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max_fischer
That voter was our local guy, one of the sportswriters for the Raleigh News & Observer.
That's an entirely legitimate vote, I think--I am amazed that there aren't more voters who picked Michigan (pack mentality can be overpowering).
But here's the grain of salt--this is the same reporter who picked LOUISVILLE as his preseason #1 last year, which didn't exactly pan out.
One lousy vote for Michigan
November 13, 2006 at 06:57PM View BBCode
If you've seen the college football AP poll this week, you may have noticed that one voter picked Michigan #1 (every other voter chose OSU).That voter was our local guy, one of the sportswriters for the Raleigh News & Observer.
That's an entirely legitimate vote, I think--I am amazed that there aren't more voters who picked Michigan (pack mentality can be overpowering).
But here's the grain of salt--this is the same reporter who picked LOUISVILLE as his preseason #1 last year, which didn't exactly pan out.
drunkengoat
Plus I like their colors better. Pretty colors is why anyone should ever root for a team.
November 13, 2006 at 07:04PM View BBCode
All the more reason I'm rooting for the Wolverines this weekend.Plus I like their colors better. Pretty colors is why anyone should ever root for a team.
Bones2484
Only because I think OSU has a better shot at remaining top-2 if they lose the game ;)
November 13, 2006 at 08:50PM View BBCode
Go OSU!Only because I think OSU has a better shot at remaining top-2 if they lose the game ;)
scaffdog
November 13, 2006 at 09:29PM View BBCode
why is that? they have a weaker schedule than 3 (or 4?) of the 1 loss teams behind them...
Bones2484
Much easier to fall from first to second after a loss compared to second to second.
November 13, 2006 at 10:14PM View BBCode
Because of the fact that Michigan only has 1 first place vote. So obviously most (almost 100%) feel that Ohio St is a superior team.Much easier to fall from first to second after a loss compared to second to second.
lvnwrth
1. I like Bo Schembechler better than Woody Hayes.
2. Though not a true Wolverine fan, my dad used to go to Michigan games when he was working on a contract with Dow-Corning somewhere around Ann Arbor. I was ten, so I don't remember exactly where it was he went.
3. If Ohio State loses, it will tough for the idiots who vote to drop them all the way to #3 and move Southern Cal into one of the drivers' seats for a BCS championship game.
Strength of the rest of the schedule aside, we need to ask ourselves seriously: Does a team that lost to Oregon State deserve a shot at the national title?
[Edited on 11-13-2006 by lvnwrth]
November 13, 2006 at 10:16PM View BBCode
I'll be pulling for Michigan because:1. I like Bo Schembechler better than Woody Hayes.
2. Though not a true Wolverine fan, my dad used to go to Michigan games when he was working on a contract with Dow-Corning somewhere around Ann Arbor. I was ten, so I don't remember exactly where it was he went.
3. If Ohio State loses, it will tough for the idiots who vote to drop them all the way to #3 and move Southern Cal into one of the drivers' seats for a BCS championship game.
Strength of the rest of the schedule aside, we need to ask ourselves seriously: Does a team that lost to Oregon State deserve a shot at the national title?
[Edited on 11-13-2006 by lvnwrth]
FuriousGiorge
November 13, 2006 at 10:21PM View BBCode
I too will be pulling for Michigan, and that is almost 100% due to my seething hatred for this "man":
barterer2002
Are you sure that's not Michigan State there?
November 13, 2006 at 10:32PM View BBCode
Originally posted by lvnwrth
2. Though not a true Wolverine fan, my dad used to go to Michigan games when he was working on a contract with Dow-Corning in Lansing.
Are you sure that's not Michigan State there?
whiskybear
November 13, 2006 at 10:44PM View BBCode
Apparently lvnwrth has reached the gap in his Medicare drug benefit, and has opted to let his prescriptions expire.
Bones2484
Please, tell me what other team (except for Rutgers if they go undefeated) deserves a shot at the OSU-Michigan winner? There have been no teams other than these 3 that have proven anything this year.
Thus I said in the other thread to move the game to Jan 4th ;)
November 13, 2006 at 10:57PM View BBCode
Originally posted by lvnwrth
Strength of the rest of the schedule aside, we need to ask ourselves seriously: Does a team that lost to Oregon State deserve a shot at the national title?
[Edited on 11-13-2006 by lvnwrth]
Please, tell me what other team (except for Rutgers if they go undefeated) deserves a shot at the OSU-Michigan winner? There have been no teams other than these 3 that have proven anything this year.
Thus I said in the other thread to move the game to Jan 4th ;)
barterer2002
November 13, 2006 at 11:13PM View BBCode
Florida, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Notre Dame are all as qualified as USC
lvnwrth
I went and checked some stuff I still have from back then. Dad was working in Midland, Michigan at the time. Out of curiousity I checked out Midland on Yahoo Maps, and it's even further away from Ann Arbor than Lansing is. I guess they had cars in 1968.
[Edited on 11-14-2006 by lvnwrth]
November 14, 2006 at 12:05AM View BBCode
I wrote Lansing; I meant Ann Arbor. And I know it was Michigan, because I still have pictures that he took at some of the games and those are definitely NOT bright green uniforms, or Spartan heads on the helmets.I went and checked some stuff I still have from back then. Dad was working in Midland, Michigan at the time. Out of curiousity I checked out Midland on Yahoo Maps, and it's even further away from Ann Arbor than Lansing is. I guess they had cars in 1968.
[Edited on 11-14-2006 by lvnwrth]
rkinslow19
Except Arkansas got dominated by USC at home, so they're out of the picture.
West Virginia isn't qualified at all. An undefeated team from the Big East has a legitimate case to play in the BCS Championship game, simply because the Big East remains a BCS conference. But don't compare their 1-loss teams to those of the power conferences.
Has anyone brought up the possibility of a Michigan ND rematch in the title game? I doubt Michigan beats OSU, but if ND beats SC, there's a possibility, depending on the computers and how Florida finishes out the year...
Personally, I'm opposed to any sort of rematch in ANY bcs game.
November 14, 2006 at 01:24AM View BBCode
Originally posted by barterer2002
Florida, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Notre Dame are all as qualified as USC
Except Arkansas got dominated by USC at home, so they're out of the picture.
West Virginia isn't qualified at all. An undefeated team from the Big East has a legitimate case to play in the BCS Championship game, simply because the Big East remains a BCS conference. But don't compare their 1-loss teams to those of the power conferences.
Has anyone brought up the possibility of a Michigan ND rematch in the title game? I doubt Michigan beats OSU, but if ND beats SC, there's a possibility, depending on the computers and how Florida finishes out the year...
Personally, I'm opposed to any sort of rematch in ANY bcs game.
mantlefan
If you're going to eliminate Arkansas because they had a horrible game against USC then don't you have to eliminate USC for playing so poorly against Oregon State
As for West Virginia, you eliminate them for playing in the Big East along with Rutgers and Louisville both of which are also top 10 schools giving the Big East three top 10 schools at the moment a figure matched only by the Big 10 (OSU, Mich, Wisc). Your Pac-10, by comparison, has one other team in the top 25 in most polls (Cal ranked 15-22 depending on the poll) and manages to squeeze Oregon into the BCS poll (although they don't appear in either the Coaches Poll or the AP poll)
November 14, 2006 at 01:45AM View BBCode
Originally posted by rkinslow19
Originally posted by barterer2002
Florida, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Notre Dame are all as qualified as USC
Except Arkansas got dominated by USC at home, so they're out of the picture.
West Virginia isn't qualified at all. An undefeated team from the Big East has a legitimate case to play in the BCS Championship game, simply because the Big East remains a BCS conference. But don't compare their 1-loss teams to those of the power conferences.
Has anyone brought up the possibility of a Michigan ND rematch in the title game? I doubt Michigan beats OSU, but if ND beats SC, there's a possibility, depending on the computers and how Florida finishes out the year...
Personally, I'm opposed to any sort of rematch in ANY bcs game.
If you're going to eliminate Arkansas because they had a horrible game against USC then don't you have to eliminate USC for playing so poorly against Oregon State
As for West Virginia, you eliminate them for playing in the Big East along with Rutgers and Louisville both of which are also top 10 schools giving the Big East three top 10 schools at the moment a figure matched only by the Big 10 (OSU, Mich, Wisc). Your Pac-10, by comparison, has one other team in the top 25 in most polls (Cal ranked 15-22 depending on the poll) and manages to squeeze Oregon into the BCS poll (although they don't appear in either the Coaches Poll or the AP poll)
rkinslow19
USC beat Arkansas, at Arkansas. Unless USC loses, Arkansas is eliminated.
Also, I totally agree that giving up 50 points at home is equivalent to losing by 2 points on the road.
You are right. The Big East is far superior to the Pac 10. Their 4th Place team, South Florida, should be in the top-10 too!!!!!!!
November 14, 2006 at 03:41AM View BBCode
Mr. Mickey Mantle,USC beat Arkansas, at Arkansas. Unless USC loses, Arkansas is eliminated.
Also, I totally agree that giving up 50 points at home is equivalent to losing by 2 points on the road.
You are right. The Big East is far superior to the Pac 10. Their 4th Place team, South Florida, should be in the top-10 too!!!!!!!
barterer2002
November 14, 2006 at 03:45AM View BBCode
To be fair Kinslow, the Pac 10 is not very good this year. USC is a top national team. Cal is top 20 and nobody else is very good.
rkinslow19
November 14, 2006 at 03:50AM View BBCode
Bart, the computers disagree with you. Sagarin has the Pac-10 rated #1.
barterer2002
November 14, 2006 at 04:35AM View BBCode
computer schmuter but if you're going to point to Sagarin don't you need to also comment on The Big East being the number 2 conference?
rkinslow19
November 14, 2006 at 04:42AM View BBCode
I was wondering if you'd look that up. Funny, eh?
scaffdog
And do you really want to bring up the computers? They have USC ranked 2 spots below the Scarlet Knights and barely above Notre Dame(who got stomped in thier only big game of the season -- at home)...
November 14, 2006 at 05:12AM View BBCode
Whats funny is that even though they control thier own destiny, USC will probably fall down this week or next and not have a chance to get beat down in the National Championship game.And do you really want to bring up the computers? They have USC ranked 2 spots below the Scarlet Knights and barely above Notre Dame(who got stomped in thier only big game of the season -- at home)...
rkinslow19
The fact that your think that USC will lose makes me happy, because you also predicted that the Braves would win their division (2/3 of the way into the season).
Don't knock the Scarlet Knights....who isn't rooting for them (even me!)?
November 14, 2006 at 07:57AM View BBCode
Bottom line is that USC controls their own destiny.The fact that your think that USC will lose makes me happy, because you also predicted that the Braves would win their division (2/3 of the way into the season).
Don't knock the Scarlet Knights....who isn't rooting for them (even me!)?
scaffdog
you might want to go back and check that again. midway through June i said that the Braves had a shot at the NL Wildcard, and at the end of June I officially gave up on the Division chase but thought they still had a shot at the wildcard.
And just like I never gave up on the hope of the Braves making the playoffs Im sure you wont give up the hope of USC winning the national championship. Both are classic examples of hoping against hope and ultimately both will be wrong. The difference is that 4 months from now I wont be bringing it up.
November 14, 2006 at 05:09PM View BBCode
Originally posted by rkinslow19
Bottom line is that USC controls their own destiny.
The fact that your think that USC will lose makes me happy, because you also predicted that the Braves would win their division (2/3 of the way into the season).
Don't knock the Scarlet Knights....who isn't rooting for them (even me!)?
you might want to go back and check that again. midway through June i said that the Braves had a shot at the NL Wildcard, and at the end of June I officially gave up on the Division chase but thought they still had a shot at the wildcard.
And just like I never gave up on the hope of the Braves making the playoffs Im sure you wont give up the hope of USC winning the national championship. Both are classic examples of hoping against hope and ultimately both will be wrong. The difference is that 4 months from now I wont be bringing it up.
Bones2484
Hoping against hope includes thinking that USC could win its final three games in which they will be favored in each one?
Not to mention having both Cal and Notre Dame at home?
November 14, 2006 at 09:42PM View BBCode
And just like I never gave up on the hope of the Braves making the playoffs Im sure you wont give up the hope of USC winning the national championship. Both are classic examples of hoping against hope and ultimately both will be wrong. The difference is that 4 months from now I wont be bringing it up.
Hoping against hope includes thinking that USC could win its final three games in which they will be favored in each one?
Not to mention having both Cal and Notre Dame at home?