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irishman36
Am I correct in thinking that this is wrong?
Incorrect playoff seeding?
May 04, 2014 at 11:38PM View BBCode
In the zeta 2021 season just ended 3 teams tied in the National conference for the last 2 playoff spots. Birmingham, Hamilton and Anaheim. Anaheim defeated Birmingham in the regular season so they should get one of the spots due to that I believe. Birmingham never played Hamilton and had a better conference record so should receive the 2nd spot yet Hamilton received the playoff bid,Am I correct in thinking that this is wrong?
tworoosters
Hamilton defeated Anaheim and Anaheim defeated Birmingham so both Hamilton and Anaheim have a "head to head" win whereas Birmingham does not so Hamilton and Anaheim get the wild card spots and Birmingham is out in the cold.
Comparing by head-to-head record...
HAM vs. BIR: 0-0-0 (.000)
HAM vs. ANA: 1-0-0 (1.000)
BIR vs. HAM: 0-0-0 (.000)
BIR vs. ANA: 0-1-0 (.000)
ANA vs. HAM: 0-1-0 (.000)
ANA vs. BIR: 1-0-0 (1.000)
HAM has 1 head-to-head record win, moved to standings order 5
ANA has 1 head-to-head record win, moved to standings order 5
May 05, 2014 at 12:15AM View BBCode
You are not correct, even though Hamilton and Birmingham did not play .Hamilton defeated Anaheim and Anaheim defeated Birmingham so both Hamilton and Anaheim have a "head to head" win whereas Birmingham does not so Hamilton and Anaheim get the wild card spots and Birmingham is out in the cold.
Comparing by head-to-head record...
HAM vs. BIR: 0-0-0 (.000)
HAM vs. ANA: 1-0-0 (1.000)
BIR vs. HAM: 0-0-0 (.000)
BIR vs. ANA: 0-1-0 (.000)
ANA vs. HAM: 0-1-0 (.000)
ANA vs. BIR: 1-0-0 (1.000)
HAM has 1 head-to-head record win, moved to standings order 5
ANA has 1 head-to-head record win, moved to standings order 5
RichNYC1
May 05, 2014 at 02:45PM View BBCode
What is incorrect and this has been happening regularly is that the WC team is getting the home game in the Conf Championship in the AFC.
RichNYC1
May 05, 2014 at 02:49PM View formatted
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I wish I had seen that before the game started, itīs heavy snow and wind in NYC today. I would have opened my dome to try to stop the Casper offensive :saint:
dirtdevil
It's set up as a tournament. It doesn't reseed. So whichever team comes of the bracket that had the top seed in it will get home field.
May 05, 2014 at 07:22PM View BBCode
Originally posted by RichNYC1
What is incorrect and this has been happening regularly is that the WC team is getting the home game in the Conf Championship in the AFC.
It's set up as a tournament. It doesn't reseed. So whichever team comes of the bracket that had the top seed in it will get home field.
RichNYC1
Cannon, with the big arm and high execution I can understand but Rokisky is a total enigma to me. If he was throwing short OK because of the high THA, but 81 THP is not a big arm and he is chucking it. 217 throws over 20 yards this season with only 6 picks. Obviously some of that is luck, he did have 13 picks the year before, but no one else is coming even close to throwing that deep as much as you guys are and the next closest teams, Norfolk, Cinncy, Hamilton and Minny, are completing it in the 30+% range and not winning, so itīs not like you can just throw bombs all day and win. I don't know how are doing it but it is amazing.
One thing I do see is that your team, for all of its passing genius, has a WR, O'Brien, averaging 5.0 per carry and the offense 126 YPG. That's not a small thing. Throwing for 330+ per game is easy if you don't run, but add the 120+ yards on the ground and its basically unstoppable.
May 05, 2014 at 08:48PM View BBCode
Missed the game... but your back-up, if you can call him that, seemed to do well enough. I still can't figure out how to really stop your offense without having 35 min+ ball possession. It doesn't seem to matter which QB is in there.Cannon, with the big arm and high execution I can understand but Rokisky is a total enigma to me. If he was throwing short OK because of the high THA, but 81 THP is not a big arm and he is chucking it. 217 throws over 20 yards this season with only 6 picks. Obviously some of that is luck, he did have 13 picks the year before, but no one else is coming even close to throwing that deep as much as you guys are and the next closest teams, Norfolk, Cinncy, Hamilton and Minny, are completing it in the 30+% range and not winning, so itīs not like you can just throw bombs all day and win. I don't know how are doing it but it is amazing.
One thing I do see is that your team, for all of its passing genius, has a WR, O'Brien, averaging 5.0 per carry and the offense 126 YPG. That's not a small thing. Throwing for 330+ per game is easy if you don't run, but add the 120+ yards on the ground and its basically unstoppable.
RichNYC1
I understand, but if I remember correctly that was not the original intention and it shouldn't be that way.
This season was the perfect example. We, along with Edmonton slugged it out all year. In fact we each went 1-1 vs. the other. Edmonton lost one other game so heīs the last WC and PHX won the tie breaker against us so we get the 5th seed. Once through the WC round Edmonton got PHX who I think seeded #1 overall and we got Indy who was #2, that part is right. And while right now there is no "home field advantage" it not right that PHX, with that offense, could have had to play that game in a snowstorm after all they did to get the home field. Fortunately, (for him) I missed the game or I would have opened the roof. ;)
There is no there other way to stop him!
[Edited on 10/04/06 by RichNYC1]
May 05, 2014 at 09:11PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
Originally posted by RichNYC1
What is incorrect and this has been happening regularly is that the WC team is getting the home game in the Conf Championship in the AFC.
It's set up as a tournament. It doesn't reseed. So whichever team comes of the bracket that had the top seed in it will get home field.
I understand, but if I remember correctly that was not the original intention and it shouldn't be that way.
This season was the perfect example. We, along with Edmonton slugged it out all year. In fact we each went 1-1 vs. the other. Edmonton lost one other game so heīs the last WC and PHX won the tie breaker against us so we get the 5th seed. Once through the WC round Edmonton got PHX who I think seeded #1 overall and we got Indy who was #2, that part is right. And while right now there is no "home field advantage" it not right that PHX, with that offense, could have had to play that game in a snowstorm after all they did to get the home field. Fortunately, (for him) I missed the game or I would have opened the roof. ;)
There is no there other way to stop him!
[Edited on 10/04/06 by RichNYC1]
dirtdevil
I haven't taken a real good look at what he's doing, but I'm inclined to say that there's something that can be done to stop it, or at least slow it down. one of the difficulties with teams like this in beta though, is that you often need to tailor a defence designed specifically to stop what that one team does. and with so many games per day here, getting that defence in for that game, and only that game, is pretty tricky.
May 06, 2014 at 06:57PM View BBCode
Originally posted by RichNYC1
One thing I do see is that your team, for all of its passing genius, has a WR, O'Brien, averaging 5.0 per carry and the offense 126 YPG. That's not a small thing. Throwing for 330+ per game is easy if you don't run, but add the 120+ yards on the ground and its basically unstoppable.
I haven't taken a real good look at what he's doing, but I'm inclined to say that there's something that can be done to stop it, or at least slow it down. one of the difficulties with teams like this in beta though, is that you often need to tailor a defence designed specifically to stop what that one team does. and with so many games per day here, getting that defence in for that game, and only that game, is pretty tricky.
casperthegm
May 06, 2014 at 07:04PM View BBCode
There's no stopping us Dirt. Don't even bother trying.
Hodor
OLine > WRs > QB.
A decent QB usually is more than enough.
And for when that's not enough, then check dirt's points about tailored defenses.
At least that's the way I see it.
May 06, 2014 at 07:53PM View BBCode
Originally posted by RichNYC1
Cannon, with the big arm and high execution I can understand but Rokisky is a total enigma to me. If he was throwing short OK because of the high THA, but 81 THP is not a big arm and he is chucking it. 217 throws over 20 yards this season with only 6 picks. Obviously some of that is luck, he did have 13 picks the year before, but no one else is coming even close to throwing that deep as much as you guys are and the next closest teams, Norfolk, Cinncy, Hamilton and Minny, are completing it in the 30+% range and not winning, so itīs not like you can just throw bombs all day and win. I don't know how are doing it but it is amazing.
OLine > WRs > QB.
A decent QB usually is more than enough.
And for when that's not enough, then check dirt's points about tailored defenses.
At least that's the way I see it.
RichNYC1
What I was trying to say is that he has figured out a way to successfully throw deep and mix it up with a strong ground game better than anyone else.
PHX threw deep 274 times. The next closest team threw deep 233 times, the 3rd 179 times and the 4th 178 times. None of those other 4 teams were really competitive and no other team threw deep more than 170 times. Of the 8 teams that threw deep the most only PHX made the playoffs, so itīs not like itīs a fluke or a glitch and all you have to do is call Long Pass and Long Shotgun, you have to do be able to do it well. Heīs created a true a vertical passing scheme and a strong running game unlike anything Ive seen before. He just does it better than everyone else.
Casp is a good player and good buddy, but that doesn't mean I gonna let him keep doing it. The ZETA AFC East has always been the group of death, we will just have to figure something out to stop this. ;) And of course hope we that we get a heavy snow day for the next playoff game in NY.
May 06, 2014 at 09:02PM View BBCode
Sometimes I don't make my point clearly. We beat them once and held them to 15 points. In our other regular season game we held to them to 10 points through 3 quarters and were up 22-17 late before giving up two turnovers which went for the final 14 points. It not like we are being embarrassed.What I was trying to say is that he has figured out a way to successfully throw deep and mix it up with a strong ground game better than anyone else.
PHX threw deep 274 times. The next closest team threw deep 233 times, the 3rd 179 times and the 4th 178 times. None of those other 4 teams were really competitive and no other team threw deep more than 170 times. Of the 8 teams that threw deep the most only PHX made the playoffs, so itīs not like itīs a fluke or a glitch and all you have to do is call Long Pass and Long Shotgun, you have to do be able to do it well. Heīs created a true a vertical passing scheme and a strong running game unlike anything Ive seen before. He just does it better than everyone else.
Casp is a good player and good buddy, but that doesn't mean I gonna let him keep doing it. The ZETA AFC East has always been the group of death, we will just have to figure something out to stop this. ;) And of course hope we that we get a heavy snow day for the next playoff game in NY.
casperthegm
May 06, 2014 at 10:35PM View BBCode
If only I could translate it over to my pay leagues....Pages: 1