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Possible League Merger

October 01, 2014 at 11:20PM View BBCode

Hi,
I've been reviewing leagues that have multiple DynastyBots. You guys currently have 2 Bots, with 2 other teams for sale. One of those teams is scheduled to be taken over by DynastyBot if it doesn't sell by Saturday.

I have two leagues in mind that might make a good fit, but there are differences.

League #1 uses Numbers to display grades like you guys, but only plays 9 games per day.

League #2 uses Letters to display grades and plays 15 games per day.

There are no other leagues on the site that play 18 GPD, so if you want to merge we'll likely need to decrease the number of games per day.

I think League #2 would be a better fit. The new league settings would be:

Injury System 2 (you currently use 4)
Minor League System 6 (same as now)
15 Games per day (verses 18 now)
No restriction on SP (currently you allow only B- endurance or better for the first 3 spots)
Skills displayed as Letters (currently you display numbers)

On the other hand, if you guys like the rules the way they are, there's nothing that says you can't continue to play with DynastyBots in the league.

Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks,
Tyson
Underdog1629

October 01, 2014 at 11:40PM View BBCode

Hi Tyson,

Thanks for taking a look at this. I agree that League #2 would be a better fit. 15 games per day is still a good pace, but I would still like to see the playoffs all played on the same day. I feel that is a fair compromise.

I?m ok with all of the other changes that would occur with the merger.

I do have a few questions?

1) Would the merger constitute the creation of a new league altogether, starting over in 1950?
2) How many teams will there be in this league? 24 teams is what I read on another thread.
3) Do you need an active commissioner? I would be willing to be the commissioners as long as others supported it.
4) When the merger occurs, do we keep our current rosters, or do we draft entirely new teams?

Thanks again for your help with this.

Rob
Admin

October 01, 2014 at 11:55PM View BBCode

1) The league history will remain in the JLL, you can log into it and see it at any point. But the league will start afresh in 1970.

2) 24 teams. If we start to see bots in the newly formed league, we have the ability to downsize the league to 20 teams, then 16. But I wouldn't expect that to happen for a long time.

3) Thanks! We typically take the two existing commishes and make one the new commish, and the other the new co-commish.

4) Your roster and players come over intact, but the stats remain in the JLL.

My guess is that I could get the other league to compromise on the playoff schedule, but you never know.

Tyson
drh000

October 02, 2014 at 01:19AM View BBCode

I am not interested in another league... thanks but no thanks
Admin

October 10, 2014 at 05:18PM View BBCode

Ok, that didn't get a lot of response. League #2 has decided to merge with another league. But I think I have a better match for you.

Injury System 3 (you currently use 4)
Minor League System 6 (same as now)
15 Games per day (verses 18 now)
No restriction on SP (currently you allow only B- endurance or better for the first 3 spots)
Skills displayed as Numbers (same as today)

Let me know if that interests you. I'll be out of town for about a week, but will contact that league the week of October 20th if you guys want to propose a merger.

I can't imagine that we'd find a better match for you guys. So if that doesn't interest you, I'll just assume you guys want to play with DynastyBots in perpetuity.

Thanks,
Tyson
Underdog1629

October 10, 2014 at 05:54PM View BBCode

Thanks for updating us on the status of a possible merger. I would like to merge with the other league that you have suggested in the above post. However, I would still like to see the playoffs all played on the same day. Again, I feel that is a fair compromise considering we are moving from 18 games per day to 15 games per day.

Thanks
Rob
harperke

October 10, 2014 at 07:19PM View BBCode

Yes let's merge
harperke

October 10, 2014 at 07:20PM View BBCode

Yes let's merge
Leonard

October 10, 2014 at 09:22PM View BBCode

I will be leaving at the end of my subscription.
Hujik

October 10, 2014 at 09:43PM View BBCode

I would be willing to merge.
grkyank4

October 11, 2014 at 04:33AM View BBCode

Yes on the merger
kittens

October 11, 2014 at 03:35PM View BBCode

I do not like 24 team leagues so will probably leave if a merger is to happen.
lockjaw

October 14, 2014 at 01:06PM View BBCode

I would merge but would like the keep the numbers. I merged in another league and the numbers / letters thing was a debate. There is a setting that would allow those who prefer letters to see letters so I would like to keep the numbers and let those who prefer letters use that setting.
harperke

October 14, 2014 at 07:00PM View BBCode

I agree with lockjaw
Mongrel

October 20, 2014 at 02:35PM View BBCode

Originally posted by Admin
Ok, that didn't get a lot of response. League #2 has decided to merge with another league. But I think I have a better match for you.

Injury System 3 (you currently use 4)
Minor League System 6 (same as now)
15 Games per day (verses 18 now)
No restriction on SP (currently you allow only B- endurance or better for the first 3 spots)
Skills displayed as Numbers (same as today)

Let me know if that interests you. I'll be out of town for about a week, but will contact that league the week of October 20th if you guys want to propose a merger.


Hi, I'm commish of the TJL, I came looking to talk to you all on a possible merge, by the description admin posted above it seems we may be the ones he had in mind.
Admin

October 20, 2014 at 09:15PM View BBCode

Ok, the other league is the Tommy John League. I've posted on their board to see if they are interested - my hope is that they will be. If they are for it, I'll start working on the details of the merge by the end of the week.

Tyson
Hujik

October 20, 2014 at 09:43PM View BBCode

Four of the JLL owners, myself included, are also TJL owners. I believe 3 JLL teams are currently not being managed by their owner. Each league also currently has three Bots. So, with 100% agreement to switch, I count there would be 19 potential owners. I know some owners have said they would not merge. It sounds like there might be enough for a 12 team league in there. The rules are relatively similar.
Admin

October 20, 2014 at 11:25PM View BBCode

I'll take a look at the teams and common owners, I hadn't realized there was 4 of you guys in both leagues. It may be better to just plug along like we are, or maybe look for another league that has less members in common.

Tyson
Admin

October 23, 2014 at 11:33PM View BBCode

Ok, so here's where things stand.

We have 4 owners in both leagues: lockjaw, Hujik, drh000, and rdmsqito.

Besides those guys, we have 3 dynastybots in the Tommy John League, 3 DynastyBots in the Johnny Logan League. There are 2 teams for sale in the JLL, and 1 in the TJL. So assuming everyone wanted to do the merge, we'd have just 19 owners left. Leonard and kittens said they would leave if the league merged, that leaves us with 17. I'm not sure if drh000 would want to keep one of his teams, so that puts us at 16 owners.

In that scenario, I think we are better off just playing with the Bots for now and look for another league.

One situation I thought of was allowing the guys with 2 teams to keep both of their teams. But that still leaves us with only 20 owners, and the guys in the TJL said they would only do the merger with 24 teams.

Sorry - if anyone has any other ideas, let me know. I'll think about this some more and see if I can find a better league to merge with that doesn't have so many duplicate owners.

Tyson
drh000

October 25, 2014 at 01:28PM View BBCode

I would not keep two teams in the same league under any circumstance

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