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ironhorse2ko
In the situation where someone turns in a blank ballot, they must then defend their decision in an editorial in ESPN Maginzine. And if it doesn't hold up..they will be stripped of their "responsibilities".
But honestly it's crazy how much power these writers have concerning this. Bob Costas would be my sole pick as a voter. At least he makes plausible agruements.
If I could make one change for hall of fame voters I would...
February 19, 2010 at 04:21AM View BBCode
Make a rule that requires every voter to use their vote. How is it possible for you to turn in a blank ballot? When I hear some voters do it because they have a "scared duty" to uphold and this , that and the other it makes me sick. Ok, so you have a problem with a steriod user on the ballot. Fine, don't vote for that person or leave an entire ballot blank. Not only is that selffish, but you are taking away a vote for someone that deserves it. Perhaps this is really why it took Rice so long to get in.In the situation where someone turns in a blank ballot, they must then defend their decision in an editorial in ESPN Maginzine. And if it doesn't hold up..they will be stripped of their "responsibilities".
But honestly it's crazy how much power these writers have concerning this. Bob Costas would be my sole pick as a voter. At least he makes plausible agruements.
Tyles
Shep!
February 19, 2010 at 04:29AM View BBCode
Originally posted by ironhorse2ko
Perhaps this is really why it took Rice so long to get in.
Shep!
ironhorse2ko
February 19, 2010 at 04:51AM View BBCode
Just hear me out. If you could make a requirement for the voters..what...would...it...be? There.
dirtdevil
February 19, 2010 at 04:54AM View BBCode
that they vote for tim raines and roberto alomar, probably.
ironhorse2ko
Nice one.
February 19, 2010 at 04:58AM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
that they vote for tim raines and roberto alomar, probably.
Nice one.
BKCUBS13
but you are taking away a vote for someone that deserves it. Perhaps this is really why it took Rice so long to get in.[/quote]
Oh no you didn't! Did Shep read this?
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[quote][i]Originally posted by ironhorse2ko[/i]
but you are taking away a vote for someone that deserves it. Perhaps this is really why it took Rice so long to get in.[/quote]
Oh no you didn't! Did Shep read this?
shep1582
My rule would be (drum roll please) that you ain't stupid enough to vote for Jim Rice.
February 19, 2010 at 05:48AM View BBCode
:lol:My rule would be (drum roll please) that you ain't stupid enough to vote for Jim Rice.
ironhorse2ko
February 19, 2010 at 04:50PM View BBCode
I think I might have opened Pandoras box for Shep. My bad.
tworoosters
February 19, 2010 at 04:55PM View BBCode
I'd want anyone who voted for Bruce Sutter and not Goose Gossage, when they were both on the ballot, to have their voting privileges rescinded .
shep1582
when Jim Rice was elected.
and I agree with rooster, all RP's should be in the HOF.
February 19, 2010 at 05:11PM View BBCode
that box was obliterated long ago, my friend.when Jim Rice was elected.
and I agree with rooster, all RP's should be in the HOF.
tworoosters
Um, I'm not sure where I said that .
February 19, 2010 at 05:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
and I agree with rooster, all RP's should be in the HOF.
Um, I'm not sure where I said that .
dirtdevil
February 19, 2010 at 05:13PM View BBCode
jim rice was a demonstrably better hitter than andre dawson.
tworoosters
Rice was certainly a better hitter in the friendly confines of Fenway but he was nowhere near the defensive player that Dawson was plus Dawson was a tad bit better at running the bases.
Plus, of course, two wrongs don't make a right .
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by tworoosters]
February 19, 2010 at 05:17PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
jim rice was a demonstrably better hitter than andre dawson.
Rice was certainly a better hitter in the friendly confines of Fenway but he was nowhere near the defensive player that Dawson was plus Dawson was a tad bit better at running the bases.
Plus, of course, two wrongs don't make a right .
[Edited on 2-19-2010 by tworoosters]
shep1582
neither selection was very good.
February 19, 2010 at 05:23PM View BBCode
barely, deke, and Dawson was better in every other aspect: fielding, baserunning, and played CF rather than LF.neither selection was very good.
tm4559
i guess that was why it got in one year sooner?
(no need to downgrade the hawk with rice comparsions. rice was a little better hitter, right handed in a baby ballpark. hell, mike lowell had an altogether decent year there, if you can hit the fly ball to left, that's a double. dawson was a better player than rice. they don't vote for just hitting, they vote for the whole player.)
i mean, the worst thing you can say about dawson, really, is his obp was not great. dawson didn't run the teams he played for. they put him in the middle of the order and told him to knock in the run. he was not encouraged to walk, and he didn't. it was not his job.
February 19, 2010 at 06:21PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
jim rice was a demonstrably better hitter than andre dawson.
i guess that was why it got in one year sooner?
(no need to downgrade the hawk with rice comparsions. rice was a little better hitter, right handed in a baby ballpark. hell, mike lowell had an altogether decent year there, if you can hit the fly ball to left, that's a double. dawson was a better player than rice. they don't vote for just hitting, they vote for the whole player.)
i mean, the worst thing you can say about dawson, really, is his obp was not great. dawson didn't run the teams he played for. they put him in the middle of the order and told him to knock in the run. he was not encouraged to walk, and he didn't. it was not his job.
cubfan531
February 22, 2010 at 10:21AM View BBCode
Perhaps x number of consecutive years of blank ballots would be a better stance for rescinding HOF voting privileges. There's no way you can feel year after year nobody's good enough. That's what the Veteran's Committee is for.Pages: 1