aonemanarmy
1974 HOF Ballot
July 06, 2011 at 05:12PM View BBCode
One new name on the ballot, Todd Gonzalez
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BATTERS
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458611]Todd Gonzalez[/url] (SEA, KC, NYN)
1952 - Rookie of the Year
1954 - All-star
1955 - All-star starter
1956 - MVP, All-star starter
1957 - All-star, Gold Glove
1958 - All-star starter, Gold Glove, League leader in RBI
1959 - All-star starter, Gold Glove, league leader in Runs, HR, OPS, OBP, SLG, and AVG
1960 - All-star starter
1961 - All-star starter
1962 - MVP, All-star starter, Gold Glove, League leader in RBI, OPS, SLG, and AVG
1963 - All-star starter
1964 - All-star starter
1965 - All-star, Gold Glove
1965 - All-star
Career Stats: 3287 Hits (All-time leader), 1952 Runs (All-time leader), 515 HR (All-time leader), 1882 RBI (2nd All-time), 122 SB, .301 AVG (5th All-time), .882 OPS (All-time leader) 7 WS Rings
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7646132]Bruce Easley[/url] (STL, NYN)
1960 - Rookie of the Year, All-star
1961 - All-star starter, League leader in HR, Single Season Record in HR (47)
1962 - All-star starter, Gold Glove, league leader in 2b
1963 - All-star starter, league leader in HR
1964 - All-star starter
1965 - All-star starter
1966 - All-star
1967 - All-star starter, Gold Glove
Career Stats: 1790 Hits, 1032 Runs, 344 HR, 1014 RBI, 184 SB, .289 Avg, .863 OPS, .519 SLG (All-time leader) 0 WS Rings
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458317]Terry Woods[/url] (OAK)
1953 - All-star starter
1954 - All-star, Gold Glove
1956 - All-star starter
1957 - All-star
1958 - All-star starter
1959 - All-star, Gold Glove
1963 - Gold Glove
Career Stats: 2497 Hits, 1311 Runs, 342 HR, 1281 RBI, 255 SB, .283 Avg, .811 OPS, 0 WS Rings
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458759]Lefty Hechinger[/url] (ATL)
1955 - Gold Glove
1961 - MVP, All-star
1962 - All-star
1963 - All-star
1964 - All-star
1965 - All-star
Career Stats: 2489 Hits, 1311 Runs, 314 HR, 1375 RBI, 275 SB, .267 Avg, .761 OPS 2 WS Rings
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458904]John Bostick[/url] (KC)
1956 - Rookie of the Year
1958 - All-star Starter
1959 - MVP, All-star Starter
1960 - Gold Glove
1962 - All-star starter
1963 - All-star starter, League leader in RBI
1964 - All-star starter
1965 - All-star starter
1966 - All-star
1967 - All-star starter
Career Stats: 2106 Hits, 1193 Runs, 301 HR, 1221 RBI, 161 SB, .295 AVG, .850 OPS, 1 WS Ring
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7646184]Jack Schafer[/url] (NYN)
1966 - All-star starter
1967 - MVP, All-star starter
1968 - MVP, All-star starter, League leader in AVG and 3B
1969 - All-star, Gold Glove
Career Stats: 1989 Hits, 1074 Runs, 230 HR, 1035 RBI, 209 SB, .283 AVG, .800 OPS, 1 WS Ring
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=8236225]John Jimenez[/url] (NYN)
1961 - All-star starter
1963 - All-star
1964 - All-star
1965 - Gold Glove
1966 - All-star, Gold Glove
1967 - All-star starter
Career Stats: 2112 Hits, 1172 Runs, 235 HR, 949 RB, 157 SB, .291 Avg., .813 OS, 1 WS Ring
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458879]Mike Callahan[/url] (SEA)
1959 - Gold Glove
1960 - Gold Glove
1961 - All-star starter
1962 - All-star starter, Gold Glove
1963 - All-star, Gold Glove
1965 - All-star starter, Gold Glove, League leader in 2b
1966 - MVP, All-star starter, Gold Glove, Leauge leader in OPS, OBP and Avg.
1967 - All-star
1968 - Gold Glove
Career Stats: 2301 Hits, 1361 Runs, 227 HR, 1004 RBI, 37 SB, .288 Avg, .811 OPS 6 WS Rings
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7508230]Cesar Naylor[/url] (BRO)
1956 - Rookie of the Year
1957 - All-star starter
1958 - All-star
1959 - All-star, Gold Glove
1961 - All-star starter
1962 - All-star starter, Gold Glove
1963 - All-star starter
1964 - All-star starter
1965 - All-star starter
1967 - All-star
Career Stats: 2386 Hits, 1260 Runs, 224 HR, 1151 RBI, 358 SB, .293 Avg., .809 OPS 0 WS Rings
PITCHERS
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7508204]Luis Dawson[/url] (KC, SF)
1958 - All-star
1960 - All-star
1961 - All-star
1963 - All-star
Career Stats: 212 Wins, 12 CG, 5 SHO, 2243 SO, 1.21 WHIP, 3.63 ERA 0 WS Rings
[url=http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458295]Frank Bedgood[/url] (CHN)
1950 - League leader in CG
1953 - Leage leader in SHO
1955 - All-star, League leader in CG
1958 - All-star, League leader in SHO
1959 - All-star
1960 - Cy Young, All-star starter, League leader in Wins and SHO
1961 - All-star, League leader in SHO
Career Stats: 198 Wins, 110 CG (3rd all time), 30 SHO (3rd All-time) 2703 SO (5th All-time), 1.28 WHIP, 3.65 ERA, 0 WS Rings
[url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458697]John Lennon[/url] (SEA, TEX)
1954 - Fireman, All-star
1955 - Fireman, All-star
1956 - Fireman, All-star
1957 - Fireman, All-star
1958 - All-star
1961 - Fireman, All-star
1962 - Fireman, All-star
1963 - All-star
Career Stats: 46 Wins, 412 Saves (2nd All-time), 662 SO, 1.39 WHIP, 4.55 ERA 3 WS Rings
[Edited on 7-6-2011 by aonemanarmy]
GreenAndGold
July 07, 2011 at 10:38AM View BBCode
To be honest, I had the hardest time convincing myself to vote Woods in - him being an Oakland A certainly influenced me in the end.
Regarding my reasoning on Callahan:
First off, about world series rings. I don't think they should be factored as a primary reason to vote a guy in, but in Callahan's case, I think it should be considered as a contributing factor when looking at his case. He was the starter on 8 World Series teams - to get to the World Series, you usually want to have the best player you can reasonably have at every position - Callahan was this guy @ 2B, a rather premium position. And he scored 81 runs in 111 playoff games (458 PA) - yeah not every player gets to play in the playoffs, but if stats are considered those should be too.
(2) [url=http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=7458879&statsorimps=fielding]His defense[/url] is superlative. I would consider a player in the +5 to +15 a damn good fielder...this guy had a ridiculous +29 one year....in his career, per 162 games he was +22 at 2B. 7 gold gloves at a cursory glance looks to be the most amongst all the players listed this year (might be something nice to include in the future), and it needs to factor in his case quite substantially in my mind, especially considering his at least above average hitting.
(3) Frankly, I favor OBP% over AVG% slightly. The .288 itself is not that bad at all, just out of the top 25 all time, and the .363 OBP is 3rd best of the bunch(Bostick was at .362) listed above, and also higher than anyone in the hall of fame right now. Contributing to it is that he is #8 all-time in walks.
(4) His numbers might fall short in the main categories, but with the low health and what looks like lower position in the batting order earlier in his career, yes the stats are going to suffer a little. However, I read an interesting point a couple years ago in an article about Jim Rice's case for the HOF. Although Rice's career numbers didn't add up to an overly impressive total, he was at one point in his career the best player in the league; he won the MVP that season.
Looking at Callahan's spectacular '66 season:
- The .368 average is #1 all time in a single season - second is not even close, at .354
- OBP is also #1 all-time at a ridiculous .438
- Gold Glove +21
- MVP
- Seattle wins the World Series
In that season, he was the best player in the league. And he had other good seasons around it, so it wasn't a random fluke. This is the strongest reason I feel he should be in the hall of fame - comparable career averages and one incredible season. I know it was only 480 PA, but if the league records show that the AVG qualifies as the best of all-time, and he got the MVP, it's good enough reason for me.
Ultimately I think his overall resume should make him a lock for the HOF. The others, like Woods or Bostick, may compare to other HOFs in some stats, but so does Callahan. And sure had Woods had consistent power numbers(1000 more ABs) and Bostick had a MVP, but Callahan's MVP was record-breaking - 110 runs in a 115 games - it boggles my mind.
Ifhome run numbers and hits are used in other players' favor, Callahan's overall stats should also be considered. It's a crime he isn't getting more votes.
[Edited on 7-7-2011 by GreenAndGold]