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sfgiants4
January 11, 2005 at 08:39PM View formatted
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have you looked at his hair, only a wise perosn would have hair like that:lol:
Benne
It was certainly one of the strongest rookie classes recently and I'll tell you why.
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Kevin Jones
Julius Jones
Stephen Jackson
Roy Williams
Larry Fitzgerald
Michael Clayton
Reggie Williams
Lee Evans
Sean Taylor
Jonathan Vilma
Chris Gamble
so on and so forth....
January 11, 2005 at 09:17PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Originally posted by kingjames0405
theres no one great this year last year was the best draft ever though
Best draft ever? Based on what exactly?
It was certainly one of the strongest rookie classes recently and I'll tell you why.
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Kevin Jones
Julius Jones
Stephen Jackson
Roy Williams
Larry Fitzgerald
Michael Clayton
Reggie Williams
Lee Evans
Sean Taylor
Jonathan Vilma
Chris Gamble
so on and so forth....
sfgiants4
January 11, 2005 at 09:19PM View BBCode
I'd say there are 5 or more future hall of famers on that list.
whiskybear
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
One year of experience, and we've already punched their tickets to Canton, eh?
January 11, 2005 at 09:27PM View BBCode
Originally posted by sfgiants4
I'd say there are 5 or more future hall of famers on that list.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
One year of experience, and we've already punched their tickets to Canton, eh?
alphabetagaga
John Elway (!!!)
Eric Dickerson (!!!!)
Jim Kelly (!!!)
Dan Marino (28th overall? !!!!!!!)
And that was just the first round! As I remember, I think a couple of incredible players were taken in the later rounds (Bears linebackers? I need to find some reference to help me out here)
As for this year, I consider it this year to be a very RB heavy draft. Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, Benson, are some of the great talents in college ball. It's possible some of these guys fall to the late 1st round.
A brainstorm, could the Seahawks lets Shaun Alexander go in favor of trying to pick up one of the backs if they fall to the low first round? Hmm...
January 11, 2005 at 09:56PM View BBCode
Are we forgetting the trult GREAT draft of all time? The 1983 NFL Draft, with such players as:John Elway (!!!)
Eric Dickerson (!!!!)
Jim Kelly (!!!)
Dan Marino (28th overall? !!!!!!!)
And that was just the first round! As I remember, I think a couple of incredible players were taken in the later rounds (Bears linebackers? I need to find some reference to help me out here)
As for this year, I consider it this year to be a very RB heavy draft. Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, Benson, are some of the great talents in college ball. It's possible some of these guys fall to the late 1st round.
A brainstorm, could the Seahawks lets Shaun Alexander go in favor of trying to pick up one of the backs if they fall to the low first round? Hmm...
Benne
January 11, 2005 at 09:59PM View BBCode
The Seahawks need to focus on defense, defense, defense. Their D-line was a joke this year and always gave the crappiest QBs enough time to read War and Peace. The linebackers are competent but old and the secondary always gives up that one big play. Can I say defense again?
sfgiants4
January 11, 2005 at 09:59PM View BBCode
ya the 1983 is the best draft, last years draft will be lucky to be as good someday.
whiskybear
January 11, 2005 at 10:02PM View BBCode
The 1983 Draft is widely considered the best QB draft of all time. Todd Blackledge, Tony Eason and Ken O'Brien were also highly touted QBs. Darrell Green and Bruce Matthews were a couple future HOFers taken in the first round.
kingjames0405
January 11, 2005 at 10:02PM View BBCode
the browns need to focus on EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY SUCK. adn phil savage better do something that will finally give browns fans something to cheer about:mad:
Benne
January 11, 2005 at 10:03PM View BBCode
What the Browns need first is a coach and some front-office guys that actually want to try to build this team. It will be a long process, be patient kingjames.
skierdude44
There have been some impressive rookies but they are just that... rookies. Vilma looks like he will be crazy good but it is too soon to tell. The same goes for just about everyone on that list. And in a mostly unrelated note, I know Chris Gamble's cousin (you can take the poster out of Off topic but you can't take the off topic out of the poster).
January 11, 2005 at 10:10PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Benne
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Originally posted by kingjames0405
theres no one great this year last year was the best draft ever though
Best draft ever? Based on what exactly?
It was certainly one of the strongest rookie classes recently and I'll tell you why.
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Kevin Jones
Julius Jones
Stephen Jackson
Roy Williams
Larry Fitzgerald
Michael Clayton
Reggie Williams
Lee Evans
Sean Taylor
Jonathan Vilma
Chris Gamble
so on and so forth....
There have been some impressive rookies but they are just that... rookies. Vilma looks like he will be crazy good but it is too soon to tell. The same goes for just about everyone on that list. And in a mostly unrelated note, I know Chris Gamble's cousin (you can take the poster out of Off topic but you can't take the off topic out of the poster).
alphabetagaga
I guess, first off, draft a good RB from the RB-rich draft. Then, if he's still around, Alex Smith.
Or, possibly Rolle in the first round, and then a QB in the second. Campell and Randell are both coming out, both really athletic QBs. A nice project in the second round to be developed while they have Jeff Garcia under contract.
January 11, 2005 at 10:15PM View BBCode
Jesus, while I was sitting here trying to think of feasible draft plans for the Browns, I realized I couldn't! The Browns pretty much suck in every conceivable area I can think of.I guess, first off, draft a good RB from the RB-rich draft. Then, if he's still around, Alex Smith.
Or, possibly Rolle in the first round, and then a QB in the second. Campell and Randell are both coming out, both really athletic QBs. A nice project in the second round to be developed while they have Jeff Garcia under contract.
INDIANSFORLIFE
January 11, 2005 at 10:18PM View BBCode
The d-line was weak for the 'Hawks, but Wistrom was hurt, and so was Tubbs, but I think he just sucks. Their main problem on D is lack of depth/age/brittleness at LB and their defensive co-ordinator (firerayrhodes.com). Id prefer they tag and trade Alexander, get Brown/Benson/Williams and then get Ahmad Brooks or Derrick Johnson at LB.
alphabetagaga
And Johnson is a sure first rounder. No way the Seahawks get him in the second round.
January 11, 2005 at 10:25PM View BBCode
Wouldn't "Crybaby" Alexander bitch and moan about being on the Seahawks while they have his heir-apparent waiting right behind him? Too much friction to deal with, IMO, for the Seahawks. Better to let Alexander walk, and draft Brown/Caddy/Benson.And Johnson is a sure first rounder. No way the Seahawks get him in the second round.
kingjames0405
January 11, 2005 at 10:27PM View BBCode
i think phil savage might be able to turn this thing around and take cleveland into the playoffs
skierdude44
I think Whisky meant trade Alexander for a pick so that they have 2 first rounders, one for a runningback and one for Derrick Johnson or Ahmad Brooks.
[Edited on 1-11-2005 by skierdude44]
January 11, 2005 at 10:32PM View BBCode
Originally posted by alphabetagaga
Wouldn't "Crybaby" Alexander <b>[Censored]</b> and moan about being on the Seahawks while they have his heir-apparent waiting right behind him? Too much friction to deal with, IMO, for the Seahawks. Better to let Alexander walk, and draft Brown/Caddy/Benson.
And Johnson is a sure first rounder. No way the Seahawks get him in the second round.
I think Whisky meant trade Alexander for a pick so that they have 2 first rounders, one for a runningback and one for Derrick Johnson or Ahmad Brooks.
[Edited on 1-11-2005 by skierdude44]
prvev
January 11, 2005 at 11:41PM View BBCode
Johnson is an amazing player, his stock will probably go up in the combine because of his speed.
Benne
January 12, 2005 at 09:58PM View BBCode
'Hawks will probably stick the franchise tag on Walter Jones again, but if I was GM, I would re-sign Alexander, give him what he wants. Then I would probably let Hasselbeck walk. Call me crazy, but I watched Seneca Wallace in preseason; he's got some good stuff, lots of potential, and he's more mobile than Hasselbeck. I think he's worth grooming as a starter. As for the draft, I would look for a sure-handed receiver and another DT aside Tubbs to stop the run.
whiskybear
I think we need to keep Alexander, too, but if you want Wallace in there at QB, we need to start running the option. I have little faith in his arm. He'd still be an upgrade over Hasselbeck.
January 12, 2005 at 10:01PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Benne
'Hawks will probably stick the franchise tag on Walter Jones again, but if I was GM, I would re-sign Alexander, give him what he wants. Then I would probably let Hasselbeck walk. Call me crazy, but I watched Seneca Wallace in preseason; he's got some good stuff, lots of potential, and he's more mobile than Hasselbeck. I think he's worth grooming as a starter. As for the draft, I would look for a sure-handed receiver and another DT aside Tubbs to stop the run.
I think we need to keep Alexander, too, but if you want Wallace in there at QB, we need to start running the option. I have little faith in his arm. He'd still be an upgrade over Hasselbeck.
INDIANSFORLIFE
January 12, 2005 at 10:06PM View BBCode
Hasselbeck is a god in my house. Re-sign him immediately.
Benne
January 12, 2005 at 10:07PM View BBCode
True, he'll be a project and Seattle may need to keep Dilfer around for insurance. But in the long run, Wallace will be a better option.
INDIANSFORLIFE
Yeah I meant to tag and trade Alexander so he wouldn't be here to cry, and we'd have 2 1st rounders, one for a RB and one for a LB.
January 12, 2005 at 10:07PM View BBCode
Originally posted by alphabetagaga
Wouldn't "Crybaby" Alexander <b>[Censored]</b> and moan about being on the Seahawks while they have his heir-apparent waiting right behind him? Too much friction to deal with, IMO, for the Seahawks. Better to let Alexander walk, and draft Brown/Caddy/Benson.
And Johnson is a sure first rounder. No way the Seahawks get him in the second round.
Yeah I meant to tag and trade Alexander so he wouldn't be here to cry, and we'd have 2 1st rounders, one for a RB and one for a LB.
whiskybear
You watched him play this year, right?
January 12, 2005 at 10:08PM View BBCode
Originally posted by INDIANSFORLIFE
Hasselbeck is a god in my house. Re-sign him immediately.
You watched him play this year, right?
INDIANSFORLIFE
From what my sources have been telling me, Alexander is almost guarenteed to be tagged at this point. The tag for a RB would be about 6 mil compared to around 10 mil for Walter Jones again. This is subject to change though. I do not want SA on my team next year.
January 12, 2005 at 10:10PM View BBCode
I like Wallace. He was great in training camp and in pre-season, if that means anything. I think he could be a good backup in time, and occasional injury fill in if needed, but not a starter.From what my sources have been telling me, Alexander is almost guarenteed to be tagged at this point. The tag for a RB would be about 6 mil compared to around 10 mil for Walter Jones again. This is subject to change though. I do not want SA on my team next year.