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Jughead
This is a really strange draft pool anyway, but the real kicker is all these bunters. A typical draft might have a handful of guys with red bunting. This is just insane. And meaningless. But insane!
9 players in draft pool with A+ bunting
March 15, 2014 at 03:42AM View BBCode
http://simdynasty.com/draftprevnew.jsp?lid=1120This is a really strange draft pool anyway, but the real kicker is all these bunters. A typical draft might have a handful of guys with red bunting. This is just insane. And meaningless. But insane!
redcped
March 15, 2014 at 04:01AM View BBCode
Definitely rare. My two leagues' current draft lists combined have 1 red-letter bunter.
paulcaraccio
March 15, 2014 at 08:42AM View BBCode
its not totally meaningless, some guys get kind of a lot of bunt singles.
WillyD
Hetki will benefit from his A+, but the other players, not so much.
March 15, 2014 at 02:04PM View BBCode
Crazy!Hetki will benefit from his A+, but the other players, not so much.
tworoosters
I've always found it odd that bunting, which is a teachable skill, cannot improve in the SIM but speed can improve by 6+ grades.
March 15, 2014 at 04:08PM View BBCode
I can honestly say I have never once looked at a player's bunting rating, but since my only current active league has exactly one red letter bunter, A-, I'm guessing that draft pool is an outlier .I've always found it odd that bunting, which is a teachable skill, cannot improve in the SIM but speed can improve by 6+ grades.
Mongrel
March 15, 2014 at 04:32PM View BBCode
I noticed a very high amount of red letter bunting in the ASL (beta league). There's also a great deal of bunt singles as a result, probably too much. I'd like to see more of that in the real leagues, but with more realistic situations for it to occur.
TuffHunter
http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?mode=player&playername=nobody&id=10929890
March 15, 2014 at 06:06PM View BBCode
This guy has actually had quite a few bunt singles for me. Only B+ bunting but A+ speed:http://simdynasty.com/player.jsp?mode=player&playername=nobody&id=10929890
redcped
March 16, 2014 at 12:13AM View BBCode
I once had a good slugger who happened to have excellent bunting skills. I cringed every time he bunted, even if he got a hit.
paulcaraccio
March 16, 2014 at 01:38AM View BBCode
haha, i always wish guys like Teixeira would lay one down against the shift. maybe we can pretend that's what your guy was doing.
Jughead
March 16, 2014 at 11:11PM View BBCode
Bunt + speed > 150 means it can bunt for a hit. So it's not completely random, but it is something to think about if you have a draftee who already "qualifies" for bunting for a hit. There is a thread somewhere that tracked the effect. I think it came out to an extra 3 singles per 100 at-bats. I don't know whether having a higher total has an effect and whether it matters which score should be higher, although having higher speed helps hitting in general anyway.
WillyD
No need to cringe. First off, they are always successful. Secondly, bunting never replaces a positive outcome for the batter. If the player hadn't bunted, he would have been out.
March 17, 2014 at 01:26AM View BBCode
Originally posted by redcped
I once had a good slugger who happened to have excellent bunting skills. I cringed every time he bunted, even if he got a hit.
No need to cringe. First off, they are always successful. Secondly, bunting never replaces a positive outcome for the batter. If the player hadn't bunted, he would have been out.
WillyD
It's actually 152. And the higher the better for frequency. I once had a contact hitting CF with A+ on both speed and bunting, and was able to witness 20 bunt hits in a season, and a bunch of games where he bunted for a hit twice in a game.
March 17, 2014 at 01:33AM View BBCode
Originally posted by Jughead
Bunt + speed > 150 means it can bunt for a hit. So it's not completely random, but it is something to think about if you have a draftee who already "qualifies" for bunting for a hit. There is a thread somewhere that tracked the effect. I think it came out to an extra 3 singles per 100 at-bats. I don't know whether having a higher total has an effect and whether it matters which score should be higher, although having higher speed helps hitting in general anyway.
It's actually 152. And the higher the better for frequency. I once had a contact hitting CF with A+ on both speed and bunting, and was able to witness 20 bunt hits in a season, and a bunch of games where he bunted for a hit twice in a game.
redcped
I knew that they were only showed as successful plays, although part of me is wondering why they don't show you the outs that are made as failed attempts. Seems odd.
But the second part here surprises me. You are saying that somehow the code is replacing a known out result with a safe bunt hit occasionally?
So there wasn't first a decision not to swing away? And then an outcome is determined?
That's rather baffling logic, and frankly it's such a little used part of the game that I'd never thought to question it. I just assumed that my slugger was taking the bat out of his own hand and laying one down.
I suppose none of this should surprise me since it's still not possible for a position player to sacrifice bunt, some 12 years down the line here. A continued unfortunate oversight, though one Earl Weaver wouldn't have been upset about.
March 17, 2014 at 03:38AM View BBCode
Originally posted by WillyD
Originally posted by redcped
I once had a good slugger who happened to have excellent bunting skills. I cringed every time he bunted, even if he got a hit.
No need to cringe. First off, they are always successful. Secondly, bunting never replaces a positive outcome for the batter. If the player hadn't bunted, he would have been out.
I knew that they were only showed as successful plays, although part of me is wondering why they don't show you the outs that are made as failed attempts. Seems odd.
But the second part here surprises me. You are saying that somehow the code is replacing a known out result with a safe bunt hit occasionally?
So there wasn't first a decision not to swing away? And then an outcome is determined?
That's rather baffling logic, and frankly it's such a little used part of the game that I'd never thought to question it. I just assumed that my slugger was taking the bat out of his own hand and laying one down.
I suppose none of this should surprise me since it's still not possible for a position player to sacrifice bunt, some 12 years down the line here. A continued unfortunate oversight, though one Earl Weaver wouldn't have been upset about.
Jughead
March 17, 2014 at 06:05AM View BBCode
I've had two more drafts populate today, and both had several A+ bunters. This is something I always check, so it isn't selective memory. If this continues for another few weeks, the only conclusion is that whatever generates the draft pool has been changed.
WillyD
Me too. Seems to me that there's been a change made.
March 17, 2014 at 10:30PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Jughead
I've had two more drafts populate today, and both had several A+ bunters. This is something I always check, so it isn't selective memory. If this continues for another few weeks, the only conclusion is that whatever generates the draft pool has been changed.
Me too. Seems to me that there's been a change made.
Jughead
March 19, 2014 at 06:26PM View BBCode
Adding bunting has always scored well on ideascale. Maybe this is finally being created. 1985 Cardinals, here I come!
Jughead
March 24, 2014 at 05:30AM View BBCode
Yeah the new GPL draft has six A+ guys and more than 10 red bunters. Something happened.
KegRollers
March 26, 2014 at 04:35PM View BBCode
WFL just populated it's draft... 18 red bunters (9 A+, 4 A, 5 A-). Only 7 are pitchers.Pages: 1