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NL MVP: [color=red]Barry Bonds[/color] (no surprise here) .366-.621-.861 only thing that goes against him is that he only played 41 games.
AL MVP: [color=red]Melvin Mora[/color] .384-.466-.616 (47G, also 7SB/2CS), close second is Manny Ramirez .349-.442-.651 (50G, 1SB/2CS). Ramirez has a slightly higher OPS but Mora has better batting and on-base, and is better at defense and has better speed.
NL CY: [color=red]Tom Glavine[/color] (2.17 ERA in 74.2 IP), a few others (Zambrano, Clemens, Penny) are not far behind.
AL CY: No one stands out. Schilling, Mulder, or Rogers toss up, a few others not far behind. I'll give it to [color=red]Kenny Rogers[/color] since he pitches in Texas.
Here are the teams that would make the playoffs:
AL EAST: Yankees
AL CENTRAL: White Sox
AL WEST: Angles
AL WILD CARD: Red Sox
NL EAST: Florida
NL CENTRAL: Cincinnati
NL WEST: Los Angeles/San Diego one game playoff
NL WILD CARD: Houston/St. Louis/(LA/SD playoff loser)
June 1st awards
June 02, 2004 at 04:05AM View BBCode
MLB awards for June 1st:NL MVP: [color=red]Barry Bonds[/color] (no surprise here) .366-.621-.861 only thing that goes against him is that he only played 41 games.
AL MVP: [color=red]Melvin Mora[/color] .384-.466-.616 (47G, also 7SB/2CS), close second is Manny Ramirez .349-.442-.651 (50G, 1SB/2CS). Ramirez has a slightly higher OPS but Mora has better batting and on-base, and is better at defense and has better speed.
NL CY: [color=red]Tom Glavine[/color] (2.17 ERA in 74.2 IP), a few others (Zambrano, Clemens, Penny) are not far behind.
AL CY: No one stands out. Schilling, Mulder, or Rogers toss up, a few others not far behind. I'll give it to [color=red]Kenny Rogers[/color] since he pitches in Texas.
Here are the teams that would make the playoffs:
AL EAST: Yankees
AL CENTRAL: White Sox
AL WEST: Angles
AL WILD CARD: Red Sox
NL EAST: Florida
NL CENTRAL: Cincinnati
NL WEST: Los Angeles/San Diego one game playoff
NL WILD CARD: Houston/St. Louis/(LA/SD playoff loser)
Unclescam777
June 02, 2004 at 12:46PM View BBCode
I still think the Phillies are too good to lose. Give them the NL East, they'll snap out of it
Benne
June 02, 2004 at 02:42PM View BBCode
You forgot the ROY awards. oh well, there is really no standout rookie. The top prospects are struggling or injured (Joe Mauer, Kazuo Matsui).
happy
June 02, 2004 at 04:05PM View BBCode
you know, i dont know about rookies ever. Probably hobos will know who deserves to win. he seems to know about rookies and upcoming prospects way more than the rest of us.
Unclescam777
June 02, 2004 at 04:11PM View BBCode
I don't pay attention to rookies. Most of them end up struggling their first year. Switching to the pros is a hard transition. Being a Mets fan I have fallen in love with Kaz Matsui(not in the perverted way). Even though his numbers are slacking he is by far the most fundamentally sound player I've ever seen. He never makes stupid mistakes and he runs the bases like everybody should. Actually all Japanese players are better at the little things(I read an article in The Sporting News about this) because they focus on fundamentals so much more than Americans, but Kaz is the only one I actually watch because he's on my team.
hobos
Greene, Hawpe, Holliday, Tracy, Sledge, O Perez, and Bay have been good but most of them are slowing down. Hawpe and Holliday don't deserve because of where they play(Colorado) and I'm not really sure if Perez and Bay are considered rookies. Cordero has it hands down when Montreal learns that he is their best option at closer (or have they learned that?)
AL Rookie: ?????
They all seem to be injured. Mauer was all but guarunteed it in pre-season and then when he was injured, Laird looked like he would get it. Now Laird is injured and my options aren't as good. If Youkilis is given the 3B job, then his OBP could win it for him. Morneau and Kotchman have been good and are in the same predicament as Youkilis. Frasor, Duchscherer, and Gregg have been the best pitchers. I haven't followed the Baltimore Rookie pitchers, so one of them might not be too bad. Decide for youselves
June 03, 2004 at 12:18AM View BBCode
NL ROY: Chad CorderoGreene, Hawpe, Holliday, Tracy, Sledge, O Perez, and Bay have been good but most of them are slowing down. Hawpe and Holliday don't deserve because of where they play(Colorado) and I'm not really sure if Perez and Bay are considered rookies. Cordero has it hands down when Montreal learns that he is their best option at closer (or have they learned that?)
AL Rookie: ?????
They all seem to be injured. Mauer was all but guarunteed it in pre-season and then when he was injured, Laird looked like he would get it. Now Laird is injured and my options aren't as good. If Youkilis is given the 3B job, then his OBP could win it for him. Morneau and Kotchman have been good and are in the same predicament as Youkilis. Frasor, Duchscherer, and Gregg have been the best pitchers. I haven't followed the Baltimore Rookie pitchers, so one of them might not be too bad. Decide for youselves
jojo888
June 03, 2004 at 12:34AM View BBCode
Definitely Kotchman. I went to the Angel's game last night and saw him play.
FuriousGiorge
Actually all Japanese players are better at the little things(I read an article in The Sporting News about this) because they focus on fundamentals so much more than Americans[/quote]
This is the most predictable phenomenon in sports. If a guy is from overseas (well, Asia or Europe: Latins don't get the benefit of the doubt unless they're relatively light-skinned, like Manu Ginobili), you'll read dozens of stories about how much more fundamentally sound his game is. This is true of baseball players and basketball players, probably not so much with hockey players (since everyone is pretty much already white, Europeans are harder to single out). Ichiro is hyped as being a great fundamental player, both Matsuis, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol, Manu, Peja, etc. As long as the player does reasonably well, people say he has great fundamentals. I guess it's possible that all Americans are just lazy, out for the quick fix, too stupid to do the little things, whatever. But I think it's just possible that maybe this is overblown, that these guys play just like everybody else and writers call them great fundamental players because they're looking for an angle that both pleases the many fans of these players and also subtly takes a dig at the American-born players (especially the black ones) who seem distant to most writers.
June 03, 2004 at 12:54AM View formatted
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[quote][i]Originally posted by Unclescam777[/i]
Actually all Japanese players are better at the little things(I read an article in The Sporting News about this) because they focus on fundamentals so much more than Americans[/quote]
This is the most predictable phenomenon in sports. If a guy is from overseas (well, Asia or Europe: Latins don't get the benefit of the doubt unless they're relatively light-skinned, like Manu Ginobili), you'll read dozens of stories about how much more fundamentally sound his game is. This is true of baseball players and basketball players, probably not so much with hockey players (since everyone is pretty much already white, Europeans are harder to single out). Ichiro is hyped as being a great fundamental player, both Matsuis, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol, Manu, Peja, etc. As long as the player does reasonably well, people say he has great fundamentals. I guess it's possible that all Americans are just lazy, out for the quick fix, too stupid to do the little things, whatever. But I think it's just possible that maybe this is overblown, that these guys play just like everybody else and writers call them great fundamental players because they're looking for an angle that both pleases the many fans of these players and also subtly takes a dig at the American-born players (especially the black ones) who seem distant to most writers.
ME
Chad Cordero 30.1 IP 1.48 ERA (25K, 17BB, 2HR)
he deserves NL RoY so far, though his ERA will go up as the season goes on.
June 03, 2004 at 04:10AM View BBCode
The Angles rookies could lose their jobs when Erstad(even though he sucks)/Salmon/Anderson come back. Glaus is not suppose to come back this year but Figgins is playing 3rd for him. Youkilis could lose time when Mueller comes back, but if Youkilis keeps playing well than he could see time as part-time 3B or DH. The Orioles rookie pitchers all suck.Chad Cordero 30.1 IP 1.48 ERA (25K, 17BB, 2HR)
he deserves NL RoY so far, though his ERA will go up as the season goes on.
whiskybear
I agree there might be something to your thesis, but Ichiro IS truly great at the fundamentals: defense, base running, moving runners over, hitting with men in scoring position, an excellent bunter, etc. I've watched him almost daily for as long as he's been in the league, and it is more than hype.
June 03, 2004 at 08:52AM View BBCode
Ichiro is hyped as being a great fundamental player...
I agree there might be something to your thesis, but Ichiro IS truly great at the fundamentals: defense, base running, moving runners over, hitting with men in scoring position, an excellent bunter, etc. I've watched him almost daily for as long as he's been in the league, and it is more than hype.
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