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WillyD
Time to fix how doubles occur.
November 13, 2014 at 04:29AM View BBCode
How does [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?mode=player&playername=nobody&id=10871050]this guy[/url] not get 40 doubles every year, let alone not even once? 204 hits and .376 average. 100 contact, 89 power, 99 speed. If this guy can't do it, there's something wrong with the way doubles are produced in the sim. I've had a lot of great hitters and never had a guy get 50 doubles. I've seen it once in all my sim seasons.
DwightKSchrute
Lol counting stats.
November 13, 2014 at 09:42PM View BBCode
Of all major leaguers who hit 40 doubles last season only one (Trevor Plouffe) played in fewer than 153 games. The guy's health kills his counting stats.Lol counting stats.
WillyD
Of all major leaguers who hit 40 doubles last season only one (Trevor Plouffe) played in fewer than 153 games. The guy's health kills his counting stats.
Lol counting stats. [/quote]
So I guess you don't care if any of your players even hit 20 doubles, or none at all, because they're just counting stats. That's just silly. So what if A+ power hitters can just hit 15 HR's a year? Gimme a break. LOL
This is about frequency of a certain type of play. We have leagues that have been around for 100 seasons that have never had a 50 double guy, rarely have a 40 double guy. Teams with 300 doubles are rare in the sim.
My guess is that the base chance of it happening is just too low. Players with good speed and power do (and should)hit more doubles than do players with low speed in the sim, but good contact hitters with average speed and power shouldn't be that far behind. Many more doubles in real baseball occur because of placement, than they do because of power or speed.
I guy like Glenn (shown above) is likely getting his doubles strictly because he's fast and strong.
Then there's [b][url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?player=nobody&mode=stats&id=11086239]this guy[/url][/b] who couldn't even reach 10 doubles in 2 different full seasons. He had red letter contact and B+ or A- speed since being promoted.
Tyson had admitted doubles as a whole were low in an earlier post (a year or so ago). Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in the near future.
November 13, 2014 at 11:34PM View formatted
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[quote][i]Originally posted by DwightKSchrute[/i]
Of all major leaguers who hit 40 doubles last season only one (Trevor Plouffe) played in fewer than 153 games. The guy's health kills his counting stats.
Lol counting stats. [/quote]
So I guess you don't care if any of your players even hit 20 doubles, or none at all, because they're just counting stats. That's just silly. So what if A+ power hitters can just hit 15 HR's a year? Gimme a break. LOL
This is about frequency of a certain type of play. We have leagues that have been around for 100 seasons that have never had a 50 double guy, rarely have a 40 double guy. Teams with 300 doubles are rare in the sim.
My guess is that the base chance of it happening is just too low. Players with good speed and power do (and should)hit more doubles than do players with low speed in the sim, but good contact hitters with average speed and power shouldn't be that far behind. Many more doubles in real baseball occur because of placement, than they do because of power or speed.
I guy like Glenn (shown above) is likely getting his doubles strictly because he's fast and strong.
Then there's [b][url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?player=nobody&mode=stats&id=11086239]this guy[/url][/b] who couldn't even reach 10 doubles in 2 different full seasons. He had red letter contact and B+ or A- speed since being promoted.
Tyson had admitted doubles as a whole were low in an earlier post (a year or so ago). Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in the near future.
paulcaraccio
November 15, 2014 at 08:02PM View BBCode
i didnt know doubles were low overall, i always just figured the distribution was too even. i agree it's obviously wrong. that guy with 9 doubles in over 500 ABs is pretty classic. waste of keystrokes to ask for it to be fixed though, ha.
tworoosters
Perhaps we should be more concerned with sim allowing players as bad offensively as Lenhardt to play in the majors.
November 16, 2014 at 01:32AM View BBCode
It's kind of hard to evaluate a hitter like [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=11086239&statsorimps=stats]that guy[/url] and say whether his doubles are too low because there simply are no comparables in MLB. Lenhardt, in his two single digit doubles seasons, had slugging %s of .241 and .270, the last time a"qualified" major league hitter had a slugging % below .270 was Cezar Izturis in 2010 who slugged .268. Cezar did have 13 doubles but only 1 triple and 1 HR so it's not like things were too far out of whack.Perhaps we should be more concerned with sim allowing players as bad offensively as Lenhardt to play in the majors.
WillyD
To be fair, he's played in one of the toughest pitching divisions I've ever seen, but that's bedsides the point.
Please tell me why the sim can't produce 50 double seasons by hitters on a more frequent basis? Why is it that an entire league has never had it happen once? In 89 seasons of the FRL, we've had 143 occurrences of 40 doubles. That's barely more than 1.5 times per season. How many times have you seen a team have 2 players with 40? A couple times every hundred years?
In MLB, since 1920 (the start of the live ball era) there's been 51 seasons (out of 95 total) that didn't produce a hitter with 50 doubles. [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/2B_top_ten.shtml]Check this out and tell me if your SimD leagues are anywhere close to it![/url]
[Edited on 11-16-2014 by WillyD]
November 16, 2014 at 03:04AM View BBCode
Originally posted by tworoosters
It's kind of hard to evaluate a hitter like [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=11086239&statsorimps=stats]that guy[/url] and say whether his doubles are too low because there simply are no comparables in MLB. Lenhardt, in his two single digit doubles seasons, had slugging %s of .241 and .270, the last time a"qualified" major league hitter had a slugging % below .270 was Cezar Izturis in 2010 who slugged .268. Cezar did have 13 doubles but only 1 triple and 1 HR so it's not like things were too far out of whack.
Perhaps we should be more concerned with sim allowing players as bad offensively as Lenhardt to play in the majors.
To be fair, he's played in one of the toughest pitching divisions I've ever seen, but that's bedsides the point.
Please tell me why the sim can't produce 50 double seasons by hitters on a more frequent basis? Why is it that an entire league has never had it happen once? In 89 seasons of the FRL, we've had 143 occurrences of 40 doubles. That's barely more than 1.5 times per season. How many times have you seen a team have 2 players with 40? A couple times every hundred years?
In MLB, since 1920 (the start of the live ball era) there's been 51 seasons (out of 95 total) that didn't produce a hitter with 50 doubles. [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/2B_top_ten.shtml]Check this out and tell me if your SimD leagues are anywhere close to it![/url]
[Edited on 11-16-2014 by WillyD]
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