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KLKRTR
NFL Lockout?
March 08, 2011 at 01:24AM View BBCode
What do you guys think? I'm thinking we'll see one more 1-week extension before they come to an agreement...
Admin
--Chris
March 08, 2011 at 01:28AM View BBCode
There won't be a lockout. There is more than enough money involved to make any reasonable party happy. Right now the NFL is the most popular sport in the country but a strike kills a lot of goodwill with the fans, they don't want to lose that momentum.--Chris
KLKRTR
March 08, 2011 at 01:30AM View BBCode
Do you think it will be settled soon or closer to the season though? Cause I'm betting we'll see at least a prelim agreement within the next 2 weeks...
Hamilton2
March 08, 2011 at 04:17AM View BBCode
I think they will at least have an arrangement in place for THIS season prior to the draft in April. I wouldn't be surprised though if they negotiate it as a 1 or 2 year deal and then re-negotiate during the season(s).
dirtdevil
March 08, 2011 at 06:04PM View BBCode
honestly, this is a dispute that could probably be equitably settled by the average 5 year old. for that reason, i'm with bart.
dirtdevil
1) the owners get 1.5 billion off the top
2) 18 game schedule
3) rookie wage limits
4) larger rosters (to offset 2)
5) better health coverage for former players
6) higher salary cap with floor
7) reduced or eliminated franchise tags
8) earlier true free agency (to offset 3)
March 08, 2011 at 06:10PM View BBCode
i imagine the eventual settlement will look something like:1) the owners get 1.5 billion off the top
2) 18 game schedule
3) rookie wage limits
4) larger rosters (to offset 2)
5) better health coverage for former players
6) higher salary cap with floor
7) reduced or eliminated franchise tags
8) earlier true free agency (to offset 3)
KLKRTR
I don't see this happening..they may have a working agreement to get them some more time to finalize stuff, but I don't think they'll do something for just 1 to 2 years....they'll want this to be a long-term thing, so if they have something that lasts 2 years, then you're going to run all the way to the deadline again..
I do think dd has the final part looking good...but who knows?
March 08, 2011 at 06:13PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2
I think they will at least have an arrangement in place for THIS season prior to the draft in April. I wouldn't be surprised though if they negotiate it as a 1 or 2 year deal and then re-negotiate during the season(s).
I don't see this happening..they may have a working agreement to get them some more time to finalize stuff, but I don't think they'll do something for just 1 to 2 years....they'll want this to be a long-term thing, so if they have something that lasts 2 years, then you're going to run all the way to the deadline again..
I do think dd has the final part looking good...but who knows?
Hamilton2
That sounds almost too good to be true. Everyone wins. :)
March 08, 2011 at 06:52PM View BBCode
Originally posted by dirtdevil
i imagine the eventual settlement will look something like:
1) the owners get 1.5 billion off the top
2) 18 game schedule
3) rookie wage limits
4) larger rosters (to offset 2)
5) better health coverage for former players
6) higher salary cap with floor
7) reduced or eliminated franchise tags
8) earlier true free agency (to offset 3)
That sounds almost too good to be true. Everyone wins. :)
Kingturtle
March 08, 2011 at 09:31PM View BBCode
if my contract is based on 16 games, and they want me to play 18, then you're going to have to pay me the difference.
tworoosters
Not if your union, you know the legal bargaining unit that you put in charge of negotiating a collective bargaining agreement, bargains it away .
March 08, 2011 at 10:14PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Kingturtle
if my contract is based on 16 games, and they want me to play 18, then you're going to have to pay me the difference.
Not if your union, you know the legal bargaining unit that you put in charge of negotiating a collective bargaining agreement, bargains it away .
Admin
--Chris
March 08, 2011 at 10:33PM View BBCode
It's the same number of games overall, since they'd eliminate two preseason games.--Chris
dirtdevil
that will be the owners argument, certainly. the two aren't at all equitable though.
March 08, 2011 at 10:52PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Admin
It's the same number of games overall, since they'd eliminate two preseason games.
--Chris
that will be the owners argument, certainly. the two aren't at all equitable though.
dirtdevil
as i said, a 5 year old could settle this thing in an hour or so. but since the owners seem intent on driving the players union back to the stone age, i'm not optomistic that they'll allow any 5 year olds into the bargaining session.
March 08, 2011 at 10:55PM View BBCode
Originally posted by Hamilton2
Originally posted by dirtdevil
i imagine the eventual settlement will look something like:
1) the owners get 1.5 billion off the top
2) 18 game schedule
3) rookie wage limits
4) larger rosters (to offset 2)
5) better health coverage for former players
6) higher salary cap with floor
7) reduced or eliminated franchise tags
8) earlier true free agency (to offset 3)
That sounds almost too good to be true. Everyone wins. :)
as i said, a 5 year old could settle this thing in an hour or so. but since the owners seem intent on driving the players union back to the stone age, i'm not optomistic that they'll allow any 5 year olds into the bargaining session.
KLKRTR
March 09, 2011 at 03:31AM View BBCode
If by stone age you mean playing 6 hours of football more, then yes. I think if there's an increase in roster size, you can afford to do the 18 games. I'm a big proponent of the preseason games, so don't get me wrong (great place to find hidden talent), but I also think that if done right, it'll work out the same. The owners don't gain that much more from an 18-game schedule from tickets though..only from TV networks..
dirtdevil
no, i mean the 1960's. the owners are trying to break the union and run the league more or less by fiat. that's understandably not going to fly with the union, which is why we're here.
(also, the big money comes from the tv contracts, not the tickets. that's the whole idea behind the extended schedule.)
March 09, 2011 at 04:07PM View BBCode
Originally posted by KLKRTR
If by stone age you mean playing 6 hours of football more, then yes.
no, i mean the 1960's. the owners are trying to break the union and run the league more or less by fiat. that's understandably not going to fly with the union, which is why we're here.
(also, the big money comes from the tv contracts, not the tickets. that's the whole idea behind the extended schedule.)
barterer2002
March 09, 2011 at 04:38PM View formatted
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Its going to stay at 16 games.
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