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hobos
Bucky Jacobsen
July 28, 2004 at 08:56PM View BBCode
Bucky is currently averaging a HR every 7 ABs. In a 600 AB season, he would hit 85.7142... HRs:o:D:rolleyes:
ABDREW
July 28, 2004 at 09:25PM View BBCode
I give 1 more week until the holes in his swing are found and he goes into a slump. There has got to be a reason the guy is 27 y/o and this is his 1st trip to the bigs
ME
look at his 1994 year
.264 BA .286 OBP .660 SLG
6 HR in 53 AB
July 28, 2004 at 09:33PM View BBCode
[url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pirklgr01.shtml]Greg Pirkl[/url]look at his 1994 year
.264 BA .286 OBP .660 SLG
6 HR in 53 AB
ABDREW
EVERYONES swing has hole, with the possible exception of Barry "HGH" Bonds
July 28, 2004 at 09:45PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Bengals
But what if the bat isn't holy? That would be awesome!
EVERYONES swing has hole, with the possible exception of Barry "HGH" Bonds
drew
He is my godmother/neighbor's nephew, so I kind of know him. Not that well though.
July 28, 2004 at 09:47PM View BBCode
Well check out [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcdonke01.shtml]Keith McDonalds[/url] 2000 season (or big league career for that matter :lol: )He is my godmother/neighbor's nephew, so I kind of know him. Not that well though.
hobos
July 28, 2004 at 09:54PM View BBCode
:o He would have reached 257.1428... HRs that year in 600 ABs. He would have beat Aaron's record in only 3 years :o
whiskybear
Legend has it that one home run he hit in Tacoma traveled beyond the stadium and landed in the skate park. For those of you who don't know Cheney Stadium, that's a distance of close to 600 feet--and this was reported in the Tacoma News Tribune, not by a friend of a friend whose sister was at the game.
He has trouble with offspeed stuff, but when he makes contact he just crushes the damn baseball. Bucky Ball--live it!
July 28, 2004 at 10:01PM View BBCode
Bucky's a stud. I watched him play a half-dozen games in Tacoma, and he hit a total of four home runs in the last two games I attended. Also had a 14-game hitting streak and won the Triple-A Home Run Derby.Legend has it that one home run he hit in Tacoma traveled beyond the stadium and landed in the skate park. For those of you who don't know Cheney Stadium, that's a distance of close to 600 feet--and this was reported in the Tacoma News Tribune, not by a friend of a friend whose sister was at the game.
He has trouble with offspeed stuff, but when he makes contact he just crushes the damn baseball. Bucky Ball--live it!
Duff77
Jeff Tackett was all the rage in Baltimore for a month in 1992...
[url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/tackeje01.shtml[/url]
Chito Martinez crushed for one half of a season the year before...
[url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/martich01.shtml[/url]
Even I had one. In 1950, backup catcher Jeff Smith bashed 7 HRs and 21 RBI in 89 ABs, a pace of 47 HRs and 141 RBI for a full season...
[url]http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?playername=nobody&mode=stats&id=348878[/url]
July 28, 2004 at 10:32PM View BBCode
A lot of guys come and go like that. Fantastic fastball hitters who can't hit a breaking ball to save their lives. Veteran pitchers tend not to take rookies seriously, so they groove fastballs and get beat. After five or six home runs the fun is usually over.Jeff Tackett was all the rage in Baltimore for a month in 1992...
[url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/tackeje01.shtml[/url]
Chito Martinez crushed for one half of a season the year before...
[url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/martich01.shtml[/url]
Even I had one. In 1950, backup catcher Jeff Smith bashed 7 HRs and 21 RBI in 89 ABs, a pace of 47 HRs and 141 RBI for a full season...
[url]http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?playername=nobody&mode=stats&id=348878[/url]
skierdude44
July 28, 2004 at 10:37PM View BBCode
When Shane Spencer came up in September for the Yankees for the first time he clocked 10 homers in 67 at bats. He reached 10 homers in a season again in 2001 but this time in 283 at bats. He is a good fastball hitter but cant do much with the offspeed stuff. Combine that with that fact that he had a major leg injury which now makes him a utility player.
hobos
July 28, 2004 at 11:40PM View BBCode
Spencer just got arrested for a DUI.... He obviously can't hit off speed stuff because he is drunk:D
whiskybear
July 28, 2004 at 11:49PM View BBCode
In Bucky's defense, I think he's got a decent chance to be a little more than a one-month wonder. He has trouble with the offspeed stuff--it's not that he can't hit it. I've watched him wait on a major league changeup and punch it to the opposite field for a base hit. He won't feast on the offspeed stuff, but he can hit it.
whiskybear
July 28, 2004 at 11:50PM View BBCode
Of course, I don't think he's the second-coming of Edgar Martinez, either. But he could be a decent player as a DH. His defense is :lol:
ABDREW
[Edited on 7-29-2004 by ABDREW]
July 29, 2004 at 12:27AM View BBCode
I agree that Bucky will most likely end up being a decent major leaguer. At best not unlike Jay Buhner (a former Mariner actually). But I'm not ready to call him McGwire Jr. or start stamping his plaque for Cooperstown.[Edited on 7-29-2004 by ABDREW]
jojo888
July 29, 2004 at 12:58AM View BBCode
I have been gone for a week, so I have not been watching Sports Center. What team does this guy play for?
hobos
July 29, 2004 at 01:18AM View BBCode
Mariners, he is the heir to Martinez's throne, or so Seattle would like to think
whiskybear
Not to pick on you, but that's about on-par with calling Tim Salmon an Angel. To this M's fan, behind Griffey of course, Buhner was the other face of the franchise in the 90s. Randy Johnson was a surly pitcher, and Edgar was too quiet to really develop a persona. "Bad to the Bone," Buhner buzz night, and that famous chromedome electrified the Kingdome crowd when every year was a lean one.
Sorry for the nostalgia--I don't think Bucky will put up Bone numbers, but I think he will hit 100-150 career home runs--probably never more than 30 in a season.
July 29, 2004 at 02:01AM View BBCode
Originally posted by ABDREW
At best not unlike Jay Buhner (a former Mariner actually).
[Edited on 7-29-2004 by ABDREW]
Not to pick on you, but that's about on-par with calling Tim Salmon an Angel. To this M's fan, behind Griffey of course, Buhner was the other face of the franchise in the 90s. Randy Johnson was a surly pitcher, and Edgar was too quiet to really develop a persona. "Bad to the Bone," Buhner buzz night, and that famous chromedome electrified the Kingdome crowd when every year was a lean one.
Sorry for the nostalgia--I don't think Bucky will put up Bone numbers, but I think he will hit 100-150 career home runs--probably never more than 30 in a season.
ME
July 29, 2004 at 04:14PM View BBCode
Bucky probably won't amount to anything. Players who show a lot of power but little else in the minors generally don't do anything in the majors - they have a short stint where they play well then they get figured out and forever suck.
whiskybear
Bucky's 2004 AAA stats: .318 average, 22 doubles, 26 home runs.
Do your homework.
July 29, 2004 at 04:38PM View BBCode
Originally posted by ME
Bucky probably won't amount to anything. Players who show a lot of power but little else in the minors generally don't do anything in the majors - they have a short stint where they play well then they get figured out and forever suck.
Bucky's 2004 AAA stats: .318 average, 22 doubles, 26 home runs.
Do your homework.
Benne
July 29, 2004 at 05:57PM View BBCode
I also will defend Bucky with you, whiskeybear. He's got great power and will fill the shoes of Edgar competently. He is also a huge fan favorite and I heard he even has his own fan club down in Phoenix or somewhere.
ME2
July 30, 2004 at 02:01AM View BBCode
most minor leaguers, even the good ones, dont become good major leaguers, so i stand by my statement.
whiskybear
July 30, 2004 at 06:00AM View formatted
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That's a pretty dumbass argument, but I suppose it's your prerogative. :rolleyes:
Duff77
Case in point--Jeff Manto. Manto destroyed AAA, but was a .230 hitter in the bigs with some power. Some guys come up from the minors and hit the same, others come up and lose a hundred points in batting average. The scouts, I think, can usually figure that out. But I would say...it's not IMPOSSIBLE Bucky might be solid, but it's damned unlikely.
July 30, 2004 at 06:55AM View BBCode
It's a pretty fair argument. The vast majority of minor league players don't make it as regulars in the majors. But using the argument to say Jacobsen won't make it sort of misses the point. Jacobsen is as unlikely to make it as anybody else who comes up, which means he's as likely to make it as anyone else who comes up. The better argument is that it is EXTREMELY rare for a 29 year old to come up as a rookie and stick as a good player. I really can't think of one offhand. The scouts are pretty good--if a guy has major holes in his swing that would prevent him from succeeding long term at the major league level, they tend to know.Case in point--Jeff Manto. Manto destroyed AAA, but was a .230 hitter in the bigs with some power. Some guys come up from the minors and hit the same, others come up and lose a hundred points in batting average. The scouts, I think, can usually figure that out. But I would say...it's not IMPOSSIBLE Bucky might be solid, but it's damned unlikely.
whiskybear
If you want to argue that Bucky is too old to likely make a lasting impression, that his AAA numbers aren't solid (but you'd have difficulty doing that), that he has trouble with offspeed stuff, that's fine. But don't say something that would apply to any and every player that is making the transition to the majors. Somehow, a few of those guys end up working out.
[Edited on 7-30-2004 by whiskybear]
July 30, 2004 at 07:53AM View BBCode
But arguing that a specific minor leaguer won't succeed because most minor leaguers don't succeed is about like saying it's going to rain today because it did yesterday. By that rationale, only the guys like John Olerud who never play in the minors should be expected to do great things.If you want to argue that Bucky is too old to likely make a lasting impression, that his AAA numbers aren't solid (but you'd have difficulty doing that), that he has trouble with offspeed stuff, that's fine. But don't say something that would apply to any and every player that is making the transition to the majors. Somehow, a few of those guys end up working out.
[Edited on 7-30-2004 by whiskybear]
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