
dirtdevil

April 30, 2014 at 06:26PM View BBCode

mine look ok.
Bucs1010

May 05, 2014 at 04:24PM View BBCode

Are we doing the new draft format this draft?

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