The_Old_Bear
4 20 Game Winners
August 14, 2017 at 07:52PM View BBCode
... and we finish 2nd in the NL. It was a great race. Really thought the Cubbies had my number. The Cards barely squeaked in.
CrazedCougars
August 14, 2017 at 08:53PM View BBCode
Meanwhile, Oakland only has three but wins 123 games anyways.
Good luck to all teams in the playoffs!
The_Old_Bear
August 15, 2017 at 05:17AM View BBCode
Well I am old enough to have actually witnessed the 1971 Baltimore Orioles. It was quite a team with 4 20s a very rare thing in baseball.
Can you imagine if I could have turned some of those 20+ 1 run games on my schedule this year into wins what might have happened.
ballmark
August 15, 2017 at 05:46AM View BBCode
Let's see if I remember, as I was around back then, too. It was:
Pat Dobson
Andy Cuellar
Mike M --- erg, can't remember his last name! (He was the Ace, too!)
Dave McNally
Well. Now I have to go look it up.
Didn't Oakland do it, too? With
Vida Blue
Catfish Hunter
...
...
Argh. Now I've gotta go look that up, too.
Hitnrun
August 15, 2017 at 12:02PM View BBCode
So who were the four 20 game winners for Baltimore? Was Palmer one of them?
CrazedCougars
August 15, 2017 at 12:56PM View BBCode
As a tried and true fan of the orange and blue, I remember that rotation well.
It was Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Mike Cueller, and Pat Dobson. Fortunately, none of those guys did much in the 1969 World Series. :D
CrazedCougars
August 15, 2017 at 01:00PM View BBCode
The only other instance of this was in 1920, with the rotation of the famed Chicago Black Sox.
Eddie Cicotte, Lefty Williams, Red Faber, Dick Kerr. Arguably one of the stronger teams of their era, and one of the best in history.
The_Old_Bear
August 15, 2017 at 09:37PM View BBCode
Look at the Stats for the 1919 White Sox that was the actual year they threw the Series vs the Reds. 1920 got beat out by the Indians Jim Bagby and his 31 wins.
Cicotte was animal in '19 as where the rest of the team. They should have smoked the Reds. I can't remember what the numbers where but they were something like 12-1 odds before the Series.
CrazedCougars
August 16, 2017 at 12:52AM View formatted
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They would have won easily. I think they were down 4-1 in the series when the fix was canceled, and they almost brought it back but lost in the end 5-3. This was, of course, back during the era of a best of nine World Series.
The_Old_Bear
August 16, 2017 at 02:27PM View BBCode
Can you imagine all those guys getting lifetime bans.
They were some of the greatest of all time not just that era.
Who knows how different the landscape might have looked had they been there to take on the Yankee machine of the 20's.
What a crazy time for baseball and the world.
You ever play whatifsports.com used to be Strato-Matic baseball sim till I think FOX bought it. Have not played in years but it was fun to play with historical players.
CrazedCougars
August 31, 2017 at 11:39PM View BBCode
First St. Louis, and now Oakland. In a remarkable pitching season for Oakland, the A's rotation has truly outdone themselves. Four pitchers won 20+ games, three of them winning 25 or more. Each of the four had an ERA under 2.40, which led to a record team ERA of 2.44. Never seen anything quite like it before in this league. Oakland led in 7 pitching categories, and dominated the Cy Young race.
Otherwise, good luck to all playoff teams, especially to Chicago, who managed to beat out St. Louis to enter the playoff race this season.
On a real life note, hopefully nobody here was too effected by the recent events in Texas. No matter how you feel about it, incidents like Harvey are always unfortunate, so well-wishes to them and keep Texas in your thoughts!
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