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KLKRTR
I just figured this forum needed some activity (plus I'm bored).
College Basketball
March 08, 2011 at 01:28AM View BBCode
I'm personally a U of Florida basketball fan, so we're feeling pretty good about a 3-seed (assuming the SEC Tourny goes as planned), but what about everyone else? Fans of bubble teams? of top 10 teams? of NIT hopefuls?I just figured this forum needed some activity (plus I'm bored).
Hamilton2
I don't have a "team" that I root for every year. I usually watch the first round cheering for the underdogs and being mostly disappointed and then pick one of the "favorites" that I have enjoyed watching and cheer for them the rest of the way.
I have a Grandpa who is a Kansas alum, so he always roots for them and if I see him during March I'd better be wearing Jayhawk blue or I'm in trouble. My other Grandpa bleeds University of New Mexico Lobo red, so I always cheer for them if they happen to make it into the tournament.
My favorite style of play is Syracuse's zone defense, and I usually enjoy any team coached by Roy Williams or Mike K ... the style is just fun to watch.
March 08, 2011 at 04:24AM View BBCode
(Don't you have midterms to study for ... ) ;)I don't have a "team" that I root for every year. I usually watch the first round cheering for the underdogs and being mostly disappointed and then pick one of the "favorites" that I have enjoyed watching and cheer for them the rest of the way.
I have a Grandpa who is a Kansas alum, so he always roots for them and if I see him during March I'd better be wearing Jayhawk blue or I'm in trouble. My other Grandpa bleeds University of New Mexico Lobo red, so I always cheer for them if they happen to make it into the tournament.
My favorite style of play is Syracuse's zone defense, and I usually enjoy any team coached by Roy Williams or Mike K ... the style is just fun to watch.
KLKRTR
I do enjoy watching the underdogs as well, especially in the past few years when Florida has been in the NIT....(2 ntl champs and then 2 years in the NIT before getting back to the big dance)
It's definitely not my favorite sport, and the regular season pretty much sucks, but it is fun to watch that tournament....though of course, going to school with a bunch of UNC and Duke fans, it can be rough...
March 08, 2011 at 06:21PM View BBCode
Spring Break this week :PI do enjoy watching the underdogs as well, especially in the past few years when Florida has been in the NIT....(2 ntl champs and then 2 years in the NIT before getting back to the big dance)
It's definitely not my favorite sport, and the regular season pretty much sucks, but it is fun to watch that tournament....though of course, going to school with a bunch of UNC and Duke fans, it can be rough...
tworoosters
I'm a UCLA fan, but with such a young team I think sweet 16 would be a best case for the Bruins.
I will be very surprised if either Kansas or Ohio State don't win it all but the nature of the tourney, one bad game and you're out makes for great entertainment. Notre Dame seem to be peaking at the right time but I'll take Syracuse as my sleeper, if you can call #11 a sleeper .
March 08, 2011 at 08:20PM View BBCode
Florida should get a #3 unless something bizarre happens in the SEC tourney and they have a shot at the round of eight, anything more would be a huge upset in my mind, it's tough to beat really good team when your top two scorers both shoot around the 40% range.I'm a UCLA fan, but with such a young team I think sweet 16 would be a best case for the Bruins.
I will be very surprised if either Kansas or Ohio State don't win it all but the nature of the tourney, one bad game and you're out makes for great entertainment. Notre Dame seem to be peaking at the right time but I'll take Syracuse as my sleeper, if you can call #11 a sleeper .
wheelithoss
Shocked at the way the game ended just now. Can't believe Refs could let that happen
March 09, 2011 at 11:34PM View BBCode
As you can see by my Avatar I am a St. John's fan. Happy to finally have a team that is relevant again. Ready for them to make a run in the Big East tournament and then make a good run in the NCAA's!Shocked at the way the game ended just now. Can't believe Refs could let that happen
KLKRTR
March 10, 2011 at 01:19AM View BBCode
What happened in the game? (I obviously wasn't watching)
shawnwoods15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKw6jgZVONI
March 10, 2011 at 01:46AM View BBCode
Refs were so scared of deciding the game that they decided the game.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKw6jgZVONI
tm4559
you can always tell a bogus tar heel fan if they call it "UNC." do any of them call it that? if they do, they are strictly fakers.
(anybody who is a Dook [or Carolina] fan, that did not go to school there, or pay the tuition for a kid or kids to go? should be taken out and not brought back.)
March 10, 2011 at 05:41PM View BBCode
Originally posted by KLKRTR
....though of course, going to school with a bunch of UNC and Duke fans, it can be rough...
you can always tell a bogus tar heel fan if they call it "UNC." do any of them call it that? if they do, they are strictly fakers.
(anybody who is a Dook [or Carolina] fan, that did not go to school there, or pay the tuition for a kid or kids to go? should be taken out and not brought back.)
KLKRTR
No no, they all called them Carolina, but I just call them UNC (since I, fortunately, am not a fan of the baby blue).
March 10, 2011 at 10:51PM View BBCode
Originally posted by tm4559
Originally posted by KLKRTR
....though of course, going to school with a bunch of UNC and Duke fans, it can be rough...
you can always tell a bogus tar heel fan if they call it "UNC." do any of them call it that? if they do, they are strictly fakers.
(anybody who is a Dook [or Carolina] fan, that did not go to school there, or pay the tuition for a kid or kids to go? should be taken out and not brought back.)
No no, they all called them Carolina, but I just call them UNC (since I, fortunately, am not a fan of the baby blue).
tm4559
March 11, 2011 at 03:24PM View BBCode
i am from north carolina, but of course not a fan of the sh_t heels. they had themselves a good old time beating up on dook there the other night for the regular season crown. i mean, that was downright awesomes.
tworoosters
March 11, 2011 at 04:36PM View BBCode
Good God UCLA got killed by Oregon in the PAC 10 tourney. Can you say #9 seed ?
KLKRTR
March 12, 2011 at 11:00PM View BBCode
Whew....Florida was losing by 12 in the second half to Vanderbilt in the SEC Semis...something like 12 turnovers in the first half (2 for Vandy). We ended up winning by double digits for the second night in a row..
shawnwoods15
March 14, 2011 at 12:44AM View BBCode
Well Florida shouldn't have gotten a #2 seed but congrats on that, and on playing your 1st 2 games in Florida. I'm happy no #1 seeds were gift wrapped the final four like Duke was last year. It should be exciting.
barterer2002
March 14, 2011 at 04:00PM View BBCode
Well if you're going to say that, who would you have given the 2 to? Uconn or Syracuse? Certainly not BYU or Purdue. I'm not sure that UConn and/or Syracuse are more deserving of a 2 than Florida at this point. UConn did have a nice run in the Big East but really, they were the second tier in the conference most of the year (behind Pitt, ND, Louisville and Syracuse) and their run moved them from 6 to 3, I don't think a 2 would have been right for them. Syracuse is a maybe but I have no issues with Florida being ranked ahead of them. And certainly you're not going to rank Kentucky, Louisville, Wisconsin or Texas over Florida going into the tournament?
tworoosters
BYU is 28-3 and #5 overall in RPI rankings, I know the committee takes injuries and suspensions into account but they could still easily have received a #2 ahead of Florida.
Kentucky lost 8 games but are still ahead of Florida in RPI and waxed them in the conference tourney and were 2-1 versus Florida losing once by 2 and winning by 8 and 16 .
Florida were 4-3 against top 20 teams and were soundly beaten in two of those three losses . On the plus side for Florida is their #8 ranking in RPI and a solid #4 overall SOS .
Still given all the factors I think Florida are probably as deserving of a #2 as anyone and I've got no problem with it ..
March 14, 2011 at 04:48PM View formatted
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I think cases can easily be made for any number of teams to have had a #2 seed ahead of Florida but arguments can be made for Florida as well .
BYU is 28-3 and #5 overall in RPI rankings, I know the committee takes injuries and suspensions into account but they could still easily have received a #2 ahead of Florida.
Kentucky lost 8 games but are still ahead of Florida in RPI and waxed them in the conference tourney and were 2-1 versus Florida losing once by 2 and winning by 8 and 16 .
Florida were 4-3 against top 20 teams and were soundly beaten in two of those three losses . On the plus side for Florida is their #8 ranking in RPI and a solid #4 overall SOS .
Still given all the factors I think Florida are probably as deserving of a #2 as anyone and I've got no problem with it ..
shawnwoods15
March 14, 2011 at 09:49PM View BBCode
I'm just confused how Florida (I think ranked 12 at the time) got a 2 seed after losing to Kentucky (ranked 16 at the time) by 16 in the SEC championship, while Texas (ranked 10 at the time) got a 4 seed and lost to Kansas (ranked #2) by 12 in the Big 12 championship. I'm not saying I think Texas is a better team but it doesn't seem consistent.
tworoosters
Texas are 12th in RPI but have struggled down the stretch losing 4 of their last 8 whereas Florida are #8 in RPI and lost only twice after February 1st, both to Kentucky . I still think Texas deserved a #3 more than U Conn but the Huskies won the Big East or Purdue, who finished poorly, but Texas hasn't really looked great for the past month.
I think BYU probably deserved the #2 based o seasonal body of work but going 3-2 since the Brandon Davies suspension, and both losses blowouts, hurt them a lot.
March 14, 2011 at 10:09PM View BBCode
The selection committee has always placed a big premium on RPI and how a team has finished for seeding .Texas are 12th in RPI but have struggled down the stretch losing 4 of their last 8 whereas Florida are #8 in RPI and lost only twice after February 1st, both to Kentucky . I still think Texas deserved a #3 more than U Conn but the Huskies won the Big East or Purdue, who finished poorly, but Texas hasn't really looked great for the past month.
I think BYU probably deserved the #2 based o seasonal body of work but going 3-2 since the Brandon Davies suspension, and both losses blowouts, hurt them a lot.
shawnwoods15
March 15, 2011 at 12:54AM View BBCode
So BYU deserved the #2 seed because of their body of work, which consists of 2 top 25 wins since January 1 both against San Diego State and 2 blowout losses in the past 5 games. But Texas (by the way not a Texas fan) who has 5 top 25 wins since January 1 and who has gotten beat badly only by KU in the past few games doesn't? I guess I don't really care that much I'm just looking forward to another exciting March.
tworoosters
BYU are #5 overall in RPI, which the selection committee has consistently stated is their poll of choice.
BYU are 9-2 versus RPI top 50 and 12-4 vs. top 100, BYU actually had three wins versus top 25 teams since January 1st, UNLV on January 5th, but since January 1st was 2 1/2 months ago and, for most teams, less than the halfway mark in their season I'm not sure how that enters into "how a team finished".
Texas were #11 in RPI, 8-4 vs. top 50, 12-7 vs. top 100 and lost 4 games since Feb.19th, that would be one more than BYU lost all year . Two of those losses were to teams who are playing in the NIT.
I'm not a BYU fan, my allegiance is with UCLA as stated above, but when you are #5 overall in the most important poll to the committee and end up as, at best, 9th overall I think you have reason to be miffed.
March 15, 2011 at 02:41AM View BBCode
The thing about "seasonal body of work" is that applies to ...........the whole season.BYU are #5 overall in RPI, which the selection committee has consistently stated is their poll of choice.
BYU are 9-2 versus RPI top 50 and 12-4 vs. top 100, BYU actually had three wins versus top 25 teams since January 1st, UNLV on January 5th, but since January 1st was 2 1/2 months ago and, for most teams, less than the halfway mark in their season I'm not sure how that enters into "how a team finished".
Texas were #11 in RPI, 8-4 vs. top 50, 12-7 vs. top 100 and lost 4 games since Feb.19th, that would be one more than BYU lost all year . Two of those losses were to teams who are playing in the NIT.
I'm not a BYU fan, my allegiance is with UCLA as stated above, but when you are #5 overall in the most important poll to the committee and end up as, at best, 9th overall I think you have reason to be miffed.
KLKRTR
This tournament is pretty fun to watch though!
March 20, 2011 at 07:27PM View BBCode
Tworoosters, sorry about your UCLA game yesterday...This tournament is pretty fun to watch though!
tworoosters
With Pittsburgh out of the way the Gators could be looking at another final four but they better not start looking too far ahead or BYU will burn them, Jimmer and company looked pretty good yesterday against a solid Gonzaga squad.
March 20, 2011 at 10:06PM View BBCode
Can't say I'm surprised, the Bruin seem determined to try and win with sheer athleticism but 64% from the foul line and 42% from the field isn't going to beat a team like Florida.With Pittsburgh out of the way the Gators could be looking at another final four but they better not start looking too far ahead or BYU will burn them, Jimmer and company looked pretty good yesterday against a solid Gonzaga squad.
KLKRTR
March 20, 2011 at 10:38PM View BBCode
No way we look past BYU...we had 12 straight tournament wins before BYU beat us in 2 overtimes last season...but you're right..without Pitt, I like our chances for the Final Four a lot more..
folifan19
March 22, 2011 at 05:54PM View BBCode
I'm still trying to understand what the benefit of being "#1 over all seed" (OSU) is, when you have to play Kentucky, Carolina and Duke to get to the Final. Without doing the research, three programs that are probably in the top 5-10 all time in National Championships. I still say, no matter the sport, if you're the best, you'll win no matter who you play. But having easier opponents sure makes the path a lot easier. And yes, Buckeye fan...
KLKRTR
March 24, 2011 at 02:19AM View BBCode
I don't blame the Buckeyes fans for being surprised by what happened...Kansas and Pittsburgh both seemed like they had easier paths to travel..
dirtdevil
honestly, i don't see that historical titles have any relevance to seedings in a current tourney. i mean duke wasn't given a 1 seed because they won last year, they got it because of their play this year. kentucky is what, a 4 seed starting 6 freshmen? they don't have any connection to what rupp's teams did in the 50's.
March 24, 2011 at 05:35AM View BBCode
Originally posted by folifan19
I'm still trying to understand what the benefit of being "#1 over all seed" (OSU) is, when you have to play Kentucky, Carolina and Duke to get to the Final. Without doing the research, three programs that are probably in the top 5-10 all time in National Championships. I still say, no matter the sport, if you're the best, you'll win no matter who you play. But having easier opponents sure makes the path a lot easier. And yes, Buckeye fan...
honestly, i don't see that historical titles have any relevance to seedings in a current tourney. i mean duke wasn't given a 1 seed because they won last year, they got it because of their play this year. kentucky is what, a 4 seed starting 6 freshmen? they don't have any connection to what rupp's teams did in the 50's.
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