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John61983
Jimmy Rollins Streak
April 06, 2006 at 05:31PM View BBCode
So he's at 38 hits and counting. Anyone want to take a guess when it ends? Will he beat the streak?
folifan19
BTW, what IS that funky looking yellow thing in your avatar?
April 06, 2006 at 05:36PM View BBCode
He's a good hitter. I think he has a shot. The bad part is that he wasn't able to start the streak at a time in the season that he'd have enough games to have the single season record. I think it's as impressive to go a few months in the off season, then pick up where you left off next season.BTW, what IS that funky looking yellow thing in your avatar?
yankeekid
April 06, 2006 at 05:37PM View BBCode
He's in 10th place now we'll see, but somehow I doubt he'll pass DiMaggio. Still almost 20 short.
JollyGreenGiant
I'm guessing it'll probably end within 4 games or so.
April 06, 2006 at 07:35PM View BBCode
Originally posted by John61983
So he's at 38 hits and counting. Anyone want to take a guess when it ends? Will he beat the streak?
I'm guessing it'll probably end within 4 games or so.
ME
April 06, 2006 at 08:08PM View BBCode
This streak is worthless because it's not all done in the same season.
folifan19
April 06, 2006 at 08:20PM View BBCode
It's something to distract us from the Steroid Circus. Anything that can steal some of the limelight from Bonds is really great in my opinion.
yankeekid
Looks like a banana or something...
April 06, 2006 at 08:21PM View BBCode
Originally posted by folifan19
BTW, what IS that funky looking yellow thing in your avatar?
Looks like a banana or something...
FuriousGiorge
April 06, 2006 at 08:22PM View BBCode
Despite what the ESPN propaganda machine might be telling you, no one cares about nor is watching "Bonds on Bonds", and Barry Bonds' chase of the home run record is about the 10th or 15th most interesting story in baseball.
whiskybear
My greatest hope in all of this is that Rollins tears his ACL maybe ten games into the season, with the hitting streak still alive---not out of any malice for Rollins, but so that he can come back next year and get to work on a hitting streak spanning three different seasons.
April 06, 2006 at 08:30PM View BBCode
Ignoring ME's powers of broad generalization for a moment, I don't think anyone needs to start asking whether or not Rollins will "catch" DiMaggio. Rollins needs hits in exactly 54 more games consecutively to tie DiMaggio's record. As has been mentioned above, Rollins is trying to set the record for longest hitting streak between two seasons. In that case, he's chasing Wee Willie Keeler, who hit safely in 45 consecutive games between two seasons (don't recall which ones).My greatest hope in all of this is that Rollins tears his ACL maybe ten games into the season, with the hitting streak still alive---not out of any malice for Rollins, but so that he can come back next year and get to work on a hitting streak spanning three different seasons.
FuriousGiorge
April 06, 2006 at 08:44PM View BBCode
I really don't see the difference between an in-season hitting streak and one which spans two seasons. If Rollins hits in 57 straight games between last season and this, that's the new hitting streak record.
whiskybear
DiMaggio hit safely in 56 games, resting only on off-days. Rollins hit safely in 36 games, then took a six-month break (and probably went hitless in a few spring training games, anyway) before resuming his pursuit of the record. There's a difference.
April 06, 2006 at 08:58PM View BBCode
Umm...no doctor.DiMaggio hit safely in 56 games, resting only on off-days. Rollins hit safely in 36 games, then took a six-month break (and probably went hitless in a few spring training games, anyway) before resuming his pursuit of the record. There's a difference.
FuriousGiorge
April 06, 2006 at 09:06PM View BBCode
Give me a break. It's hitting a baseball for 56 days straight, not running a marathon. Baseball is a low-effort game, and it's not any sort of test of endurance to see whether you can play it at a high level for several days straight. You get to go home and rest every night, or possibly go down to the Copa and pick up some foxy dames and nail them in the back of Frank Sinatra's limo. It's exactly as difficult to pick up a hitting streak after the offseason as it is after an off day.
whiskybear
Fatigue vs. health---doesn't this question pervade the "Suggest Enhancements" thread? It might not be too tiring to play baseball on a daily basis, but it can lead to injuries, even little ones that pile up as the season wears on---a tender hammy, a sprained index finger, a severe hangover. Rollins starts 2006 with a clean slate; you can bet he felt a lot fresher on April 3, 2006 than he did on Sept. 30, 2005.
April 06, 2006 at 09:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
Baseball is a low-effort game, and it's not any sort of test of endurance to see whether you can play it at a high level for several days straight.
Fatigue vs. health---doesn't this question pervade the "Suggest Enhancements" thread? It might not be too tiring to play baseball on a daily basis, but it can lead to injuries, even little ones that pile up as the season wears on---a tender hammy, a sprained index finger, a severe hangover. Rollins starts 2006 with a clean slate; you can bet he felt a lot fresher on April 3, 2006 than he did on Sept. 30, 2005.
FuriousGiorge
April 06, 2006 at 09:21PM View BBCode
That's a very nebulous area to start going into if you want to negate this entire streak - Jimmy Rollins (or any player) is fully capable of going 0-for-30 with a completely perfect bill of health, and also capable of hitting .600 for a week while suffering from a nasty case of the clap because he took Sinatra's seconds. The fact remains that the end of the season is a deadline completely out of the control of any player, and he has done (so far) exactly what DiMaggio did - hit the baseball successfully in every game his team has played since the streak started.
sycophantman
[Edited on 4/6/2006 by sycophantman]
April 06, 2006 at 09:28PM View BBCode
I'm with Furious on this one, the accomplishment is being able to do this with the pressure building constantly with each game that you extend the streak. The media spotlight is going to be just as bright on Rollins if he gets close, regardless if the streak is in one season or two. If we're willing to accept Bonds single season HR record with a wink, then surely we can appreciate Rollins and his chase of Dimaggio...[Edited on 4/6/2006 by sycophantman]
whiskybear
I never did this. Those 36 games count for something, just not in pursuing the single-season hitting streak record, which is held by DiMaggio.
It's harder to hit a baseball when you're dealing with a season's worth of injuries. You can use rhetoric and humor to try and dismiss that, but you've done little to convince me that Rollins can't use a 6-month offseason to his advantage, in time for recovery, training and fitness.
April 06, 2006 at 09:34PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
That's a very nebulous area to start going into if you want to negate this entire streak...
I never did this. Those 36 games count for something, just not in pursuing the single-season hitting streak record, which is held by DiMaggio.
It's harder to hit a baseball when you're dealing with a season's worth of injuries. You can use rhetoric and humor to try and dismiss that, but you've done little to convince me that Rollins can't use a 6-month offseason to his advantage, in time for recovery, training and fitness.
sycophantman
April 06, 2006 at 09:36PM View BBCode
Some would argue that staying in mid-season form is an advantage over resting for an offseason...
FuriousGiorge
What I meant, of course, was "the entirety of Rollins' streak".
April 06, 2006 at 09:39PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
That's a very nebulous area to start going into if you want to negate this entire streak...
I never did this. Those 36 games count for something, just not in pursuing the single-season hitting streak record, which is held by DiMaggio.
What I meant, of course, was "the entirety of Rollins' streak".
FuriousGiorge
This argument would make more sense if there was some sort of evidence that it's easier to hit the ball at the beginning of the season. Of course, while Jimmy Rollins (or J-roll, properly) is resting over the offseason, so are the pitchers who are trying to get him out.
April 06, 2006 at 09:45PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
It's harder to hit a baseball when you're dealing with a season's worth of injuries. You can use rhetoric and humor to try and dismiss that, but you've done little to convince me that Rollins can't use a 6-month offseason to his advantage, in time for recovery, training and fitness.
This argument would make more sense if there was some sort of evidence that it's easier to hit the ball at the beginning of the season. Of course, while Jimmy Rollins (or J-roll, properly) is resting over the offseason, so are the pitchers who are trying to get him out.
whiskybear
We're obviously not going to agree on this one, but here's a wrinkle, purely hypothetical: say the Phillies qualify for the playoffs last season, and J-Roll goes 0-for-3 with a walk in the first game of the NLDS. What do we do with his hitting streak then? Do we hide behind the "regular-season" tag?
[Edited on 4-6-2006 by whiskybear]
April 06, 2006 at 09:56PM View BBCode
Valid point, that.We're obviously not going to agree on this one, but here's a wrinkle, purely hypothetical: say the Phillies qualify for the playoffs last season, and J-Roll goes 0-for-3 with a walk in the first game of the NLDS. What do we do with his hitting streak then? Do we hide behind the "regular-season" tag?
[Edited on 4-6-2006 by whiskybear]
FuriousGiorge
April 06, 2006 at 10:00PM View BBCode
You pretty much have to. Everything gets put down for the postseason. I think Hershiser's scoreless innings streak extended into the 1988 postseason, but those innings aren't counted. It's too much of a slippery slope to start allowing postseason numbers into regular season record books - better to keep them seperate.Pages: 1 2