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tworoosters
Some NBC idiot blogger has just called Thomas the "Most underrated hitter of All Time", personally I fail to see how a guy with two MVP Awards, and four other top 5 appearances, can be considered the most underrated hitter of all time but, whatever.
Thomas could flat out mash and even though he [url=http://majorleaguejerk.com/2010/02/have-a-nice-life-you-piece-of-human-excrement/]may not have been everyone's favorite person[/url] I gotta figure he's a sure thing HOFer but his "dickness" will probably keep him out on the first ballot .
Exit The Big Hurt
February 12, 2010 at 10:07PM View BBCode
Frank Thomas announced his retirement last night .Some NBC idiot blogger has just called Thomas the "Most underrated hitter of All Time", personally I fail to see how a guy with two MVP Awards, and four other top 5 appearances, can be considered the most underrated hitter of all time but, whatever.
Thomas could flat out mash and even though he [url=http://majorleaguejerk.com/2010/02/have-a-nice-life-you-piece-of-human-excrement/]may not have been everyone's favorite person[/url] I gotta figure he's a sure thing HOFer but his "dickness" will probably keep him out on the first ballot .
happy
February 12, 2010 at 10:10PM View BBCode
most underrated is stupid anyway. Of all time just makes it reach a new level of dumb.
shep1582
he's the poster child of posters who get no cred.
a poster poster.
February 12, 2010 at 10:16PM View BBCode
happy is the most underrated poster of all time.he's the poster child of posters who get no cred.
a poster poster.
Admin
Tyson
February 12, 2010 at 10:21PM View BBCode
I saw a link to a story on Baseball Reference about Frank Thomas and the title said something like, "We say good bye to Frank Thomas." I assumed he had died until I clicked through and read the story. I thought he'd been retired for a few years now.Tyson
FuriousGiorge
February 12, 2010 at 10:44PM View BBCode
Frank Thomas will get in on the first ballot.
tworoosters
As dirtdevil mentions his bat packed it in after the 2007 season, he played '08 in Toronto/Oakland and then couldn't find a job in '09 and so I guess he, unlike Barry Bonds, realized that his playing days were over.
February 12, 2010 at 10:53PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Admin
I saw a link to a story on Baseball Reference about Frank Thomas and the title said something like, "We say good bye to Frank Thomas." I assumed he had died until I clicked through and read the story. I thought he'd been retired for a few years now.
Tyson
As dirtdevil mentions his bat packed it in after the 2007 season, he played '08 in Toronto/Oakland and then couldn't find a job in '09 and so I guess he, unlike Barry Bonds, realized that his playing days were over.
shep1582
February 12, 2010 at 11:05PM View BBCode
I think someone would have given him a job last year if he wasn't "The Big A-hole".
albiez
This is the dumbest and most substance-free piece of writing I've read in some time, maybe ever. Since this jackass didn't bother to provide, well, any evidence that Frank Thomas is/was a tool, maybe someone else could? I remember some sniping back and forth with Kenny Williams (who is already a pretty-well established unpleasant person in his own right), but I honestly can't think of anything else bad that has been said about him. And he was very much at the forefront of players vocally against steroids from the beginning, and also had that physique from the beginning.
I am not saying that he's a saint, I don't know, but that is such a cowardly, lazy, and bullshit piece of writing that I don't think it should go unremarked upon. It is some Glenn Beck type ish right there.
February 13, 2010 at 01:03AM View BBCode
Originally posted by tworoosters
[url=http://majorleaguejerk.com/2010/02/have-a-nice-life-you-piece-of-human-excrement/]may not have been everyone's favorite person[/url]
This is the dumbest and most substance-free piece of writing I've read in some time, maybe ever. Since this jackass didn't bother to provide, well, any evidence that Frank Thomas is/was a tool, maybe someone else could? I remember some sniping back and forth with Kenny Williams (who is already a pretty-well established unpleasant person in his own right), but I honestly can't think of anything else bad that has been said about him. And he was very much at the forefront of players vocally against steroids from the beginning, and also had that physique from the beginning.
I am not saying that he's a saint, I don't know, but that is such a cowardly, lazy, and bullshit piece of writing that I don't think it should go unremarked upon. It is some Glenn Beck type ish right there.
shep1582
February 13, 2010 at 01:20AM View BBCode
" Auburn baseball coach Hal Baird told Sports Illustrated. "He was fun to be around?always smiling, always bright-eyed."
tworoosters
February 13, 2010 at 03:10AM View BBCode
Well [url=http://www.iowastatedaily.com/articles/2001/02/27/sports/20010227-archive3.txt]this guy[/url] didn't think much of Frank either .
albiez
February 13, 2010 at 05:39AM View BBCode
So he was unhappy with his pay, and some guy in Iowa made the same tired argument against him that has been made against athletes who are unhappy with their pay for the last fifty years. This is what we are using to make the case that he's an ass? Because this seems to me like the kind of thing that's usual in just about every field, and is not limited to jerks.
shep1582
Eddie Murray was never given glowing press, either. There were always comments like "moody", "unapproachable", etc. But his teammates respected and liked him.
Sportswriters ask the same stupid questions over and over. I'm thinking these guys just didn't like answering, and the press took it as them being surly.
February 13, 2010 at 08:56AM View BBCode
I'll admit I was wrong in my comment. I searched the web and couldn't find anything bad teammates have said about the guy. I haven't found many nice either though.Eddie Murray was never given glowing press, either. There were always comments like "moody", "unapproachable", etc. But his teammates respected and liked him.
Sportswriters ask the same stupid questions over and over. I'm thinking these guys just didn't like answering, and the press took it as them being surly.
thatrogue
lol again that the article referenced "future stars" such as Ray Durham and Jose Valentin, both of whom became solid players, but nowhere near Frank Thomas' class of hitter.
February 13, 2010 at 11:10AM View BBCode
lol that roosters referenced the Iowa State University newspaper website...from 2001.lol again that the article referenced "future stars" such as Ray Durham and Jose Valentin, both of whom became solid players, but nowhere near Frank Thomas' class of hitter.
sycophantman
(Really? Frank Thomas was just an intelligent guy who didn't suffer fools, and sadly, most sportswriters are fools. He's gotten a really bad rep from them that he doesn't deserve.)
February 13, 2010 at 01:04PM View BBCode
That piece on Thomas was just written by mr1313, or at least its in his style.(Really? Frank Thomas was just an intelligent guy who didn't suffer fools, and sadly, most sportswriters are fools. He's gotten a really bad rep from them that he doesn't deserve.)
tworoosters
He'll go up against Maddux, Glavine, Mussina and Jeff Kent as 1st year players in 2014 plus whoever is still "gaining ground", I don't like his first ballot chances .
The 2011 and 2012 classes are weak, only Bagwell really in those two classes so that clears the way for guys like Blyleven, Alomar, Larkin maybe Martinez or Raines along with Bagwell, maybe Larry Walker gets a few votes too .
2013 will be interesting to be sure with Bonds, Clemens and Sosa on the ballot but also Biggio, Schilling and Piazza .
February 13, 2010 at 05:33PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Frank Thomas will get in on the first ballot.
He'll go up against Maddux, Glavine, Mussina and Jeff Kent as 1st year players in 2014 plus whoever is still "gaining ground", I don't like his first ballot chances .
The 2011 and 2012 classes are weak, only Bagwell really in those two classes so that clears the way for guys like Blyleven, Alomar, Larkin maybe Martinez or Raines along with Bagwell, maybe Larry Walker gets a few votes too .
2013 will be interesting to be sure with Bonds, Clemens and Sosa on the ballot but also Biggio, Schilling and Piazza .
FuriousGiorge
February 13, 2010 at 06:03PM View BBCode
You really think Frank Thomas is going to take a backseat to Mike Mussina and Jeff Kent? Maddux, Glavine, Frank Thomas, there's your class of 2014.
Tyles
Blyleven is getting in next year. Alomar, too. It really doesn't look good for Tim Raines. Biggio has the 3,000 hits (and is eminently worthy, anyway); Bagwell should be automatic, too.
Who knows where steroids are in the game's consciousness by 2013 -- if not much has changed, Bonds and Clemens and certainly Sosa could get the McGwire treatment. Schilling will get in eventually, which is more than that ass hole deserves. Piazza caught the steroid rumors and the gay, so call him a maybe.
February 13, 2010 at 06:06PM View BBCode
Frank Thomas is one of the best hitters of his generation. Sure, Maddux and (maybe) Glavine are more "automatic" HOFers, but to suggest he'll lose traction to Mussina and Jeff Kent would suggest you're as clueless as the BBWAA -- in which case, you might be on to something.Blyleven is getting in next year. Alomar, too. It really doesn't look good for Tim Raines. Biggio has the 3,000 hits (and is eminently worthy, anyway); Bagwell should be automatic, too.
Who knows where steroids are in the game's consciousness by 2013 -- if not much has changed, Bonds and Clemens and certainly Sosa could get the McGwire treatment. Schilling will get in eventually, which is more than that ass hole deserves. Piazza caught the steroid rumors and the gay, so call him a maybe.
tworoosters
You really think Frank Thomas is going to take a backseat to Mike Mussina and Jeff Kent? Maddux, Glavine, Frank Thomas, there's your class of 2014. [/quote]
The last time the HOF had 3 guys voted in was 1999: Ryan, Brett and Yount I don't like the chances of it happening again in 2014.
[quote][i]originally posted by Tyles[/i]
Frank Thomas is one of the best hitters of his generation. Sure, Maddux and (maybe) Glavine are more "automatic" HOFers, but to suggest he'll lose traction to Mussina and Jeff Kent would suggest you're as clueless as the BBWAA -- in which case, you might be on to something.[/quote]
I'm not arguing Thomas' HOF credentials but if you [b]don't[/b] think he'll lose votes to Kent, an MVP and 5 time All Star who played defense and Mussina with 270 wins then you are kidding yourself.
February 13, 2010 at 06:37PM View formatted
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[quote][i]Originally posted by FuriousGiorge[/i]
You really think Frank Thomas is going to take a backseat to Mike Mussina and Jeff Kent? Maddux, Glavine, Frank Thomas, there's your class of 2014. [/quote]
The last time the HOF had 3 guys voted in was 1999: Ryan, Brett and Yount I don't like the chances of it happening again in 2014.
[quote][i]originally posted by Tyles[/i]
Frank Thomas is one of the best hitters of his generation. Sure, Maddux and (maybe) Glavine are more "automatic" HOFers, but to suggest he'll lose traction to Mussina and Jeff Kent would suggest you're as clueless as the BBWAA -- in which case, you might be on to something.[/quote]
I'm not arguing Thomas' HOF credentials but if you [b]don't[/b] think he'll lose votes to Kent, an MVP and 5 time All Star who played defense and Mussina with 270 wins then you are kidding yourself.
Tyles
February 13, 2010 at 06:46PM View BBCode
Honestly, I don't think a guy with 500+ home runs, a .300 AVG (which matters to probably a ton of voters), a .974 OPS (which matters to very few voters, but still, NINE-SEVENTY-FOUR) and two MVPs is going to lose too many votes to Jeff Kent or Mike Mussina. I don't see too many guys saying, "You know, Jeff Kent and/or Mike Mussina get my vote, but I'm leaving Frank Thomas off my ballot. Too prickly."
tworoosters
February 13, 2010 at 08:58PM View BBCode
Bruce Sutter's in the HOF - these people are not rational .
Tyles
February 13, 2010 at 09:08PM View BBCode
I know they're not rational, which is exactly why you're emboldened to make this kind of point. I just don't think they're that stupid. He's got the credentials, and perhaps more importantly, he seems to be free and clear of the specter of PEDs. Maybe the voters flub it on his first try, but it won't be because they saw Mike Mussina and Jeff fucking Kent on the same ballot.
shep1582
they are, apparently, morons.
February 13, 2010 at 09:34PM View BBCode
they elected Jim Rice.they are, apparently, morons.
Kingturtle
February 14, 2010 at 09:29PM View BBCode
sorry. only six seasons playing a regular position. all the rest was DH. no career DHers are allowed in my Hall of Fame.Pages: 1 2