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thatrogue
The NCAA blatantly panders to its corporate interests, yet punishes the players for selling items they owned? Can we just stop this now...?
The NCAA continues to disgust me
December 24, 2010 at 06:12PM View BBCode
So the OSU players infractions are severe enough to warrant a [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5950873]FIVE GAME SUSPENSION[/url] (despite an admitted lack of clarity of the rules)...but not significant enough to cause the players to sit out the Bowl game?The NCAA blatantly panders to its corporate interests, yet punishes the players for selling items they owned? Can we just stop this now...?
barterer2002
Deeper issue here is payments to players. I completely understand the need to prevent boosters from buying high school players to come to their university. Well maybe not completely but I understand the argument behind it however these players should have the ability to earn some money during college. When I was in college most of the school had some sort of job, whether it be on campus in the dining hall or school store or off campus earning a little extra money. I personally found the need to supliment my beer money early in my senior year and took a part time job cashiering at KMart. Nothing ritzy, nothing glamerous but it kept me in beer that year. Athletes at these schools, however, can't. The part time job option is off the table for them. Some of them come from poorer families so the First National Bank of Dad isn't something that's open to them. There has to be a way for them to earn extra spending money that falls within NCAA guidelines.
December 25, 2010 at 01:02AM View BBCode
Obviously the ruling here is wrong. Just plain wrong. Suspensions should always begin immediately (although if that were the case the NCAA would have just dragged it out two weeks).Deeper issue here is payments to players. I completely understand the need to prevent boosters from buying high school players to come to their university. Well maybe not completely but I understand the argument behind it however these players should have the ability to earn some money during college. When I was in college most of the school had some sort of job, whether it be on campus in the dining hall or school store or off campus earning a little extra money. I personally found the need to supliment my beer money early in my senior year and took a part time job cashiering at KMart. Nothing ritzy, nothing glamerous but it kept me in beer that year. Athletes at these schools, however, can't. The part time job option is off the table for them. Some of them come from poorer families so the First National Bank of Dad isn't something that's open to them. There has to be a way for them to earn extra spending money that falls within NCAA guidelines.
dirtdevil
your dad selling your services to the highest bidder for upwards of $150,000 in flagrant violation of a very clear regulation = suspension for 2 quarters
selling some autographs and memorabilla for about $1,500 in violation of comparatively more murky regulation = suspension for 5 games
huh?
December 25, 2010 at 04:56AM View BBCode
you guys make great points and i agree wholeheartedly with both of you. what i really find confusing though, are the followin equations:your dad selling your services to the highest bidder for upwards of $150,000 in flagrant violation of a very clear regulation = suspension for 2 quarters
selling some autographs and memorabilla for about $1,500 in violation of comparatively more murky regulation = suspension for 5 games
huh?
tm4559
December 25, 2010 at 05:39PM View BBCode
shrug. it's all just dumb. these guys have this dream they're going to go the NFL and make all this money. few do. even then ones that get to the NFL have a short life span there, for the most part. its time to just put aside the fiction of the student athlete (at least in division 1) and pay these kids to play. for most of them, its the only money they will ever see out of it. why should they continue to help bring all this money to the schools and get nothing?
khazim
Or decided to have an independent investigator take care fo the Cam Newton situation before the NCAA decided they might want to look into this. And the independent investigator? The freaking FBI.
Or Nick Saban voluntarily abandoning wins from a season where there were sketchy recruiting violations beofre the NCAA decided hwo best to handle the situation
Seems that the SEC still remembers SMU and the old Southwest conference's violations of policy and doesn't want to remotely run the risk of any issues.
The OSU suspension are utter horsecrap.
December 26, 2010 at 05:38PM View BBCode
and yet LSU, another SEC team, goes ahead and suspends it's starting running back for the bowl game due to academics.Or decided to have an independent investigator take care fo the Cam Newton situation before the NCAA decided they might want to look into this. And the independent investigator? The freaking FBI.
Or Nick Saban voluntarily abandoning wins from a season where there were sketchy recruiting violations beofre the NCAA decided hwo best to handle the situation
Seems that the SEC still remembers SMU and the old Southwest conference's violations of policy and doesn't want to remotely run the risk of any issues.
The OSU suspension are utter horsecrap.
bobcat73
January 10, 2011 at 10:31PM View BBCode
Free school is pretty good. I am not sure what money they should be paid unless it is minimum wage for practice time which would be when they could be out getting a job. I dont see that it should be much more money than that if you want to maintain the "student" part of student athlete.
dirtdevil
January 11, 2011 at 04:07AM View formatted
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anyone who legitimately thinks most division 1 football (or basketball- one and done, anybody?) players are there for an education is naive in the extreme. anyone who thinks they aren't worth many millions to their various institutions than the value of their scholarships could use a lesson in basic economics, frankly.
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