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tworoosters
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January 14, 2010 at 07:16PM View formatted
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How in the world did this innocent little "Mock the RedSox front office" thread turn into a bit[i][/i]chfest about the Mets ?[Edited on 1-14-2010 by tworoosters]
thatrogue
Of course, a player such as Pujols is more than rare, so what the Cards did was smart. But the contract was more of an extension to lock him up long term than it was a simple buyout of his arb years.
January 14, 2010 at 07:50PM View BBCode
Most arb year buyouts cover a year of free agency...maybe two, so that the two sides don't have to go through that painful process every season. It is rare that a contract covers two arb seasons and a five year extension.Of course, a player such as Pujols is more than rare, so what the Cards did was smart. But the contract was more of an extension to lock him up long term than it was a simple buyout of his arb years.
FuriousGiorge
Do you have, you know, evidence of this?
January 14, 2010 at 07:57PM View BBCode
Originally posted by thatrogue
Most arb year buyouts cover a year of free agency...maybe two, so that the two sides don't have to go through that painful process every season. It is rare that a contract covers two arb seasons and a five year extension.
Do you have, you know, evidence of this?
thatrogue
January 14, 2010 at 08:10PM View BBCode
My reference was anecdotal, as I find the "business" of baseball extremely interesting and tend to follow it. In searching, [url=http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3222:youth-is-king-lets-wrap-up-them-up-through-arbitration&catid=26:editorials&Itemid=39]here[/url] is an article discussing recent arb buyouts early in players careers, that wind up covering a couple of seasons of free agency. Many teams ask players to give up a year or two of hitting the open market, in exchange for a significant raise up front, salary certaintly, and avoiding the negative approach teams have to take when fighting arbitration cases.
thatrogue
January 27, 2010 at 09:30PM View BBCode
By the way Bryan, I concede the point. The Mets are certainly not contenders on paper, unless the current players significantly outperform expectations as a whole...or they make an unexpected trade (or two) for significant talent.
tworoosters
Can't really see that 7 year $89 million pipe dream proposed on page one of this thread happening. At this rate even with a 25% hometown discount Mauer is going to cost in the neighborhood of $20 million per year.
More Mauer
January 28, 2010 at 10:45PM View BBCode
The Twins are apparently making no head way in extending "Hometown Joe" and current free market estimates are in the eight year $200 million range.Can't really see that 7 year $89 million pipe dream proposed on page one of this thread happening. At this rate even with a 25% hometown discount Mauer is going to cost in the neighborhood of $20 million per year.
Jughead
8 years, $184 million. (It's fun to bump an old thread for the right reasons.)
March 21, 2010 at 11:01PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tworoosters
Originally posted by cubfan531
Besides, Mauer's got his dream job, he will give a huge hometown discount to play for Minnesota. I'm thinking they'll do something ridiculous like 7 years, 89 million or so to keep him.
If they get Mauer for 7 years for $89 million it would be the singular best bargain in recent MLB history.
I cannot imagine Mauer signing anything worth less than $20 million per season on the open market so even a 25% "hometown discount" would put 7 years at $105.
8 years, $184 million. (It's fun to bump an old thread for the right reasons.)
thatrogue
March 21, 2010 at 11:27PM View BBCode
Originally posted by JugheadUhm...
I think it is conceivable. I think it is more likely he is offered eight years for $240 million, and the Twins get him for 7 years for $140 million.
tworoosters
$23 million per year for eight years is a fuckton of money for a catcher given the physical demands of the position but he's certainly the best one around .
I hope it works out well for all concerned .
March 21, 2010 at 11:28PM View BBCode
Yeah Joe sure gave Minnesota a huge hometown discount to stay with his dream job didn't he .$23 million per year for eight years is a fuckton of money for a catcher given the physical demands of the position but he's certainly the best one around .
I hope it works out well for all concerned .
shep1582
Is it realistic that Minysoda can afford that?
March 22, 2010 at 02:42AM View BBCode
I bet they trade him now that they have that salary locked in (I didn't read if there's a no trade clause).Is it realistic that Minysoda can afford that?
Tyles
March 22, 2010 at 02:48AM View BBCode
7 years, $140 million isn't terribly far off the mark. 7 years, $89 million is typical off-brand, MFCS cubfan.
Aaronfiasc0
The Pohlad's are the second richest owners in all of sports. The shiny new stadium with three different kinds of hot dogs and walleye on a stick won't hurt either........
in summation: I hope so
March 22, 2010 at 04:36AM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
I bet they trade him now that they have that salary locked in (I didn't read if there's a no trade clause).
Is it realistic that Minysoda can afford that?
The Pohlad's are the second richest owners in all of sports. The shiny new stadium with three different kinds of hot dogs and walleye on a stick won't hurt either........
in summation: I hope so
Jon
There is a no-trade clause, and Mauer will have 10/5 rights by the time the contract is done. He's a Twin for life.
March 22, 2010 at 05:44AM View BBCode
Originally posted by shep1582
I bet they trade him now that they have that salary locked in (I didn't read if there's a no trade clause).
Is it realistic that Minysoda can afford that?
There is a no-trade clause, and Mauer will have 10/5 rights by the time the contract is done. He's a Twin for life.