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deanscubs
These steroid cheaters should be banned for life, and banned from the Hall of Fame.
Bonds to be Activated, Maybe Tonight
September 06, 2005 at 10:04PM View BBCode
I hope the first pitcher to face him beans him in the head.These steroid cheaters should be banned for life, and banned from the Hall of Fame.
ABDREW
September 06, 2005 at 10:10PM View BBCode
I hope there is someone right next to him with an empty cup 30 seconds after he is activated. He probably is clean but I say why not harrass him a bit.
yankeekid
September 06, 2005 at 11:47PM View BBCode
Yeah, so the guy beans him in the head. And then.... he gets his hands chopped off
youngallstar
September 06, 2005 at 11:54PM View BBCode
Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in all of baseball
yankeekid
September 06, 2005 at 11:58PM View BBCode
Um..... no. He is not overrated. His stats might not be as good as you would think of someone who is so well known, but you don't find a guy that dives into the stands for a foul ball every day. He is a good leadoff hitter with a pretty high average and he has made some unbelievable plays at shortstop. You also can't find someone who does as well as he does in October too often either. If you find someone, tell me.
yankeekid
September 07, 2005 at 12:00AM View BBCode
Did you just figure that out? We also play Boston 6 times before the end of the season.
youngallstar
September 07, 2005 at 12:03AM View BBCode
The Red Sox completely embarassed the Yanks last year. It was... brilliant
youngallstar
September 07, 2005 at 12:04AM View BBCode
Mike Young is better than Jeter in almost every category. If the Rangers ever find the pitching im sure he would be just as big of a stud in the playoffs as he is in the regular season. I'll get back to you when the Rangers find some pitching ( maybe never :( )
ME
I was starting to think that Jeter was no longer overrated because people had started to see his considerable defensive shortcomings and that he hasn't been an elite hitter for the past several years. Guess I was wrong.
September 07, 2005 at 12:08AM View BBCode
Originally posted by yankeekid
Um..... no. He is not overrated. His stats might not be as good as you would think of someone who is so well known, but you don't find a guy that dives into the stands for a foul ball every day. He is a good leadoff hitter with a pretty high average and he has made some unbelievable plays at shortstop. You also can't find someone who does as well as he does in October too often either. If you find someone, tell me.
I was starting to think that Jeter was no longer overrated because people had started to see his considerable defensive shortcomings and that he hasn't been an elite hitter for the past several years. Guess I was wrong.
yankeekid
September 07, 2005 at 12:10AM View BBCode
I need some other Yankee fans to help me here! I'm outnumbered. lol.
youngallstar
September 07, 2005 at 12:11AM View BBCode
skierdude will be sure to try and help you out when he discovers this thread ;)
yankeekid
September 07, 2005 at 12:13AM View BBCode
And Smocko, lol. Thats is the other Yankee fans name right? lol, I'm new to the board.
youngallstar
September 07, 2005 at 12:14AM View BBCode
jetpac is a yankee fan too. I cant think of any others
Smocko
September 07, 2005 at 12:24AM View BBCode
Well, he is certainly better than Nomar. We've won that one.
lvnwrth
Having said that, Derek Jeter is a fine, fine player and not particularly overrated compared to any other player on the media-favored teams.
September 07, 2005 at 12:24AM View BBCode
Yankee players in general tend to be overrated, as do players for the Red Sox, Dodgers, and Cubs (the clubs that get tons more media coverage than anyone else).Having said that, Derek Jeter is a fine, fine player and not particularly overrated compared to any other player on the media-favored teams.
ME
Jeter is 13th (Tejada is 6th, Young is 9th). This takes into account position played, but not defense. That makes him the 4th best SS in baseball (3rd of those that actually play SS).
[Edited on 9-7-2005 by ME]
September 07, 2005 at 12:26AM View BBCode
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=1Jeter is 13th (Tejada is 6th, Young is 9th). This takes into account position played, but not defense. That makes him the 4th best SS in baseball (3rd of those that actually play SS).
[Edited on 9-7-2005 by ME]
jetpac
September 07, 2005 at 12:30AM View BBCode
I'd say that that means Young is underrated more than Jeter overrated.
Smocko
It is nearly impossible to suggest that (excepting A-Rod) Tejada is not the best shortstop in the game.
September 07, 2005 at 12:35AM View BBCode
Michael Young is a younger player who should eventually get more attention, if he keeps up his performance. Jeter was a great story from the moment he entered the league (seriously, Kalamazoo Michigan is a crucial part of the American Dream) and may have the best marketing image of anyone in the game.It is nearly impossible to suggest that (excepting A-Rod) Tejada is not the best shortstop in the game.
FiveToolPlayer
I know people will disagree with me and they're the same people that will argue the Don Mattingly is a hall of famer. That's one of my favorite things to bring up in front of hard core Yankee fans. They get very very upset. :D
September 07, 2005 at 12:51AM View BBCode
While I don't think Jeter is a bad player and not even close, I think what a lot of Red Sox fans (including myself) think is that he's good and fairly clutch but would be the equivelant of an Edgar Renteria type if he played anywhere other than New York and was less "pretty". Both Jeter and Renteria are decent all around players (Jeter a better bat, Renteria a better glove) and both are clutch. Both should be borderline all stars every year. That being said, Renteria isn't treated like the second coming of christ the way Jeter is and that's what ticks people off. Also, you could easily argue that Jeter is the most overpaid player in the league. Marketable? Yes. Top 10 baseball player? No.I know people will disagree with me and they're the same people that will argue the Don Mattingly is a hall of famer. That's one of my favorite things to bring up in front of hard core Yankee fans. They get very very upset. :D
ME
September 07, 2005 at 12:53AM View BBCode
Jeter is much better than Renteria, both now and for the career.
Smocko
September 07, 2005 at 12:54AM View BBCode
Mattingly's not a Hall of Famer. Neither is Jim Rice.
yankeekid
September 07, 2005 at 12:57AM View BBCode
Jeter has just as good a glove as Renteria or better. Although Jeter may boot a few easier balls, he will make spectacular plays when it counts. Just to let you know, jeter has 13 errors and Renteria has 24. Renterias career fielding percentage is .968. Jeters is .975.Pages: 1 2