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ironhorse2ko
I didn't want to start too far back (say the 50's- 70's) since I never saw those guys play. However, I do want to make a case for A-Rod (strikeouts and all) as being my first choice after 1980 narrowly over Henderson (saw him towards the end, but great lasting power and production in runs), Bonds (questionable steriods use), Griffey (injuries slowed production and playing time), Pujols (Still has time to change my mind), Vlad Guerrero (Injuries slowed him down as well), and Ichiro (didn't play entire career in MLB).
Who's the best all-around baseball player, post 1980's?
September 07, 2008 at 08:32PM View BBCode
[color=Black]Who would get the nod?[/color]I didn't want to start too far back (say the 50's- 70's) since I never saw those guys play. However, I do want to make a case for A-Rod (strikeouts and all) as being my first choice after 1980 narrowly over Henderson (saw him towards the end, but great lasting power and production in runs), Bonds (questionable steriods use), Griffey (injuries slowed production and playing time), Pujols (Still has time to change my mind), Vlad Guerrero (Injuries slowed him down as well), and Ichiro (didn't play entire career in MLB).
dirtdevil
September 07, 2008 at 08:34PM View BBCode
barry bonds, without question. people forget that he won something like 5 mvp's and a slew of gold gloves BEFORE the roids.
ME
September 07, 2008 at 08:48PM View BBCode
Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez are the only ones in the argument.
barterer2002
Bonds
A-Rod
Clemens
Maddux
Johnson
Biggio
Griffey
Henderson
Raines
I. Rodriguez
September 07, 2008 at 10:08PM View BBCode
In order for players who played their entire career after 1980 (so not Brett, Schmidt, etc)Bonds
A-Rod
Clemens
Maddux
Johnson
Biggio
Griffey
Henderson
Raines
I. Rodriguez
Cubsfan13
I think you have Biggio too high.
September 07, 2008 at 10:18PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
In order for players who played their entire career after 1980 (so not Brett, Schmidt, etc)
Bonds
A-Rod
Clemens
Maddux
Johnson
Biggio
Griffey
Henderson
Raines
I. Rodriguez
I think you have Biggio too high.
ironhorse2ko
You can add Schmidt & Brett since they were still playing and were still in their primes. If you saw them while they were playing after 1980 and you would consider them on your list, that's cool as well.[color=Black][/color]
[Edited on 9-7-2008 by ironhorse2ko]
September 07, 2008 at 10:25PM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002[color=Black][/color]
In order for players who played their entire career after 1980 (so not Brett, Schmidt, etc)
Bonds
A-Rod
Clemens
Maddux
Johnson
Biggio
Griffey
Henderson
Raines
I. Rodriguez
You can add Schmidt & Brett since they were still playing and were still in their primes. If you saw them while they were playing after 1980 and you would consider them on your list, that's cool as well.[color=Black][/color]
[Edited on 9-7-2008 by ironhorse2ko]
dirtdevil
none.
(i think biggio is too high also)
September 07, 2008 at 10:33PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
No love for Jack Clark?
none.
(i think biggio is too high also)
Cubsfan13
We mustn't forget Wendel Clark.
September 07, 2008 at 10:37PM View BBCode
He deserves consideration, yes.We mustn't forget Wendel Clark.
whiskybear
[Edited on 9-7-2008 by whiskybear]
September 07, 2008 at 10:40PM View BBCode
Wendel's got nothing on William -- and I mean the explorer.[Edited on 9-7-2008 by whiskybear]
dirtdevil
September 07, 2008 at 10:44PM View formatted
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well sure, but can he score?
Hamilton2
funniest thing I've read today
September 07, 2008 at 10:58PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
Can he score? Please -- talk to Sacajawea.
funniest thing I've read today
Duff77
I think either Maddux or Clemens could make a case for pitchers.
September 08, 2008 at 01:14AM View BBCode
If you take roids out of the equation then it's clearly Bonds. If you don't, then you're head will probably explode. The fact that everyone hated him doesn't change the numbers--the man was the most dangerous hitter in the game for a very long time.I think either Maddux or Clemens could make a case for pitchers.
happy
and no love for will clark? or Clark Kent?
September 08, 2008 at 01:34AM View BBCode
Bonds is the second best player in the history of baseball.and no love for will clark? or Clark Kent?
whiskybear
Given the extenuating circumstances, I disagree with you.
September 08, 2008 at 02:41AM View BBCode
Originally posted by happy
Bonds is the second best player in the history of baseball.
Given the extenuating circumstances, I disagree with you.
happy
he had the 4 best seasons in the history of baseball.
September 08, 2008 at 05:12AM View BBCode
not taking into account the extenuating circumstances.he had the 4 best seasons in the history of baseball.
FuriousGiorge
September 08, 2008 at 05:36AM View BBCode
Also not taking into account baserunning, defense and general assholery.