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tm4559
May 06, 2010 at 08:30PM View BBCode
nothing that has bradshaw in it has ever made sense. he also has never said anything that made sense. the steelers were the awesome though, actuals.
khazim
May 06, 2010 at 08:33PM View BBCode
I debated Bradshaw being that he was a mediocre QB with a stellar group of receivers, but that much jewelry is hard to argue with.
barterer2002
May 06, 2010 at 08:35PM View BBCode
Hey I love the Steelers and grew up watching the Bradshaw years but I'd be hard pressed to put him in the top 20. Above a 3 time MVP yes, in the top 20 QBs of all time-no.
BKCUBS13
May 06, 2010 at 08:41PM View BBCode
I must admit I was born way after his playing years. So I only the know the man, the legend, the myth(also the rings). But if you do look at his numbers, Mr Steel Arm is not so impressive. I honestly would make a case that Kurt Warner is a top 20 QB but prob not a top 10. Which impressive for a former bag boy.
dirtdevil
Montana
Unitas
Graham
Manning
Staubach
Elway
Marino
Aikman
Brady
Young
Kapp
Kubiak
May 06, 2010 at 08:41PM View BBCode
and since everyone else seems to be doing it, here's mine (very quickly so it's possible that i'm missing someone i suppose)Montana
Unitas
Graham
Manning
Staubach
Elway
Marino
Aikman
Brady
Young
Kapp
Kubiak
BKCUBS13
May 06, 2010 at 08:52PM View BBCode
If you make the case that Bradshaw is considered one of the greatest b.c of the hardware you have to make the opposite case for marino. Marino probably had the least amount of weapons by far of all the all great time QB's. I would have no problem putting him number 1 over montana, unitas, or whoever.
tm4559
hugs. a skin centric list.
baugh
jurgenson
norm snead (they traded him for jurgenson)
theismann
kilmer
rippien
gus ferrotte
ryan leaf
jason collins (not campbell, collins)
kapp
kubiak
May 06, 2010 at 09:05PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
and since everyone else seems to be doing it, here's mine (very quickly so it's possible that i'm missing someone i suppose)
Montana
Unitas
Graham
Manning
Staubach
Elway
Marino
Aikman
Brady
Young
Kapp
Kubiak
hugs. a skin centric list.
baugh
jurgenson
norm snead (they traded him for jurgenson)
theismann
kilmer
rippien
gus ferrotte
ryan leaf
jason collins (not campbell, collins)
kapp
kubiak
Tyles
Krieg
Zorn
Moon
Hasselbeck
Dilfer
Kitna
Wallace
Mirer
CHARLIE FUCKING WHITEHURST
Friesz
Huard
Gelbaugh
May 06, 2010 at 10:06PM View BBCode
Aikman. LOLZ.Krieg
Zorn
Moon
Hasselbeck
Dilfer
Kitna
Wallace
Mirer
CHARLIE FUCKING WHITEHURST
Friesz
Huard
Gelbaugh
BKCUBS13
Sid Luckman
Bill Wade
Jim Mcmahon
Mike Tomczak
Doug Flutie
Jim Harbaugh
Erik Kramer
Steve Walsh
Rick Mirer
Jim Miller
Shane Mathews
Cade Mcnown
Henry Burris
kordell Stewart
Rex Grossman
Kyle Orton
Jay Cutler-the savior chuckle
Only Sid and the punky QB deserve any recognition
[Edited on 5-7-2010 by BKCUBS13]
May 07, 2010 at 12:52AM View BBCode
This trumps allSid Luckman
Bill Wade
Jim Mcmahon
Mike Tomczak
Doug Flutie
Jim Harbaugh
Erik Kramer
Steve Walsh
Rick Mirer
Jim Miller
Shane Mathews
Cade Mcnown
Henry Burris
kordell Stewart
Rex Grossman
Kyle Orton
Jay Cutler-the savior chuckle
Only Sid and the punky QB deserve any recognition
[Edited on 5-7-2010 by BKCUBS13]
Jughead
Maybe it is time to do a quarterback bracket like those other brackets we did a year or two ago.
May 07, 2010 at 01:59AM View BBCode
My greatest sexual conquest? Jeff Garcia's second cousin. (He is from here.) He will always be one of my favorite players. He also usually wears #5, one of my favorite numbers.Maybe it is time to do a quarterback bracket like those other brackets we did a year or two ago.
Tyles
You censored Donovan McNabb?
May 07, 2010 at 02:24AM View BBCode
Originally posted by Jughead
My greatest sexual conquest? Jeff Garcia's second cousin. (He is from here.) He will always be one of my favorite players. He also usually wears #5, one of my favorite numbers.
You censored Donovan McNabb?
Tyles
May 07, 2010 at 02:27AM View BBCode
Incidentally, Bill Buckner's daughter touched me once. (Not in my swimsuit area.)
dirtdevil
[Edited on 5-7-2010 by dirtdevil]
May 07, 2010 at 01:18PM View BBCode
buckners tend not to much good at touching things between legs anyway.[Edited on 5-7-2010 by dirtdevil]
Jughead
May 07, 2010 at 02:09PM View BBCode
Bill Buckner's younger fraternal twin sisters graduated in the same class as my mom. His baseball cards say he was born in Vallejo because there is no Kaiser hospital in Napa. Mom says she didn't know them, which means either she didn't know them, or they made fun of her for being half Japanese, as was the style at the time.
albiez
(thanks to Joel for making this thread the best thread)
((or should I be posting this in the hockey thread?))
May 09, 2010 at 05:46AM View BBCode
My friend came in Mike Milbury's daughter's hair once.(thanks to Joel for making this thread the best thread)
((or should I be posting this in the hockey thread?))
dirtdevil
May 09, 2010 at 01:03PM View BBCode
why not both? good stories like that should be shared with the world, not hidden away in a dark corner, even one 14 pages long.
thatrogue
May 22, 2010 at 10:51AM View BBCode
[url=http://www.firejoshmcdanielsnow.com/2010/05/nate-jackson-not-complementary-to-josh.html]Just because...[/url]
shep1582
fran tarkenton (he lost 3 times as many SBs as Kapp)
brian griese (his daddy won 2 SBs)
roman gabriel (he won as many SBs as Marino)
john brodie (ditto, and he's a good golfer)
trent dilfer (won MORE SBs than Marino)
daryle lamonica (anyone nicknamed the Mad Bomber has to be top 10)
george blanda (any list with Lamonica has to have Blanda on it)
drew bledsoe (won more SBs than Marino, and was in twice as many)
marlon briscoe (for pure ridiculousness, and because he paved the way for Doug Williams)
May 25, 2010 at 09:38PM View BBCode
craig morton (he took two different franchises to their first SBs)fran tarkenton (he lost 3 times as many SBs as Kapp)
brian griese (his daddy won 2 SBs)
roman gabriel (he won as many SBs as Marino)
john brodie (ditto, and he's a good golfer)
trent dilfer (won MORE SBs than Marino)
daryle lamonica (anyone nicknamed the Mad Bomber has to be top 10)
george blanda (any list with Lamonica has to have Blanda on it)
drew bledsoe (won more SBs than Marino, and was in twice as many)
marlon briscoe (for pure ridiculousness, and because he paved the way for Doug Williams)
thatrogue
Way to go, coach McDaniels.
September 05, 2010 at 01:21PM View BBCode
Originally posted by thatrogueAnd now McDaniels has dealt the aforementioned Alphonso Smith for the Lions 2009 seventh round pick, Dan Gronkowski...who played in all of two games and spent most of last season on the practice squad. This is happening because Smith has not developed under the Defensive Coordinator musical chairs system, and has been outplayed by Broncos 2010 seventh round pick Syd'Quan Thompson.
Just to revisit the fact that Josh McDaniels traded what turned out to be the #14 pick in a good draft class for the #37 pick in what was considered a relatively weak draft class. For not being patient, he wound up with [url=http://www.nfl.com/players/alphonsosmith/profile?id=SMI037429]this level of production last season[/url].
Yes Josh, [url=http://broncotalk.net/2009/04/6787/broncos-news/denver-broncos-draft-2009-recap/]we're looking at you, and we don't like what we see...[/url]. The defense obviously needed playmakers, and [url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009]Orakpo was there for you[/url], yet you selected a running back at 12? I know we're supposed to wait a few years before evaluating any draft, but McDaniels made both tactical and strategic mistakes the first time...and I don't have much hope that he'll make better decisions this time around.
...
Way to go, coach McDaniels.
vurbil
Two guys that are generally looked at as winners rather than stats guys: Joe Montana and Tom Brady. Montana's career QB rating was 92.3; Brady's, 93.3.
Peyton Manning, another stats guy, but also did win a Superbowl, has a career QB rating of 95.2.
Marino has a career completion percentage under 60%. He also threw 252 interceptions.
He does have a lot of yards because he had a lot of attempts. For example, he had 3 seasons of over 600 attempts, something Peyton Manning has never done. The Dolphins had literally no running game.
People make the argument that Marino is the greatest QB because football is a team game, and he can't be blamed for his team's lack of success. They say you should look at individual stats. But this is based on the false premise that Marino's stats are uniquely impressive. In fact, they don't hold up when compared to the stats of other top QBs.
September 08, 2010 at 11:43PM View BBCode
It's interesting how many people have the perception that Dan Marino was one of the top QBs of all time. He never won a Superbowl, so his claim to fame is supposedly statistical. Yet he had a career QB rating of 86.4.Two guys that are generally looked at as winners rather than stats guys: Joe Montana and Tom Brady. Montana's career QB rating was 92.3; Brady's, 93.3.
Peyton Manning, another stats guy, but also did win a Superbowl, has a career QB rating of 95.2.
Marino has a career completion percentage under 60%. He also threw 252 interceptions.
He does have a lot of yards because he had a lot of attempts. For example, he had 3 seasons of over 600 attempts, something Peyton Manning has never done. The Dolphins had literally no running game.
People make the argument that Marino is the greatest QB because football is a team game, and he can't be blamed for his team's lack of success. They say you should look at individual stats. But this is based on the false premise that Marino's stats are uniquely impressive. In fact, they don't hold up when compared to the stats of other top QBs.
vurbil
Yeah, like how your player can win the MVP but not make the All Star game in SimD?
September 08, 2010 at 11:50PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
[url=http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Article:Top_50_Quarterbacks_of_All-Time]Here are[/url] [url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/325170-nfl-the-top-25-quarterbacks-of-all-time#page/1]just a few[/url] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3209882]people who obviously[/url] [url=http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-quarterbacks-of-all-time/mathayus]hate the Cowboys.[/url]
does anyone else find it odd that they name staubach the qb of the 70's but rank bradshaw in the top 10? because it seems sort of strange to rank one above the other on one list and then reverse it on another.
Yeah, like how your player can win the MVP but not make the All Star game in SimD?
khazim
Don't look now, but that could potentially happen in MLB this year if Carlos Gonzalez win the MVP.
September 09, 2010 at 02:22PM View BBCode
Yeah, like how your player can win the MVP but not make the All Star game in SimD?
Don't look now, but that could potentially happen in MLB this year if Carlos Gonzalez win the MVP.