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dirtdevil
July 31, 2008 at 11:42AM View BBCode
well boston certainly won't trade him to the yankees. maybe seattle will step up at the last minute?
barterer2002
July 31, 2008 at 12:42PM View BBCode
It sounds good for the Marlins but unless Manny learns how to pitch it won't push them into the playoffs.
sycophantman
July 31, 2008 at 12:53PM View BBCode
Are the Marlins any kind of threat? I honestly haven't followed them very closely at all. Is this going to be yet another surprise Marlins playoff run this year?
khazim
July 31, 2008 at 02:24PM View BBCode
Is this the triangle trade between Boston, Pittsburgh, and Florida?
FuriousGiorge
July 31, 2008 at 02:29PM View formatted
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Something like that. The Sox should just exile him to Pittsburgh instead.
Hamilton2
July 31, 2008 at 03:57PM View BBCode
1.5 out in the NL East. Bah. The only thing worse in the D-Backs 1 game lead in the NL West. I don't think they are any sort of remote "playoff threat."
happy
and the diamondbacks will probably make the playoffs becasue everyone else in their division is so worthless. Dodgers maybe, but diamondbacks are better than them too.
July 31, 2008 at 04:19PM View BBCode
Marlins are screwed. They started off hot becuase they have an extremely front loaded schedule. they are going to "fade" at the end because they have one of the hardest schedules in baseball here on in. BP has their petoca adjusted playoff odds at 6.5%and the diamondbacks will probably make the playoffs becasue everyone else in their division is so worthless. Dodgers maybe, but diamondbacks are better than them too.
khazim
Bite your tongue! D-Backs, Dodgers, and Rockies are all 7-3 since the All-Star break.
July 31, 2008 at 04:28PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2
1.5 out in the NL East. Bah. The only thing worse in the D-Backs 1 game lead in the NL West. I don't think they are any sort of remote "playoff threat."
Bite your tongue! D-Backs, Dodgers, and Rockies are all 7-3 since the All-Star break.
Hamilton2
July 31, 2008 at 04:34PM View BBCode
Sorry, Khaz, it's true. I'll take the D-Backs SPing over anyone in baseball, but the division as a whole just sucks.
khazim
No apologies needed. It's absolutely true.:(
I still think the Rockies stand a chance. Aaron Cook and Brandon Webb hold the lead for most wins in the NL currently, as scary as that is.
July 31, 2008 at 05:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2
Sorry, Khaz, it's true. I'll take the D-Backs SPing over anyone in baseball, but the division as a whole just sucks.
No apologies needed. It's absolutely true.:(
I still think the Rockies stand a chance. Aaron Cook and Brandon Webb hold the lead for most wins in the NL currently, as scary as that is.
ME
Their top-2, maybe, but I'd take Boston, LA Angels, and a few others over their whole staff.
July 31, 2008 at 07:55PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2
Sorry, Khaz, it's true. I'll take the D-Backs SPing over anyone in baseball, but the division as a whole just sucks.
Their top-2, maybe, but I'd take Boston, LA Angels, and a few others over their whole staff.
Hamilton2
July 31, 2008 at 08:00PM View BBCode
In the playoffs, all you need is 2. Ala '02 D-Backs, Johnson/Schilling.
FuriousGiorge
July 31, 2008 at 08:06PM View BBCode
There are no perfect teams. Consistency. Concetration. Gary Sheffield.
whiskybear
That was '01 -- remember how Schilling and Johnson planned 9/11 and then stuck it to New York in the World Series a couple months later?
July 31, 2008 at 08:12PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2
In the playoffs, all you need is 2. Ala '02 D-Backs, Johnson/Schilling.
That was '01 -- remember how Schilling and Johnson planned 9/11 and then stuck it to New York in the World Series a couple months later?
Hamilton2
Oh yeah ... my bad. Faulty memory.
July 31, 2008 at 08:17PM View BBCode
Originally posted by whiskybear
Originally posted by Hamilton2
In the playoffs, all you need is 2. Ala '02 D-Backs, Johnson/Schilling.
That was '01 -- remember how Schilling and Johnson planned 9/11 and then stuck it to New York in the World Series a couple months later?
Oh yeah ... my bad. Faulty memory.
FuriousGiorge
July 31, 2008 at 09:03PM View BBCode
On the surface, it seems like a good deal for the Pirates and the Sox and a mediocre one for the Dodgers. But I don't know the prospects that well.
Hamilton2
July 31, 2008 at 09:05PM View BBCode
Oh, this is bad. (At least, it is if you are a fan of the D-Backs or the Rockies! LOL)
Hamilton2
That's a good analysis. The 3B is totally legit. Not sure which of the pitchers is the best, but they got 3, so it can't be a bad deal, I don't think.
Manny will play well for this season, which is what the Dodgers need. They have some younger talent coming up next year and the year after, so they don't need Manny to be their 3/4 guy for the next 4 years, just this one.
July 31, 2008 at 09:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by FuriousGiorge
On the surface, it seems like a good deal for the Pirates and the Sox and a mediocre one for the Dodgers. But I don't know the prospects that well.
That's a good analysis. The 3B is totally legit. Not sure which of the pitchers is the best, but they got 3, so it can't be a bad deal, I don't think.
Manny will play well for this season, which is what the Dodgers need. They have some younger talent coming up next year and the year after, so they don't need Manny to be their 3/4 guy for the next 4 years, just this one.
FuriousGiorge
The Sox get rid of a big problem that was threatening to get bigger, and replace him with similar production but without all the baggage. They have to unload a couple of prospects to do it, but I'm not sold on Hansen's long-term value. Basically, they retain the status quo on the field, and vastly improve things in the locker room (assuming this doesn't have some sort of debilitating effect on David Ortiz but really, the man's a professional, one should always expect a professional to do their job until they show you otherwise).
The Pirates get rid of someone who wasn't in their long-term plans, and get some decent-upside youngsters.
July 31, 2008 at 09:25PM View BBCode
The Dodgers are a schizophrenic organization - they still come up with a decent amount of talent out of their farm system, but they're completely committed to winning their division every year, so a lot of guys who should be playing end up getting blocked by veterans. And then they hired Joe Torre, who's sort of calcified into an anti-rookie manager. If they end up winning the NL West this year then they'll have achieved their goal, but one wonders if they wouldn't be better served by dialing it back to 3 or 4 and committing themselves to a youth movement.The Sox get rid of a big problem that was threatening to get bigger, and replace him with similar production but without all the baggage. They have to unload a couple of prospects to do it, but I'm not sold on Hansen's long-term value. Basically, they retain the status quo on the field, and vastly improve things in the locker room (assuming this doesn't have some sort of debilitating effect on David Ortiz but really, the man's a professional, one should always expect a professional to do their job until they show you otherwise).
The Pirates get rid of someone who wasn't in their long-term plans, and get some decent-upside youngsters.
Hamilton2
July 31, 2008 at 09:33PM View BBCode
Here here. That's exactly what the Dodgers have done since moving to LA. They are short-sighted and frustrating. Anyway, Manny will do well for the remainder of the season and gives the man edge in the very weak NL West.Pages: 1 2