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thatrogue
Who Closed The Fire Josh McDaniels Thread?
October 29, 2010 at 12:07PM View BBCode
What's the deal? [url=http://www.simdynasty.com/oldforum-viewthread.jsp?tid=237725&page=14]I wanted to post an update following last weekend's absolute drubbing by the Raiders.[/url]
dirtdevil
(that gane knocked me out of the survivor pool, by the way. stupid broncos.)
October 29, 2010 at 01:58PM View BBCode
probably tyson. vurbil was getting a bit belligerent around the end there. i think there were a few vurbil-related thread closures that day.(that gane knocked me out of the survivor pool, by the way. stupid broncos.)
tm4559
(chump. why didn't you just take the cowboys?)
October 29, 2010 at 03:14PM View BBCode
ha ha broncos.(chump. why didn't you just take the cowboys?)
tworoosters
October 29, 2010 at 04:00PM View BBCode
I woke up from a nap and turned on the game, saw it was 21-0 and thought: "Wow I must have really overslept" then saw that it was only halfway through the first quarter .
dirtdevil
i already lost with the once and the rules wouldn't let me lose with them again. the symmertry of it would have been nice though.
October 29, 2010 at 05:00PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tm4559
ha ha broncos.
(chump. why didn't you just take the cowboys?)
i already lost with the once and the rules wouldn't let me lose with them again. the symmertry of it would have been nice though.
thatrogue
November 08, 2010 at 12:23PM View BBCode
Because I enjoy [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Av5fOfObyZCTs1c4MSRKk95DubYF?slug=cr-winnersandlosers110710]heaping abuse upon McDaniels.[/url]
Hamilton2
Also, Wade Phillips was finally fired.
November 08, 2010 at 08:35PM View BBCode
Hillis is saving my fantasy football season. I lost Ryan Grant in both leagues and picked up Hillis and if I do somehow manage to salvage something after 1-3 starts in both leagues, I credit him completely.Also, Wade Phillips was finally fired.
Hamilton2
November 09, 2010 at 03:44AM View BBCode
Jason Garrett should be worried. Quoth Jerry Jones, "Jason has the full support of this organization."
dirtdevil
November 09, 2010 at 04:19AM View BBCode
garrett's best hope is that the team does well enough to get him another job somewhere else.
thatrogue
In all fairness, I do understand a scenario in which this could happen: the videographer fears the Broncos losing season could result in McDaniels firing, which impacts his own job security, and thus tapes the 49'ers walkthough...which had previously worked for them in New England. He then offers the tape to McDaniels, who declines to use it, but also does not turn in said videographer, because they were friends. However, someone else blows the whistle to Bowlen, who turns the information over to the NFL, as to not have a repeat of the penalties New England received.
Unfortunately, this is just another embarrassing blemish on McDaniels underwhelming tenure in Denver. It would not surprise me to see him become a successful head coach in the future (ala Belichick), but he has been clearly overmatched in this first opportunity...to the detriment of the Broncos and their fans.
Spygate comes to Denver
November 28, 2010 at 11:19AM View BBCode
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/27/broncos-under-investigation-for-taping-49ers-practice/]So the Broncos get investigated for videotaping the 49'ers walkthrough practice[/url] and now [url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/27/nfl-broncos-say-steve-scarnecchia-acted-alone/]only the videographer takes the fall[/url]?In all fairness, I do understand a scenario in which this could happen: the videographer fears the Broncos losing season could result in McDaniels firing, which impacts his own job security, and thus tapes the 49'ers walkthough...which had previously worked for them in New England. He then offers the tape to McDaniels, who declines to use it, but also does not turn in said videographer, because they were friends. However, someone else blows the whistle to Bowlen, who turns the information over to the NFL, as to not have a repeat of the penalties New England received.
Unfortunately, this is just another embarrassing blemish on McDaniels underwhelming tenure in Denver. It would not surprise me to see him become a successful head coach in the future (ala Belichick), but he has been clearly overmatched in this first opportunity...to the detriment of the Broncos and their fans.
dirtdevil
1) that's probably not what happened (i understand you aren't saying it is)
2) that seems to be even more evidence (albeit circumstantial) that the pats were, in fact, doing exactly what they were accused of doing
3) i'll bet there are still pats fans who don't believe their team taped anything
December 02, 2010 at 06:57PM View BBCode
reading that i'm thinking three things:1) that's probably not what happened (i understand you aren't saying it is)
2) that seems to be even more evidence (albeit circumstantial) that the pats were, in fact, doing exactly what they were accused of doing
3) i'll bet there are still pats fans who don't believe their team taped anything
bpearly69
December 07, 2010 at 12:13AM View BBCode
i still think he'll be a good coach, after the whole camera thing though i think everyone saw this coming
vurbil
December 07, 2010 at 01:11AM View formatted
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Of course the Patriots were doing what they were accused of doing. The problem is that most haters don't know what they were accused of. What they did was very common. And don't take my word for it. Take the word of Jimmy Johnson and several other NFL coaches.
khazim
This is lesson #2 why head coaches being successful general managers should be the league exception and not the rule. This is the second head coach that, IMO, Denver has fired for failures as General Manager.
December 07, 2010 at 02:04AM View BBCode
and the Broncos have "relieved McDaniels of head coaching duties". The careful wording tells me they are going to file a grievance with the NFL that he is being fired for cause (Spygate Jr.), which would let the Broncos fire him without paying him dime 1 in severance.This is lesson #2 why head coaches being successful general managers should be the league exception and not the rule. This is the second head coach that, IMO, Denver has fired for failures as General Manager.
barterer2002
December 07, 2010 at 04:09PM View BBCode
Kubiak was never Denver coach. It was Shanahan
thatrogue
(See what happens when you close the original thread? All the juicy references get lost.)
December 07, 2010 at 04:31PM View BBCode
Derek was referencing Khazim's contention that Denver's success during the late 90's was primarily attributable to Gary Kubiak, while its failures, post-Elway, were mainly attributable to Shanahan.(See what happens when you close the original thread? All the juicy references get lost.)
khazim
December 07, 2010 at 07:32PM View BBCode
And I still hold that contention. Kubiak called the offense. Shanahan brought in the personnel. The failures of Shanahan were personnel moves/draft choices.
Hamilton2
December 07, 2010 at 09:05PM View BBCode
So, Kubiak won with players that Shanahan brought in? Which makes Shanahan's personnel decisions "failures?"
dirtdevil
December 08, 2010 at 01:17AM View BBCode
and how are the houston texans doing, by the way?
khazim
BTW, Urban Meyer has just stepped down as Florida's head coach. Denver just happens to have a vacancy at head coach. coincidence?
December 08, 2010 at 08:26PM View BBCode
Kubiak won with the play calling. Shanahan's draft failures make for a long list.BTW, Urban Meyer has just stepped down as Florida's head coach. Denver just happens to have a vacancy at head coach. coincidence?
bpearly69
December 08, 2010 at 08:52PM View BBCode
He said one of the main reasons was so he could spend more time with family.